Flagship Episode with Sam Shinazzi and Dr Cameron Webb 25/6/24

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[00:01:09] And SharkCastPotterGmail.com will hit some of your letters later on More of a kind of mood this week which has been awesome So without any further to do I'm going to introduce my friend, my lifelong friend Mr Cameron Webb

[00:01:24] He is a Shark Season ticket holder, he's a member, he's a lifelong fan, he's a musician He's famously known for his sea-worthy work but if you came along in the 90s You might know him from 1224 as well

[00:01:36] He once ran a record label called Steadycam which released my first record So I'm forever in his debt and he is the most famous entomologist in the universe He's been on every TV show and radio program that will have him

[00:01:51] That is interested in mosquitoes every summer which is every show and every TV and radio show in summer In Australia of course, he is the husband to Annette, he's the father to Hannah and Hudson And his favorite member of Party of Five is Jennifer Love Hewitt

[00:02:08] Cam, welcome back to the show, it's been a while, how are you? Correct on all fronts, very good Sam, I was talking over the top of you there But yeah, no, it looked very good and that's very kind of introduction as always

[00:02:20] When are we going to start our Jennifer Love Hewitt podcast? When is that going to start? Because that should be pretty soon And that's yelling out in the background that she wants to join it as well She's heavily involved so she will be joining it

[00:02:36] And we've told that story before on the podcast, that'll come in the third hour of the podcast tonight But how are you going Cam? What's going on in the world of the most famous entomologist in the universe?

[00:02:46] Look it's pretty cold in Sydney and that means there aren't too many mosquitoes about But there's still plenty of reports to write but I was on the radio to ABC Darwin today Talking about head lice infestations ahead of the school holidays

[00:02:58] So in the winter I get the chance to, you know, talk all things buggy, that annoys us And bites us and stuff like that so bit of a quiet time in winter Time to concentrate on the footy

[00:03:11] Yeah, I've known you for a long time, I didn't know that that was part of the deal Look any sort of insect bite stings or generally annoys you Tends to fall into my scope of work even though mozzies are the main ones

[00:03:26] So any questions about anything that bites or stings Sam? I'm happy to give it a shot at trying to answer Well we're hoping that something that'll bite this week is the mighty chronal Sutherland sharks A team that you and I and all of our listeners worship

[00:03:40] We've won one of our last four cam And we're coming off a much needed buy our second buy one more to come in about a month Let me ask you a question because I've completely forgotten were you at the Dolphins game on a Thursday night a while back?

[00:03:56] Yeah, sure was unfortunately Unfortunately primarily because they seem to let a bunch of Dolphins fans into the Monty Porter stand which we weren't very appreciative of Yeah, it wasn't a fun game to have to watch at home plus have some lippy Dolphins fans kind of in the stand

[00:04:13] So that was a bit annoying security when answering my calls to get them evicted it but yeah it was a frustrating game And even you know, it's sort of the story of the season in a way slow start

[00:04:26] And then even what would otherwise be a pretty exciting end to the game I don't think ever I guess we were all a bit worried about that final kick But yeah just frustrating overall but some good to see them fight back but disappointing start of course

[00:04:39] Yeah, I mean it came down to that kick that the hammer took on his own line and we just defended it really poorly from the start to the finish of that whole play

[00:04:46] And that was a turning point because as you say they came back into the game shed a lot of heart a lot of grit

[00:04:51] They definitely had the upper hand and as I've said on the pot a few times even after that try they kind of played better than the Dolphins

[00:04:59] So if we can eliminate those poor starts will definitely be on our way but disappointing to hear you had some lippy Dolphins What were they doing the whole fins up thing or something?

[00:05:10] Yeah a little bit of that and then just a bit too lippy overall but yeah I mean I guess we've talked in the podcast previously about that horrible experience at Magic Ground against the Dolphins

[00:05:22] And so the only thing worse than the sharks performance on that night was the fact there were people sitting around us at Suncorp in all number of different footy jerseys all getting up and doing the fins up rubbish

[00:05:36] And so you know that's all very annoying but you know the thing that apart from the loss of course but the annoying thing is which is going to great for the rest of the year

[00:05:46] Is of course we're going to have to watch the sharks falling off the Hamas or the Triad the season in all of the highlight reels now for the rest of the season and probably in the preseason going into 2025 So that's as frustrating as anything

[00:06:00] It's amazing you say that because today my work had the town hall you know the gathering and they do the presentations and how we're going and they show videos it's Fox Sports a lot of sporty stuff

[00:06:11] They showed highlights of the NREL so far Lara Pitt was hosting and for some unknown reason they showed the Hammers try and then Lara was doing commentary over it pretty much And I was like I just can't escape this so you're right it's there forever

[00:06:27] Yeah it's going to haunt us and hope it doesn't sort of haunt us out of a top four position but I mean I don't want to hear to talk about the Dolphins game

[00:06:37] But you know credit where it's due I mean they played a fairly solid game like it wasn't you know so they did play well we played badly at times credit where it's due to the Dolphins for part of that game

[00:06:49] Oh for sure there's some of those guys in my favorite players I love watching a psycho player for example but we let them win like the opening 20 was just so soft and those tries were so soft that's where they won it

[00:07:00] And as good and solid as they were Cam like they weren't doing anything to flash aside from that amazing try so that was disappointing And you're right I hope it doesn't come back to haunt us

[00:07:11] The funny thing is we've only lost four games all year it's a pretty good record and I think because we have such high expectations each loss does sting

[00:07:20] And each loss we kind of have a reason you got the West Tigers game well they were more up for it's like blablabla we had Panthers game

[00:07:29] I don't really know what to say there but they just smashed us the Dolphins game we started slow and what was the other game we lost Cam do you remember

[00:07:37] We lost the Eels when they had their couple of so called Superstars back so yeah I mean the frustrating thing is Sam is that two of those teams are now sitting tired on the bottom of the table

[00:07:49] You know and we played poorly in those games so as good as you could argue that those two you know we'll put Panthers to the side for the moment but for the Tigers and the Eels yeah sure they're up for the game they're playing at home

[00:08:04] But their games we should not have lost we should have been two points clear at the top of the table now and so I think that's where the frustration lies and it's both a curse and a blessing the success we've had so far this year because

[00:08:17] those poor performances sting so much more because we know what the team is capable of and you you know you even you think about it's hard to believe it's the same season that we've got games like the Broncos and Storm and Roosters and then Eels and Tigers in the mix as well

[00:08:34] Yeah yeah and the champion teams definitely do not lose those games so definitely take your point I agree with you what's been your favorite game so far this year I know it's been a rollercoaster ride and I'm putting in the spot

[00:08:47] I think mine is probably the it's hard to split between Melbourne and the Roosters I'll probably go the Roosters though because it was just such a high scoring kind of exciting match but what's been the whole of you

[00:08:59] Yeah I think that Roosters win I mean it's hard to go past the talak I try against the Storm as kind of spectacular moment in the whole season but I think I think it was a game against the Roosters game was pretty good and a good

[00:09:13] Yeah I remember the game on Adrian who listens to the podcast he was up there and said it was kind of pretty much the best atmosphere second to the grand final in terms of kind of being there and the atmosphere so you know that came across on the tele

[00:09:27] It's just unfortunate Sam that I've managed to get to all four of our losses this season so in terms of games I've witnessed in person the strike rate is not going quite as good as it could be

[00:09:39] Yeah I know I'm not sure I don't want to take I can take personal responsibility for those losses and especially I guess when you think about it the best performance as I was absent from so I don't want to rip up my I don't want to rip up my Sharks membership just yet but yeah hope things turn around pretty soon we're making the trip up to

[00:09:59] coughs so hopefully that's a things turn around

[00:10:05] Yeah I think they will I think the buy came in a really great time Cam I mentioned on the pod during the week that I was at yesterday's training session and they really amped and up for it they look really great

[00:10:16] I was a little bit shocked at how physical the training was on this day and they're really going for it so it was good to see and I think mentally they've just all enjoyed the break and when I say that I don't know when I listen to freak out and think they've all gone to Bali or whatever

[00:10:32] they've needed that time to shut off for four or five days they're back and they're ripping and tearing I can assure you that and it's going to be a good game against the dogs we'll talk about that a little bit later on Cam tell me about who's been some of your standout players and for what reasons

[00:10:52] Tom Hazleton for me I mean it's great to have him come back you know after his introduction last year I think he's come back and he's played really strongly he's looked I think he's looked a little bit tired the last couple of weeks and bit

[00:11:04] I think he's looked at the time but his start to the season has been fantastic I think I liked I mean I think that across the board generally speaking everyone's had a pretty solid pretty consistent season I think wills been fantastic I know that he's a point of discussion but I think he's been pretty good

[00:11:24] and I guess I really like seeing Dan Atkinson get his chance as well and kind of I think he's really great to see him play well in the opportunity that he's had.

[00:11:36] Yeah yeah I mean that game against Melbourne will be folklore forever more that was just remarkable it was a 10 out of 10 performance and it's not often you can say that about most players little on a kid playing his sixth NRL game or whatever it was

[00:11:50] against one of the great teams that's ever been or great clubs at the very least and with so much in the line that was a standout performance he's been pretty good in most games he's played

[00:12:00] at the training session he was training really hard and he was goal kicking and he's very much in the mix should something should he be needed so there's a bit of depth there Cam which I'm pretty excited by like

[00:12:13] Jesse Colhoun's pretty close Dan Atkinson's there Billy Burns who is solid as a first grader tearing up New South Wales Cup and I think he's brought a different attitude to Crunella from St George

[00:12:28] he's risen with the cream of the crop and I think that he'll get some games when needed as well and even some of the kids that I saw training at the full back I believe it's pronounced

[00:12:40] Isohn he's young and he's small but he's talented and Newtown Jets fans know him pretty well now and there's just some depth there should something go go astray with all these players

[00:12:53] guy like Kay Dykes is still fighting some injuries but he's in and amongst it he's not quite ready to be selected but there is a lot of depth there should they need it hopefully I don't obviously our key 20 guys are the guys you want to use

[00:13:06] and I know we need her righty who we've seen play some great games for us he's just not not getting a shot because especially the back five are all pretty solid so sometimes we sometimes forget about Jesse Colhoun this season because he got injured so early

[00:13:20] but he was probably one of the players that I was most excited about seeing playing first grade pre-regulate this season I've got big wraps on him I think he's fantastic and yeah I really hope he gets a chance over the coming weeks or at least some time this season because

[00:13:36] yeah I was really excited he was the player I sort of most looking forward to seeing playing this year so yeah fingers crossed he gets a chance as long you know one way or the other yeah wait till you see him Cam he's lost a few kilograms he looks

[00:13:51] I guess more muscular maybe he just looks really really fit and looks like he's grown I don't know what I'm saying here he just looks he looks really really good he looks to me I don't want to use the word remarkably but he looks quite different to the one I last saw him

[00:14:09] four months ago whatever it was some solid time for the Jets and he's he's named I think 18th or 19th man this week for us he's getting closer I know the coach absolutely loves him so he'll get his time when time allows when he's ready but yeah he's got a big future if you can stay injury free

[00:14:27] he's got a big future I do want to give a shout out to our friend Max Bradbury who has gone through another ACL operation young prop who we got from Newcastle a few years ago

[00:14:37] he's in good spirits he's doing fine but he had to have a I think it was his third ACL so definitely gone for the season off contract not sure if they'll resign him hopefully they do because he's a good young prospect but yeah just there's so many there's so much more of a story to the

[00:14:55] to the Cornell sharks than just the 17 18 guys we see run out every week and it's hard to kind of cover them I guess from a club point of view from a podcast point of view from any kind of media point of view they don't get much airtime but

[00:15:06] they're all they're all down there contributing they're all ripping in tearing hard and following the coach's instructions pretty healthy club cam I know people take the losses badly and I understand that but

[00:15:17] I think at the moment we're traveling pretty good and even to the personnel like I'm not saying that they all have to be nice guys and that kind of thing because you know maybe nice guys don't win your comps I don't know but most of them that I've come in contact with

[00:15:30] and you know you're in the same position can where you meet a lot of these guys when you go to the games and you go to the functions and everything like they're just pretty polite young dudes and I interviewed Talakai which everyone can go listen to I interviewed him yesterday

[00:15:45] and I'd forgotten how in his own way how well spoken he was like he's just a really deep thinker and something he said that that really stuck with me when he was talking about I said to him you're in the huddle you would lead in the huddle

[00:15:57] and he said to me we've worked so hard and he said it kind of in that quiet under his breath kind of way as we've worked so hard.

[00:16:05] I knew exactly what he meant you work hard from November through to now and everyone's saying you can't beat that team you know when it comes to the big games you guys choke all this sort of stuff and I think they they really enjoyed those three winds the Broncos storm and roosters in particular

[00:16:23] just to sort of give it back to everyone who was given it to them because they hear it they hear everything and that's something that stuck in me Talakai though like and it reminded me that even these big men looking dudes they carrying themselves this way and I think a lot of it is to do with the coach.

[00:16:40] Yeah, I'm not saying that they were not like that before because they were but when the coach came in it was like his way or get out of here pretty much.

[00:16:50] Yeah and I think that we've seen that now for what is it three seasons now and I really liked that interview with Talakai that was up on the podcast this week.

[00:17:00] He's very quiet he's very thoughtful and it was was interesting to see that perspective just the emphasis continually on the sort of the mental strength of the players and what they do what they trying to leave behind the other things in their life when they kind of walk into the the sheds on game day.

[00:17:20] It was really fantastic to hear him speak to that because I guess sometimes that sort of mental toughness is often a topic of conversation but it's not as apparent as the physical conflict out on the field and and I think that it was really fascinating to hear both him

[00:17:36] and also Ronnie to a certain extent in the interviews this week as well talk about that. Yeah, yeah, but they were very generous with that with their thoughts that's for sure. How do you think the coach is going Cam?

[00:17:47] Oh, I think it's pretty tough to be too critical.

[00:17:49] I think you know how much it's the coach's fault that well I guess you could argue that coming out slow at games someone's got to take responsibility for that whether that's the coach or not I don't know but I don't have any huge criticisms of the coach and the decisions necessarily this season.

[00:18:05] I think you know at the end of the day, Sam what's the biggest chat what's the biggest problem the biggest controversial or biggest sort of decision is made is bringing Eero into the team and shifting Cifra around and I guess nobody's really questioning that now.

[00:18:19] You know this time last year we were talking about you know where Talakai was playing but you know I think Eero has been playing pretty well so I think on balance I mean I don't think there's any concern or any criticisms that I have really for the

[00:18:35] coach a few quibbles on game day selections I suppose but you know at the end of the day what are we some more place to complain about that.

[00:18:44] You're slightly more proud New South at Welshman than I am. How are you going with our region and all that kind of thing? Are you cool?

[00:18:51] Yeah not necessarily I was at the game I was at game one and that was probably it was incredibly disappointing game and I guess that you know if we don't need to rehash it but the blues did come back being a man down

[00:19:06] and they're always going to get overrun there's no question about that. It'll be interesting to see this week you know I don't want to say that I'm not interested because I'm hopeful that we'll get a result

[00:19:17] but yeah let's see it sort of does feel like the wind has been almost taken out of the series in the first five minutes of game one sort of in a way disappointed for Camerginas disappointed for Nico I mean I think you know I think there's two sides of this sort of story or your opinion on this one is that

[00:19:37] you don't want to be playing origin and getting either physically or emotionally damaged by the result but at the same time perfect result in all of this is that he had gone off to origin wins a series plays well uninjured comes back on fire to the sharks

[00:19:53] and so that hasn't happened and so we'll hopefully have a good rest I know he's come out in the media and spoken about how he's keen to sort of focus all his attention on the sharks for the rest of the season now so I think we can throw a weight behind him and yeah hopefully the

[00:20:11] the conferences there and the performances are yeah yeah I think you'll be fine I think having that time off with the buyer was just perfect timing so from what I saw at him at training was he was pretty good to go as well so

[00:20:24] I'm disappointed for both of them I think Camerkinas absolutely should be there I'm not saying Nico shouldn't but I know there's some circumstances there where other guys who were originally selected a fit and that kind of thing so yeah see what happens there

[00:20:38] I mean they might get called up for game three just never know what's going to happen in this funny old world so Sam on that I know this isn't an origin podcast but I suppose if Moses goes down injured is Nico back in the back in the frame again or is

[00:20:55] like Cleary back potentially a heroic return for game three I've been keeping track of Panthers injuries recoveries and things like that I don't think my stomach can handle that storyline if that's the case for starters yeah but he's not back in the next couple of weeks I don't think so he might

[00:21:14] I think we might escape that Cleary storyline I think it is week to week but I think Brandy was saying at least a week or two did they go back to Nico well if Nico's playing really good footy for the sharks they might they might do that what you got there though is a game three

[00:21:31] decision in Brisbane so yeah I don't know if we want our young man to cross that bridge on me but cross across that bridge like you say if he goes up there and wins game three in Brisbane well he's the best half back in the world all of a sudden so boy oh boy

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[00:22:37] Alright Cam let's talk some news and this one is the biggest piece of news all year something very dear to you and all of our listeners and myself as well

[00:22:47] that is the release of the iconic 1995 home strip the sharks retro jersey is back and it's selling like hotcakes mostly from Sharkcast hosts ordering 20 at a time what are your thoughts on the jersey they get it right what are you thinking

[00:23:06] It looks fantastic I should as a disclaimer my favorite jersey is a clean away sponsorship yeah old school yeah sharks Jersey that's my kind of pinnacle it looks great you know I think they've done a great design of it and

[00:23:20] I'm looking I don't want to spoil any Christmas treats but I think that some of the shark cast pod contributors might have guaranteed all of their friends and family are receiving one of these for Father's Day if not Christmas coming up soon based on the excitement amongst some of our colleagues

[00:23:36] Look it looks great yeah looks great and you'll be fantastic the next home game to see how many of those are floating around so yeah the whole heritage series of jerseys and retro series of jerseys whatever they're technically called a fantastic

[00:23:52] So I guess Sam the one thing I the one bit of news though I have missed is will we be playing in this strip and when's that round has that been decided yeah yeah it's been decided and I believe it is technically the next

[00:24:05] Shark Park game which is against West Tigers in three or four weeks whenever that is I believe that's the that's the night it's already in stock and being sent out so I think there's a few a few questions about would it be there on time but it's definitely there on time which is great

[00:24:21] and I think it's going to be a bit like do you remember cam the first game of the year going back a while now where they'd send your members hat and everyone would wear the members hat looking game one and they'd be like 4000 members hats

[00:24:37] I think the West Tigers game is going to be like 4000 retro jerseys which is incredible I think that's going to be fantastic yeah yeah that's good locker way great work sharks there is a lot of pressure on the team to win in this jersey

[00:24:51] there's a lot of pressure to win the next home game Sam in any jersey yeah yeah there is there is I mean we'll talk about the run maybe but I mean if you saw West Tigers in the weekend a lot of energy there's no easy games in the NRL I reckon Sam isn't that saying probably as true this year as it's ever been and I think

[00:25:15] look at what we got coming up cam we've got bulldogs Titans Tigers woohoo party let's go six points that's changed in the last week yeah so you're right yeah I don't think there are any easy ones so that's not a problem we're here to play so it's all good

[00:25:31] what are your thoughts on Las Vegas Nevada as in Cronella going to play there you excited yeah it's pretty I am pretty excited I think it's pretty positive of not long come back from a couple of weeks in North America some time in California and New York

[00:25:49] and so whether or not I head back or not I guess is a question for the the household executive I think it's a fantastic opportunity not to pass up and I suppose important thing for the sharks and the sharks brand I suppose is that you know we don't really know how long this Vegas experiment will continue for

[00:26:13] and so if there's an opportunity for us to go next year when there's you know there's a lot of excitement about a lot of interest still remaining in it I think that can only be positive for the sharks so I'm yeah I think it's really excited and certainly yeah if I can getting over there would be fantastic

[00:26:31] we might be able to get some deals happening and sort of do a shot cast tour and you can be part of that camp and

[00:26:38] a couple of live podcasts over there Sam I think is compulsory and I think as your as our fearless leader you know you should be have your bags packed already and then let's see how we can backfill the guests lots

[00:26:51] I'm gonna show you cam the bag is packed earlier this week I was unpacking it and I don't mean I was I meant the club was unpacking it but now we're we're back packing so I would say that next week sometime stay tuned to your media sources because

[00:27:08] I just never know when something will be announced but I did here as late as today when we're recording which is Tuesday that things are back on track it was a bit touch and go then nothing dramatic nothing went out nothing to with us just it was ever changing like I kept telling everyone

[00:27:27] I've had for a little while it kind of changed but we're back bag is packed it's gonna be a fun time once it's confirmed so watch this space and then yes there will be some shark casts activity over there we'll work all that out as we go along great for the club though you never know what sponsors are gonna come out of it just expanding on the brand right so you want your brand to be worldwide we are worldwide we've got fans all over

[00:27:55] so as long as they can make the trip not too costly and flip it and try and get something out of it I think it'll be a trip well done before we get there though our Vegas is new town basically and new town shark jets for the second time defeated the pender with Panthers in a close game Sam Stone Street with a winning try out at pender with last weekend

[00:28:19] New Towns won seven of the past eight now cam and a bit of a roll yeah and having having seen a bunch of them trained on the week this week I can see why like they're in it they're in a good place so they're playing at Wentworth Park against the roosters on Saturday cam I completely forgot that in the history of rugby league Wentworth Park used to be a thing like I mean before our time before imagine most people listening on to the show can't say it run but

[00:28:47] yeah like it used to be a venue if you want to get nostalgic and go back and watch some footage there's some there on the weekend I think there's a few New South Wales Cup games also our Jersey flick sharks are gonna be out there playing against the roosters in the morning

[00:29:01] and they lost the Panthers last week unfortunately they're sitting in 12th place but they've still got a game in hand due to a washout earlier in the year speaking of Nico Heinz he has been nominated for the Ken Stevens medal and that's the award which acknowledges positive contributions players make in the local community

[00:29:25] and in particular Nico is very strong on mental health and indigenous causes and well-being so another tick for Nico I mean whatever they're paying him you can debate what he's doing on the field some will I'm not going to at the moment I'm fine with Nico but yeah he's just such an asset to the club cam

[00:29:46] yeah there's no question about that I mean I think you know he's such an asset to the sharks and the sharks community and both on and off the field you know there's obviously everyone's going to critique their star players performance if we're not winning games but there's really

[00:30:06] no criticisms that you can level to him these the ways conducted himself in the community and I'm all in on the Nico train so the Prince of Caringbar has a very welcome home at the sharks for a very long time and yeah great that he's sort of acknowledged as well in the broader

[00:30:27] community for those efforts as well so congratulations to Nico and also to all those other players that we you know we talk about this a lot Sam about you know so many of those players not just the sharks but for other NRL clubs they actually do some pretty good work in the community that often goes unnoticed by our media I guess but very much noticed by the community and so I think that it's always good to remind ourselves that you know even for some of those players

[00:30:54] and clubs we hate with the passion they are kind of making good contributions to the local community so yeah well done to the efforts that they do too.

[00:31:04] Yeah I was having a conversation with someone today at school pick up of places about similar topic and how at this point in time it's never been stronger and the players have never been more aware of that guest responsibility chosen responsibility they have to help those less

[00:31:23] fortunate etc it's always been a thing in rugby league and in sport as well but rugby league has always been one of those sports that's given back but I do think now with just the education and just where we're at in the world and the kids coming through we're just so smart they're really willing to keep up their spare time to do this sort of thing

[00:31:42] so Nico's been recognized there I believe you can vote the public can vote for one week camp for one week you can go on NRL website and vote for him and then I think they just tally up the votes each week or something someone different each week and then something else happens as a public vote as a private vote.

[00:32:00] I guess the point is it's recognition it's not about who wins it he's been recognized if you wins it it's a bonus so well done Nico.

[00:32:07] Now before we get to the letters cam let's talk about our friends down at the RM Y CPH which is the Royal Modyo club in Port Hacking they have a new eatery down there a restaurant called the galley and it's cool I even tasted the food myself a few weeks ago before the paramata loss so it took it took the sadness out of that loss because my belly was full of such great

[00:32:29] food from the Royal Modyo club in Port Hacking you can get members discounts if you're a member if you're not you can just get pretty affordable food down there it's fancy it's lovely you can book online at RMYCPH.com.au

[00:32:45] you can use a membership app you can call them on 95239300 we do have to tell you we do this every every time we talk about them there's no more free garlic bread but that's just the thing it's not a bad thing unless you really want it it's not a bad thing from them or us just one of those things that has subsided over time they still sponsor us they still love us we love them there's

[00:33:07] just no garlic bread involved so get down there and check it out great place to watch footy and we are trying to work out a bit of a gathering there ourselves cam so we'll keep everyone tuned on that as we move forward in the next month but we do have lots of not lots we've got some a good solid amount of letters we're not going to be here for hours like last week but some great male

[00:33:29] cam to get to and they people have been in touch with us sharkhousepoddergmail.com have been on the socials DMing us thankfully and of course we're going to go first with an OG his name is RCB he's obsessed with Shark Park he's obsessed with crowds and he's obsessed with the black white and blue and that's why he's so well respected in this community

[00:33:51] and referring to the Dolphins game cam he says 8000 is a poor crowd this is a trend since Thursdays became a thing this is mostly on the people in the post codes of 2234 2226 2229 2232 and 2233 now rewind and slow that down you can google what post codes are if you don't know I know most of those ones

[00:34:15] he said on Thursday night in the shower we've drawn an average of just over 9000 people he says we got 7000 on a Thursday night to the grand final rematch we have a crowd capacity but it's actually even less because of season ticket holders and people's inability to resell them on game days up to an hour before the event

[00:34:35] he's focused on that that's all factual I believe all of his numbers are true cam the grand final rematch on a Thursday night I remember being there remember the game was that opening round do you remember or not 2017 probably not right

[00:34:50] no because the opening game on 2017 was the game that we played against the Broncos

[00:34:57] that's what I'm thinking of but they weren't they wasn't the grand final okay gotcha gotcha okay he's not happy this is only going to make sense if you listen to the episode with Jardian last week or whatever it was

[00:35:08] he had this great analogy about a ship and I'm not going to do it justice now so I'm not going to try except to say that is a ship the same if you take all the pieces out and put new pieces in is it the same ship

[00:35:22] RCB says it's still the same ship but it's a great question and he says is this the biggest issue facing the club moving forward regarding shark park

[00:35:33] he says 100% he says are there significant logistical hindrances that no other club faces 100% he said there's no denying putting two buildings where people used to stand and were full of voice on the hill has killed the vibe on one side of the field

[00:35:49] having a piece of the hill blocked for corporates is not great all these are changes and they're all for the worse will this slightly improve when everything's ready maybe to be seen

[00:36:01] he then finishes by saying should we put in temporary seating on either side of the ET stand and in front of the hotel he says yes and he finishes with I am not a crackpot

[00:36:11] so whether you think RCB is a crackpot or not I'd love that you know right in to us what you think about RCB is he a crackpot or not he's our crackpot and he makes some sense here I mean he and I don't always see eye to eye about shark park but I respect everything he says

[00:36:27] I listen to everything he says and some he's got some great points Cam how do we get more people there on a Thursday what's the deal with that

[00:36:33] it's a bit of a challenge I look for that dolphins game I was actually quite shocked I kept thinking oh people are going to flood in at last minute surely and it was probably the flattest atmosphere to start a game for a long time that I've been at at Shark Park

[00:36:49] it was like the crowd really seemed very thin and disinterested I mean we know so I sit in the Monty Porter with Hannah we sit in the Monty Porter stand and it's always a good gauge of basically how much grass you can see in that mini hill in front of the Monty Porter

[00:37:07] because normally it's by game games completely packed but there was plenty of open space at the start of that game now I don't know whether I don't know whether it's a Thursday night late game maybe there's a whole bunch of families that don't come because it's a bit you know it's a school night

[00:37:25] yeah it's hard to get the kids home unless you live locally and even if you do by the time you get out of Shark Park and home it's a bit of a late night so maybe the Thursday nights are a bit of a barrier for the younger kids to come across

[00:37:38] and they bring a fair bit of atmosphere to the ground as well I mean for me I find that the six o'clock Friday night games are the toughest to try to get to trying to get across town in peak hour traffic so they're actually for me one of the worst to get to

[00:37:52] but you know what Sam I don't know I mean it's I think the biggest challenge at the moment is that not only are we capped in our attendance but the issue that RCB highlights is that you know even in games where we're sold out on the front door

[00:38:09] but there's big gaps in the crowd and the seat both the seats and areas of the hill like it's really hard to look around and not think surely you can fit in another 2,000 people here at least you know and that's not disregarding all of the safety requirements but it's it is a little bit frustrating to see so much open space even when it's a technical sellout game

[00:38:34] Yeah and RCB was talking in the email as well which I didn't really mention about the comparison to sort of American sports how there's a lot of season ticket holders and they kind of just sell their tickets just to make money basically they'll buy because they're so in high demand they'll buy them sell them for twice as much make their money that way

[00:38:51] but I guess my point on that is when you buy an American ticket it's usually done in the week before in the month before sometimes before the season you circle it I'm going to be that game I need a ticket I'm coming from the state coming from overseas with Shark Park and the NRL it's not quite as in demand I mean

[00:39:13] Shark Park seats are in demand but I think people leave it so late either to try and get them or to offload them that it just sort of like is a miracle if you can sell them or give them away whatever it is you're doing with them your neighbors whatever it is

[00:39:28] So sometimes I think they just kind of go to waste because people haven't got fair act together or I don't know maybe we need an easier way to kind of buy them I'm not suggesting that I have all the answers or even one answer I just we're just having a chat but it is interesting the whole it's a sellout and you look around there's like 400 seats or whatever

[00:39:48] Yeah and the thing the problem is Sam is that you know the comparisons to US sport or sport in the UK and the Premier League or something like that there's a whole bunch of people desperate to go to these games that will just not be able to go like it's not going to happen at Shark Park so if I go to sell

[00:40:05] If we get to sell out two tickets in the Monty Porter you know a day before the game there's probably not likely to be that many people who are looking for the you know I mean the exception could be on a if it's been a great weekend sharks are playing on a Sunday afternoon it's been a great weekend

[00:40:21] Yeah Sunday's looking fantastic people think that's okay they can then have an impromptu kind of decision to be a great game great day to go to the footy and then maybe yeah then there's opportunities to pick up tickets

[00:40:35] But you know a few years ago before we had our ticketed membership which was that first season back at Shark Park we were ordering tickets almost as soon as they came online and we never got there were never sort of seats available or very rarely outside of the concourse area around the ground

[00:40:54] And so I think for us a lot of the time we sort of thought well why are we going to buy a ticket now when we can just get a GA and you know if it's not much for actually for probably much cheaper and we know they're probably going to get a better place to stand to watch the game than the seats that were available

[00:41:12] I'm not like you I'm not sure what the solution here is but I guess that one of the option one of the ways to get people to come to the game is to improve the facilities and I've got absolutely no doubt that once the club opens there's going to be a pretty big shift in you know in terms of crowd attendance irrespective of whether anything has been done to the toilets or not or the big keys are short.

[00:41:42] Is there a chance though that the majority of people who will use that club will stay in the club or you think they're going to come over and come to the game.

[00:41:50] I think I guess at the end of the day it comes down to the sharks performances doesn't it so if we're playing well and winning games people are going to come out to the club but also it's not about the people who are wanting to go to the club before the game and not necessarily come to the game I mean I think that they're contributing to the atmosphere anyway

[00:42:11] and I think that more people will come to the game to watch the game and then know that they can hang around a little bit and celebrate or commiserate whatever the results can be and it's I don't know whether you've kind of sort of looked at this but I look at those stairs that are now visible between.

[00:42:29] Yeah it's all I see the on the eastern side going straight up into the club after the game and I don't know whether that means that after the end of the game those doors open and we all kind of pile up and flood in or whether it's just the.

[00:42:41] I'm romanticizing the fire escape stairs. Well I think it's somewhere in the middle maybe yeah. Yeah but it's going to be great to be able to go back to the club there's no question about that you're saying that once the club.

[00:42:56] Least of opens you think attendance will rise.

[00:43:00] Yeah I think so because we we are on the reason for that is that it's a night out it's more of a night out you know if at the moment you go to Shark Park and the game is the yeah it's the it's the cake it's the icing it's everything you know it's the the whole thing but there's going to be a lot of people who want to come to the game when they know that they can kick on into the club and that

[00:43:23] kicking on might mean you know late into the night or it might mean getting something to eat yeah before they go home when the traffic's not so bad yeah and I think that thinking about the future where the game is just part of the night hour.

[00:43:38] I think that that probably will help bring people into the mix as well. All right very well said camp. Blake has written to us he said I think it's our best option at number seven.

[00:43:49] I'm not a massive Heinz fan but also don't think he warrants as much criticism as he's been getting. I just think Trindle is a better organizer and kicker than Heinz. His kicking game is top half of the league probably closer to top five if you ask me.

[00:44:04] Nico would be comfortably bottom half. He has a better running game.

[00:44:10] I will say Nico is ball playing his elite and I wonder if putting him at six would alleviate some of the pressure he feels it feels like sometimes he thinks the game is resting on his shoulders and that usually happens with a seven.

[00:44:23] But I think he'd flourish at six so we're talking about a switch there of numbers and I guess roles somewhat what do you thoughts there camp.

[00:44:32] Yeah look I actually agree that I think the Trindle's kicking game is generally more there's more variety that he seems to show and I think that in the games where he's taken a bit of a lead in some of the kicking I think that his kicking is probably more strategic at times than what

[00:44:52] Nico's can be.

[00:44:54] I think that when it comes to that idea about pressure that Nico feels I don't think Nico is feeling pressure whether he's playing six or seven I think Nico is feeling the pressure because he knows that he's the the leader of the team the superstar player of the team and that's

[00:45:13] I think that's the game the pressure I think not not the position he's playing but having said that I mean Nico can pull out some pretty amazing kicks as well and so I think I don't have a strong feeling about who should play where but I do have a strong feeling that we're a better team when tricky

[00:45:30] and Nico are both sharing the kicking duties which probably helps share the load across the both of them.

[00:45:36] I like both of what what Blake has said and what you've said I'm also in the boat of not rocking it too much if it doesn't need to be fixed so I think that if we're top four all year.

[00:45:53] I don't really want to be switching the spine up too much I think if that cracks and if we're struggling big time if the players are struggling big time.

[00:46:02] I look into it I mean at times they do play more traditional side by side and therefore Trindle being the seven Nico being the six can work in what Blake saying but a lot of the time they're either side of the field and there's no real difference so.

[00:46:19] We'll see what happens as the weeks go on but appreciate you running in Blake now Stephen says I love the random shark of the week segment and that appears on our Monday morning show with Kieran I basically just test his very skilled knowledge of random sharks.

[00:46:39] He's thrown someone at me who I'm not going to mention because Kieran's listening to this and I don't want to mention the person who's I'd be idea of the player who it is but he says go sharkies and.

[00:46:49] Appreciate that praise for the segment Stephen Corey wrote in last week came about defense he's a former defensive coach and he mentioned his uncle was a former player.

[00:47:00] And I replied to him and said who is that he replied this week and I thought I'd let everyone know that his uncle. Is Ken Madison and Ken Madison not only played in the 73 grand final he was the 1973 Rothmans medal winner which for younger listeners is the.

[00:47:16] I guess equivalent or the other version of what the Dali Amal Ward was almost 181st grade games mostly with the dragons then came to the sharkies once the sharkies were a thing which is great so definitely legend of the club.

[00:47:29] Ken Madison that's from Corey Brendan says just on Jadians comments I think and listen to this I think when the club reopens it'll turn around the atmosphere.

[00:47:40] So that's more of your thinking can which is great he's coming up for the Tigers game I can't remember where Brendan's from but he's from somewhere far away a swamp land far away cam.

[00:47:49] He's looking forward to the shock yeah he's looking forward to it maybe you can show him some of the swamps in the mosquito and everything that's happening what's it called the mangrove.

[00:47:58] So when you when you walk from the brewery which we're not sponsored by but I'm just going to mention it the Harry man brewery and if they want to sponsor us they can and if anyone wants to sponsor us they can.

[00:48:09] But when you walk from the brewery to the ground cam or for anyone who hasn't done it and most of you probably have or some of you have. You pretty much at one point hit the mangrove.

[00:48:23] And you know very well the path and there's like a little bridge and I always think of you when I go over that. Yeah thanks as long as they're not getting bitten by the mosquitoes but if you're.

[00:48:34] Spotting some birds and seeing the mangroves is a pretty nice place I mean I guess I'm putting on my environmental conservation kind of had I guess I'm you know the wetlands around Shark Park actually pretty good so yeah.

[00:48:48] It's been a sunny winters afternoon if you're down there early before a day and have a look around always something interesting to see particularly out towards the big wetlands as well so yeah.

[00:49:00] So when you hear people criticize Shark Park and say it's built on a swamp that actually excites you. It's pretty good although I wish we didn't build so many things on the swamp in the past and destroy them but but I can I can tick that box of.

[00:49:16] Siding the local wetlands as well as the footy so that's yeah that's good Sam. All right Christie has written in said the treatment of Niko has been way over the top I think he's handled it very well can you give any insight into how he's doing.

[00:49:28] I've only I've seen him train this week and he looks as good as ever I briefly spoke to him he seemed fine and I'm not for me to judge on anymore than that but he seemed fine.

[00:49:40] I think as I said before the week off stun him well he did one interview with Dave Ricchio and he said some really great things like I can't wait to rip in a training and get the sharks back on track.

[00:49:51] Get us to the finals looking forward to that campaign that we're trying to get to the grand final and win the grand final so I think Christie is doing fine to be honest he's a pretty strong minor guy.

[00:50:03] I've no doubt that it affected him the all the media onslaught and that kind of thing but I think he's put it past him now it's been a few weeks and I really don't think he's going to hang on to it and I think probably the best thing is that I guess the second best thing for him not playing origin is to not play origin and get the heck away from him.

[00:50:20] I guess he's going to get away from it all and just be a club man and and you know if he wins the title with us then he'll forever be a legend so it's there for him to grab not that he's not a legend already but you know what I'm saying there.

[00:50:31] Can I can't map the game I imagine you might have heard a few tense things said about our man.

[00:50:37] I guess there's grumbling or grumbling all the time with player performances you know not that it happened against the dolphins but when was that against the Panthers with the kicks out on the full obviously you know that stuff like that is going to elicit a groan from the crowd.

[00:50:53] I mean there's fresh there's going to be frustrations among the crowd for any player who makes a mistake.

[00:50:59] We're building up momentum or we're giving it away I mean Ronnie you know the mistakes of Ronnie again in that game and poor old Jack and you know so Niko is not singled out in any way you know it's funny enough you know at that eels sharks games the eels fans were giving it to Moses.

[00:51:21] More than I've ever had the sharks give it to Niko you know and like you know I'm not and I've been in experiences with other crowds that that fans are far more abusive of their mistakes by the star players then I can honestly say that I've heard very much at Shark Park but if a player makes an obvious or dumb era it's it's going to get it's going to be the focus of crowds.

[00:51:45] The player is going to become the focus of the crowd's frustration.

[00:51:50] I thought maybe just origin because there's that like mixture of the 16 clubs and you know people who had 14 beers and it's like nine o'clock at night in the kicking off I thought maybe given the way that all of you crazy people feel about origin the emotions might have overridden someone deal out hey Niko you're not very good or whatever.

[00:52:08] In origin I think some of those kicks those sort of pretty tepid bombs that put no pressure on Queensland they were kind of met with groans but that's going to you know there's plenty of mistackles and other errors that other players made as well I mean if you're the teams kicker and the kick is ineffective well then you're going to be again you're going to be the focus of the crowds frustrations.

[00:52:35] I'm going to skip an email and come back to it but on that our friend Adam wrote to us and he said he said state of origin I watch it but I get over a loss pretty quickly I know you love stats here's a few from game one tackles Heinz made 29 missed four what's the half back who's the other five eight.

[00:52:56] Drom Lui. Lui 23 tackles missed nine Angus Crichton 27 tackles missed nine errors Niko Nunn 32 Lomax 3 Robson 2 he actually hardly did anything wrong his biggest issue was he didn't have an absolute blind while injured on one leg in a side that was never going to win.

[00:53:19] Joey Johns at his peak couldn't have saved that game it'd be nice to see them win it'd be nice to see the sharks win this weekend so that's from our friend Adam Flanagan and he makes some good points I mean we can't.

[00:53:30] Necessarily judge everything off stats but if you were to do that he missed way less tackles and other chaps if you're basing on that no errors so just I wanted to backtrack up what you're saying there can but let's go to David this is a very interesting one you know this camp.

[00:53:48] I mean hearing discussions from Ivan Cleary and feel good on some type of reimbursement or reward for clubs that develop their own talent had me thinking what players are currently in the NRL it came through our system. Here is a sharks developed.

[00:54:01] Or at least Newtown Jets team currently in the NRL so he sort of amalgamated those but you'll follow what he's saying so full back. Conor Tracy wingers. Oh I remember this camp. Jermaine Asako and Josh at Ocar. I remember that team what about this for some centers.

[00:54:22] Bronson Sherry and my man not the third best shark of all time but my man Valentine the future homes halves look Metcalf and Chad Townsend competent grand final winner.

[00:54:34] Front row of Tyson Frizzell Jaden Brailey and Jamie and Joliff a back row which includes two premiership winners at least Scott Sorenson Jack Bird and Tyrone Peachy and he's got one person on the bench for some reason and not anymore unless I've cut it off which is Carl Flanagan but yeah he says how do you think

[00:54:57] the team to perform how much compensation seller cap are they worth I mean it's hard to put a figure on that unless you want to actually go through what they're worth but it's not a bad team.

[00:55:08] Well it's a pretty good team Sam but I suppose it's interesting to look at that list now and think about what are we going to think about the 2014 sharks squad extended squad in in 10 years time.

[00:55:24] You know I think that when I look at that list that it says to me that the challenges that you have in both bringing players with potential through to actually performing well in the NRL keeping them with the salary cap restrictions.

[00:55:41] I don't know what what we what I mean every club is going to probably have a not dissimilar list of players that came up somehow through their what they would claim to be their development programs.

[00:55:54] Yeah yeah I mean it's a it's an that's an amazing testament to the local region and the sharks but yeah I don't know how you could possibly kind of compensate for that in well yeah salary cap rather.

[00:56:06] I don't know how you do it unless you just literally added up their figures and took a percentage but I take your point that every club would have a list.

[00:56:15] This list is pretty good but you're right like Jamey Nasaka was amazing as a junior he's taken what three four five years in our role play to really hit his stride.

[00:56:28] Josh had a car always quick but never really great until he went to Melbourne from the West Tigers. Conor Tracy always showed glimpses not playing this week spoiler against the Bulldogs but he's found his feet at the Bulldogs at fullback.

[00:56:44] I think everyone else kind of has their own story but I guess my point is yeah you literally can't keep them all and they did well to keep for example Bronson Sherry Valentine Holmes.

[00:56:58] I will go to let us cycle and Josh out of cargo around the same time or whatever this pros and cons there yeah now Sherry didn't have to take illegal drugs and Valentine Holmes didn't have to go decide to.

[00:57:10] Take over the world and then go back to North Queensland there are reasons why we lost some of these guys but yeah I answered David is we don't know how much they were but it's a really good team I really appreciate you taking the time.

[00:57:22] And if you want to tell us how much you think their compensation is worth and please let us know.

[00:57:29] I guess Sam I guess we get in it's dangerous territory though isn't that about compensating clubs for junior development or at least players that are coming into their development pathways because all of a sudden then.

[00:57:44] The wealthier club apart from kind of the difference between clubs and where they're drawing players from but then it just becomes another arms race doesn't it.

[00:57:55] The clubs are pulling players in with their best potential in the hope that sometime down the track is going to earn them a salary cap. Concession and things like that so I think it's a really great.

[00:58:06] It's a great discussion you know that David's put forward but yeah it's it's a it's a bit of a minefield isn't it once you start thinking about these sort of things.

[00:58:16] I think maybe there's some validation that if you would let for example and I suck I go when we did and then he was boom from the get go but he took a long time to develop.

[00:58:30] See Sam maybe what we need to do it needs to be like songwriting royalties and so that where these players go through the other clubs so we the sharks can earn a proportion of.

[00:58:42] You know as I wish you'd be earning a portion of a zaco's salary salary now that he's finally come good and.

[00:58:50] And it was all his success with the dolphins has got nothing to do with anything except the grounding he got with the sharks we created him we wrote him and now we're getting the royalty I like it I like it Chad says I'm bringing my family down from Newcastle for a home.

[00:59:04] Sharkbuck experience against the Knights in August I think the women are playing before the men on the Sunday do you know when tickets are released for that day definitely I think it's the first women's home game if I'm wrong I'm sorry but definitely the women's game is before.

[00:59:18] Cam you know you're more into that stuff than I am do you know they'd be on sale now right. Yeah that's a good question actually because we've been keeping an eye on that I didn't think that they were quite on sale yet but.

[00:59:29] Sorry let me backtrack the game for the NRL Newcastle would that be on sale or not. I know that that should that should be on sale already yeah it's a double header essentially is what I'm saying yeah okay yeah I did tell him to check it out.

[00:59:43] And don't wait for the week before because you probably won't get a ticket but Chad if you have any issues that bounce back this weekend we can try and get more info for you.

[00:59:53] Brad said ask everyone to write in to the pod us the reason they support Cornola Brad says I've supported Cornola my whole life because my mum's cousin is Matty and Donnie Rogers.

[01:00:08] Steve used to get us kids into the Sheds after the games when he was managing I think when Steve was in an admin role.

[01:00:18] Brad that means we're not related but we're good friends with Donnie and we love Matty so it's a great idea I said to Brad that we often ask people how they got into the sharks.

[01:00:28] And maybe over the summer we can do an episode people write in they can tell us about how they got into the sharks but in the meantime if you ever want to just write in and tell us why you're a supporter we'll always love to hear that kind of thing so.

[01:00:39] Appreciate Brad's thoughts now Sam I thought that the I thought the golden rule was that nearly all shark supporters became shark supporters because they either like the colors or they like drawing sharks on their school pencil case.

[01:00:52] Well I know that in our history of talking about this there is a lot of I was given a pen and had a football on it and a shark inside it.

[01:01:01] I like drawing sharks on pencil cases I like the colors there's a lot of that and as kids you understand that and you and I we have kids and we understand the simplicity that we probably had forgotten because we became such angry adults but kids just like colors they like sharks they like things.

[01:01:21] So however if Brad's telling us that his cousin is Matty and Donnie therefore related to Steve I think that's a pretty good reason as well so there's obviously circumstances there where it's not the colors and everything else.

[01:01:35] But yeah everyone please get in touch anytime you like about that kind of thing Wade says surely this new retro release turns you into a Jersey guy Sam what a day looks unreal already preordered mine to go with my other 23 years.

[01:01:51] I'm not a Jersey guy I'm just not obsessed like most of our colleagues can you're you're semi obsessed but you're not and if you if you are obsessed you don't let on but some the way you know whom I think of Clinton and.

[01:02:18] Well definitely our newest recruit Kieran but just all the Jardine they're all just everyone's obsessed with jerseys I love jerseys I am a Jersey guy Wade.

[01:02:28] And the new one looks great it looks great and I'm with Cam though I want to clean away one from 82 when it grew up their trucks are still around they're still driving around camp.

[01:02:38] But Wade you will see me at a game in the Jersey because I promised Kieran this will happen so I expect the high five and a beer on that day Sam I have been to a game with you wearing a.

[01:02:52] Plenty games of me and I warn jerseys absolutely make it very clear to the listeners Sam has been seen in a. I have heaps of them I have a lot of them they're necessarily all fit me currently but we'll get to that in another time.

[01:03:06] CJ and Hobart says thanks for the awesome pod it keeps sharks fans in a state connected. I thought I'd throw something up about how we don't have a great record playing at home in big games over the past few years.

[01:03:18] Could there be something in the pressure and expectation when at home against quality opposition. We have had great wins in big stadiums this year.

[01:03:26] Could this be due to the lifted intensity in these stadiums when we finish top two I think we should take it away from Shark Park controversial I know but sharks fans will follow.

[01:03:39] I know I'll be on a flight straight away if we are playing at Alliance for example in a semi thanks again for all you do CJ and Hobart.

[01:03:48] So Cam do you think there is any truth there that we feel too much pressure and expectation as a team at home against quality opposition.

[01:03:59] Yeah I don't know I'm not it doesn't make sense that we do I mean I think that there's there's got to be expectation amongst the players that they're playing in front of their fans and that they want to perform well.

[01:04:11] And we hear players say this time and time and time again whether it be about wanting to come out and play for the fans or their response to the atmosphere at the game with the fans of there.

[01:04:23] I don't know what looks I don't know what it looks like with an entire team feeling pressure and stuff like that of expectation. But you sort of would think that they should be feeling far more relaxed to play in a ground and facilities that they're all familiar with.

[01:04:39] And in the past it's been a fortress and I know that when we have our end of year specials almost every year one of the wishes for the season ahead is that Shark Park becomes fortress for our home games and there's been plenty of other times in many other seasons where it has.

[01:04:57] So I'm not. Yeah I'm not sure what kind of contributes to this the mental challenge or the mental challenges if you want to call that about the performance. I hear you I hear you and I think I agree with you.

[01:05:11] I think CJ might be hinting at the fact that you know we're also pent up as fans and we're in this little stadium on top of everyone else on top of the players.

[01:05:20] And maybe it's a different experience than being at Sun Corp or Allianz where it's a bigger crowd but it's also a bigger space.

[01:05:31] Maybe it's something to do with that I'm not quite sure but as in what CJ is trying to get across here I understand what he's saying and I just can't articulate it in his words because they're his words and his thoughts.

[01:05:41] But he is saying that he wants the home final in the city which he has every right to say and we all have very different opinions on that.

[01:05:52] I like that he thinks we're going to finish top two because there's still a chance and I like that a lot so hopefully we do. Thanks CJ for listening from so far away beautiful part of the world Hobart some swamp down there Cam.

[01:06:03] There's some good swamps down there and there's plenty of other reasons to go to Hobart Tasmania in general. Georgia says is AFB coming next week. Time is up and it's time to bring in here early. It's a win win very short.

[01:06:16] I think that was the one on the DMS very short and sharp from Georgia. Time is running out you're 100% correct. I think if it's not the end of the month it's the end of the week like it's days from when you can do that kind of stuff.

[01:06:29] All my mail is that he's definitely not coming. I use the word definitely without obviously completely knowing but everything I've been I've been trying to get out of people is that no it's not happening and it sounds genuine.

[01:06:46] It sounds genuine that it's not happening. It sounds like he doesn't necessarily want to come early. We might not be able to make it happen.

[01:06:55] Although he hasn't been playing that great over there and they haven't been playing great so it would make sense that someone sees him playing just when I even I watching him I watching him play last week I was like you doing nothing come to Sharks Park and help us out helps win a comp but Cam I don't think it's happening.

[01:07:10] No but you think that all the pieces are in place.

[01:07:15] If it could happen surely it would happen like even from his perspective like you would sort of feel like opportunity come early to the club that's performing fairly well ahead of your next few years there's probably there's probably reasons that can't happen but surely there's reason enough for him to want to come you would think based on the respective two teams performances at the very least.

[01:07:40] I did see our recruitment guy Darren Rooney down at the media and training day and he was on the phone the whole time.

[01:07:49] And I said to a few people is he talking to AFB's manager and they were like no he's just on the phone all the time that's his job so I was like okay that's interesting job but everything indicates it's not going to happen.

[01:08:02] You never say never is the only hope I will give you but I don't think it's happening.

[01:08:07] Now Sam before you go on we have to remember that all of the significant signing news news for the Sharks over the years has always come kind of out of the blue so maybe yeah maybe.

[01:08:19] I've got this at 99% not happening but there's that 1% that it could but yeah the clock is literally ticking yeah without spoiling too much our New Zealand prop has not been named this week and people are already writing to me going is there a swap happening.

[01:08:36] It's like no I think he's unwell that's why he hasn't been named so. Michael says I love the retro heritage Jersey and I love them in general my question to you and your guest this week is what version is next.

[01:08:51] I still think the Reebok type is fantastic but what about the teal version which they did in the 95 preseason challenge they only wore that for that preseason. And if you haven't seen that it's that Jersey but it's teal like it looks different.

[01:09:08] Another one I would recommend is the 2004 5LG away version as well as the 0607 white and grey away version and he sent in a picture of Luke Kavellum that and I think people would know that one the white and grey one.

[01:09:23] I think also referred to as the Lance Thompson era now Cam you've already voted for clean away. Yeah so I suspect that in the same way that sharks fans who have a passion for the Reebok sponsorship will probably be disappointed.

[01:09:39] I think that I don't know if Aramax is going to get is is going to get pushed to the side in favor of clean away. So I might be left searching through a beta to inevitably find one of those but look I don't know what's next.

[01:09:55] I think we've been on a really good job recently of knocking over the various more recent history and Jersey's what about you Sam is there anything that's nothing particularly spring to mind.

[01:10:09] Of course you know obviously of course we want to the shark mouth from the eights from the whatever whatever it was. Whatever it was. Oh that would be hilarious if they yeah was it what was it. The last the last nine's tournament one was it the 2019 shark mouth.

[01:10:30] Yeah I get annoyed whenever I see that I just get annoyed. Yeah but that'd be hilarious maybe that's a good speak to the club that'd be good April Fool's joke next year if they announced that as the as the retro at Jersey.

[01:10:44] But yeah I don't know I don't have there's not a there's not another Jersey that springs to mind because I do like obviously this one that's been put out.

[01:10:54] I do like the other kind of white V heritage Jersey and yeah all of my other nostalgia is more about sponsorships than Jersey's design I think I may get in trouble here can but that's OK trouble just finds me tell me if I'm being a party Pippa or not and usually do.

[01:11:12] Do I have any claim or any kind of leg to stand on by thinking that with these brilliant releases and I love them I love the fact that it's retro and it's history and they're making money I love it.

[01:11:27] Do I have a leg to stand on when I see them and I go why couldn't we use the original badge and I know the reason why. But when I see the current sponsor or a different sponsor to the one it's known for an example Reebok.

[01:11:45] I get slightly annoyed is that bad is that negative. No I think it's I feel your frustration because I guess we want the 100% replica don't you. Of the Jersey and that's our that's our ideal that we want.

[01:12:05] But we're going to have to make some compromises and the problem the benefit of having these new release jerseys at least they probably will feed us properly as opposed to some of the other jerseys that we're trying to dig up through auction sites and things like that so I completely understand it and there's really there's got to be a.

[01:12:28] There's got to be a cottage industry here to sort of modify make bespoke sharks jerseys from from salvage bits and pieces you know and all sorts of stuff like that you talking non official. Yeah let's look let's you know we don't want upset the club.

[01:12:47] The trouble will be directed towards you for it surely these days with you know is there what's a 3D printer version of clothing or something like that.

[01:12:55] Surely there's an opportunity there to I was just thinking about Chinese friends DH gate or whatever you know where they make the basketball and NFL jerseys you know.

[01:13:05] Yeah I'm surprised it's not a there's got to be a yeah not not not a retro but the current stuff is kind of everywhere on the Internet and it's just like that's not official that's not real.

[01:13:16] Yeah I know but why why can't we engage these we can anything's possible. Companies make up this world is yours to take if you want to do things.

[01:13:26] Banzi right now is knocking on the studio door threatening to take away my license to talk Andrew says I'm hating the week off without Abel of sharks but I think the buy couldn't have come at a better time.

[01:13:40] He talks about the players and the coaches being freshened up for it.

[01:13:44] When I look at the table this week it perfectly sums up the shark season where we should be and we see where the Panthers and dolphins are you can forgive the losses but not so much the efforts in those games but it's the bottom two teams.

[01:13:59] The loss of the eels and the Tigers what I'm concerned about going to the second half of the year. I hope I'm wrong but the losses will mostly come back to haunt us. That's from Andrew very passionate sharks man shark cast follower. I think that you're right.

[01:14:16] I think that the losses will come back to haunt us in some way because they're four points that we just can't get back you just you can try and get it back another way and say that we won't get to win these games and but they've.

[01:14:29] It's literally four points you cannot get back so therefore it will come back to haunt you in some way. The job is for the sharks to just win as many games they can and finish as high as they can and then you won't think about that stuff so.

[01:14:42] Completely appreciate you being in touch completely appreciate your support and we're going to finish with our friend Lush in Melbourne and he says I could sense the frustration last week in the letters episode.

[01:14:54] With all the bagging out of the team it's getting a bit much I think sometimes people forget that being a supporter is supposed to mean you back your team through good times and bad.

[01:15:05] Sure call out stuff when you need to but respectfully and remember these blokes are doing this purely for our entertainment at the end of the day. That's from Lush from the post credits podcast.

[01:15:18] He's a good fella he's got a good heart and and we're big fans of Lush and yeah last week was a bit hectic in the mail section.

[01:15:26] I bet you glad you had the week off last week camp but yeah this is what the team does you know brings out emotions and everyone was respectful in their own way that's all I can ask.

[01:15:37] Was it was hot and heavy as they say in Seinfeld but we got through it this week not so bad so all the boys have to do now is win and make some people happy but Lush I agree with you as you know you're 100% spot on.

[01:15:50] So shout out to you with your podcast the post credits show podcast I want to give a shout out our friends at Finns up our friends Terry and Dan there I think currently recording right now and that'll be out at some point.

[01:16:03] And also give a shout out to the new kids on the block the ET stand podcast I apologize the ET stand podcast as guys are doing good job.

[01:16:13] We're not the only sharks podcast out there believe it or not so if you want to spread your wings the only thing about that can is they have to come back to us.

[01:16:23] So go check out the other guys but come back to us but you know that's you know podcast you know controversy giving up he'll shout out to this point in my life cam this is where I'm at because I appreciate people taking the time to do what they're doing especially with this great club.

[01:16:38] There's always enough hours in the day for another sharks podcast there is actually that's right I was about to disagree with you but you're 100% right there is.

[01:16:48] I want to give a shout out to our friend Jason Hawes at Crips and Crips real estate he has been working locally for over 20 years and he is the most honest and reliable real estate person in the area.

[01:17:04] And he's a sharks sharks fanatic sharks member sharks season ticket holder.

[01:17:10] I believe you might have even sponsored them at some point at a smaller level and if you need anything with real estate with with anything at all just call him on 0410417450 tell him I sent you and he will look after you as best he can 0410417450 really good dude Jason Hawes.

[01:17:31] I've seen Mr Paisley is quite a lot hanging out and talking sharks he'll be excited about Vegas I can assure you cam before I let you go and dream about mosquitoes like you do.

[01:17:45] Let's talk about the dogs and sharks this Friday at 8 o'clock kickoff at Homebush I can tell you that Conor Tracy is out for the Bulldogs Blake Taff is playing fullback Bronson Sherry returns.

[01:18:01] It's a handy pack not the best pack of the same but kick out really makes up for a lot of other complacencies there they haven't named Crichton except in number 23 but you think he will be the first guy running out should he be fit for the mighty sharkies.

[01:18:16] They are as you would imagine from last time they played but but they are missing Braden Hamlin Welley he hasn't been named to play.

[01:18:28] I don't have an exact reason why I know he didn't train the other day but I thought that was due to a flu type kind of thing so I'm not sure if that's still happening with him or if he's just got some other injury or the reason why he's not named we'll find that out over the coming days.

[01:18:43] Now T. Wilkins named in 21 and I'm of the belief cam without confirming I'm of the belief that he will play and I kind of think that that will push Siffer Talakai our man is 100th game back to the bench and you will probably see big 2 coup get a rest.

[01:19:04] The other alternative might be Tom Hazelton but I think it'll be 2 coup and Jesse Cole Hoon your man is on the extended bench very strong team named otherwise that is happening out at home bush Gerard Sutton is your referee Adam G.

[01:19:20] Is your video referee what do you thoughts there on the two teams initially camp.

[01:19:25] Yeah pretty good we've got a pretty strong team I guess this is one of these games that is sort of makes you feel a little bit nervous particularly if Crichton does back up which is sort of do expect him to.

[01:19:42] It's one of these games that we certainly should win I think sort of you know there's a the bulldogs been playing pretty well and really well defensively as well and so this will not be a game where we have to rely on scoring a lot of points to come back from behind in.

[01:20:02] Because they seem to have been able to demonstrate that their defense is pretty reasonable so we can't sort of concede too many I don't think but we've had the buy we're not missing anyone or with a just disrupted preparation for origin.

[01:20:18] Let's sort of get into it and I guess we have played generally pretty well against the bulldogs irrespective of their lineup for that for a number of years now so.

[01:20:28] I'm reasonably confident but also this is a game that we should we should win so one the past six we won 12 of the past 14 definitely dominated them we've won three of the past four at home bush against them.

[01:20:44] Now this is that where it gets interesting so bulldogs they did lose last week to the roosters and they weren't particularly good but that that broke a three game winning streak so they were on a roll.

[01:20:56] They've won five in a row at home bush they're averaging under 17 points a game under 17 the last time I did that was in 2012 and that's the year they made a grand final defensively they lead the competition in fewestries fewestries.

[01:21:13] They just run meters and fewestries line breaks per game and only Penrith concede less points so.

[01:21:22] They're pretty on the money defensively this year it's finally clicked Cam Cam Seralo effect is finally clicked the roosters did put 26 on them last week I think we're at a similar level with the roosters as far as our attack when we click.

[01:21:35] I'm not overly worried about it but we need to have one of those games where we can complete a high level the penalties ruck infringements are low.

[01:21:47] Don't give them a sniff and I think we win we win comfortably I don't think by a lot as in like by 30 but I think we win comfortably that's if all that goes to plan but they've got cry and they've got kick out.

[01:22:00] I'll say this and I want to jinx the guy as in reverse jinx him but having Blake taff at fullback which we saw I think earlier in the year.

[01:22:11] We saw it recently as opposed to Conor Tracy is a huge positive and I'm not saying Blake doesn't have some talents because he does but he can he can spill a ball as well so I'd be putting a lot of pressure on him with our kicks and with kick pressure especially.

[01:22:26] I think there's a vantage there for us already and we just got to go do our thing and just play well play like we played in all those big games where they're completing a really high level and I think they'll be fine I really do.

[01:22:40] You know you need to target kick out he's got the big offload in him. There's a few guys out there that you really need to target control them you pretty much control the game.

[01:22:49] Whereas I think for the sharks to have a number of people who can kind of break the line or do something good to help us out.

[01:22:57] It's if it's how he has 100th game in the NRL which is a great achievement and at the moment he's starting I think he might be off the bench but he's starting you never know what's going to happen there.

[01:23:06] What do you think Cam win by 6 to 12 points what are your thoughts. Yeah I reckon 6 to 12 is a pretty good expectation. I think you're right.

[01:23:17] I think the sharks have looked the most vulnerable when teams are getting off loads away and I suppose that's one of the things that we need to contain this week but it's also those errors.

[01:23:31] I mean if we can cut down conceding the penalties and errors particularly in fact the sharks seem to you might know this off top of your head but we seem to be equally bad at giving them away coming.

[01:23:45] Coming off our line as we are attacking the line sometimes you know maybe it's just that there's been a couple of noteworthy ones in the opposition's 20 that kind of hard to shake from the memory but I think it's that containing the off loads that probably is one of the main things to be concerned about.

[01:24:01] And not falling for the read Marnie Neagle which I think might have been a feature of the game when we played earlier in the season. Yeah one of the games towards the end of last season so yeah that'll be an interesting matchup between Blake and Reid.

[01:24:20] I think I thought you were going to go somewhere else with that and I'll say don't fall for the dummy half try from one meter out where he just does it every game and usually successful.

[01:24:30] He's as annoying as he is he's a decent player and yeah I'd forgotten about the Marnie Neagle so I'm sure that the team's on top of that as far as off loads go is kick out and it's Karaz the back who's quite good makes a lot of meters a lot of off loads if you can stop both of those guys off loading.

[01:24:49] And I feel like from memory they're on opposite sides of field and maybe wrong but stop those two off loading and you go a long way cam so yeah they know what to do.

[01:24:59] They've done their prep they've had a week and a half at least to get ready for it so they are looking to right some wrongs and I think we're going to be feeling pretty good once we get that win get back on track.

[01:25:11] Get you up to Cofs Harbour and March on ahead before we go cam because we were all out of shark talk. You saw dirty three recently.

[01:25:20] Yeah dirty three last week so yeah one of my favorite bands and probably now probably one of the bands that I've probably seen more than a lot of others as well from over the years and so yeah they were fantastic at the end more.

[01:25:32] I was disappointed I couldn't sort of add the thrill trip to go and see them on the down at Wollongong but yeah fantastic band new album out so anyone who's not familiar with the dirty three were checking them out violin guitar drums.

[01:25:47] Atmospheric dramatic rock and roll without the vocals yeah fantastic band now remind me did you see Nick Cave recently. Yep he sure did so Nick Cave that was at the state theater when he was just playing solo piano with Colin from Radiohead on bass that was really great.

[01:26:08] I don't think there's been a time that I've seen Nick that I haven't left being really impressed. Didn't have great seats at the state theater that kind of was a bit frustrating up the back underneath.

[01:26:20] So you're kind of looking through it looks like you got to look at the stage like a letterbox like you're inside the letterbox it's a bit awkward but that's a great venue always pretty good. Did I tell you I went and saw it?

[01:26:32] I think I knew that you were going to see I think we've spoken since then what did you think. I thought it was incredible I went and saw him at the ICC. Oh yeah.

[01:26:43] And I don't know how it happened but I had front row seats and I had him kind of in front of him a little bit to the left.

[01:26:52] So basically I was looking at a very slight angle and it was Nick and then it was Colin and I'm not I'm only saying that because it was just unbelievable night. I'd forgotten to be honest. It's a sin to say how good he is.

[01:27:07] I mean I hadn't seen him for probably 15 20 years. I saw him a number of times earlier in my life and then never gave up or anything.

[01:27:16] I just sort of didn't go back for different reasons but I saw this tour and I was like I've got to go to this and it was just lights out and I don't think I'd ever heard him do shivers before so that was amazing.

[01:27:28] And I'll tell you one very sad story is that I've been looking at the set list doing the hour and corner thing we look at the set list.

[01:27:36] You know there's no surprises and then I noticed that he was finishing with usually a song every night that is my favorite Nick Cave song. And so he played this amazing set it was unbelievable all these songs he was funny he did the thing where he stands up.

[01:27:52] And then I was like OK it's time to go home he's going to play my favorite song people ain't no good but he didn't play it.

[01:28:00] He finished with I can't even tell you I think it was a cover of something he finished with a cover and it was amazing but I was just thinking why didn't you play my song.

[01:28:11] But I didn't turn into one of those things that wreck the night or anything you know people you know people get a bit weird about like it was a great show but I didn't play it like I'm not saying that it was just funny that I'd.

[01:28:21] I mean I studied up on the set list going well at least I know he's going to finish with my favorite song.

[01:28:26] He didn't do it so yeah that's a trap that's a that's a trap to look ahead for for set lists but I know the yeah I know the disappointment that has happened to me in the past but but yeah Nick's fantastic and you know as we you and I have spoken about before I mean I think for someone to have been around for so long and to still be producing like really strong material on his.

[01:28:51] 20th album whatever however many albums there's been there kind of pretty few art few they're very few artists that can kind of just can be continually producing really as good stuff.

[01:29:03] In their careers at you know now then however many decades ago they were and and that's putting aside all of the great soundtrack work that he and Warren Ellis do from the 33.

[01:29:14] So I'm really looking forward Sam hopefully a full scale bad seeds tour early early in the year. Yeah so that'll be good.

[01:29:27] It was good to see him really good to see Nick Cave and I know a lot of our listeners listen to him and and I think I was just really happy to.

[01:29:35] Get back into the relationship but then just be blown away and obviously having Colin from radio it was just just a cherry on top was like I'm not a big bass guys you know but I was like this is pretty cool like the guy from radio just there he's playing really nice and

[01:29:49] And he looked like he had the best job in the world. Oh best job in the world.

[01:29:53] Like I mean he played it tastefully but I mean he wasn't reinventing the wheel either which is great if you don't want him to but yeah good night out that's for sure. Hey Cam thanks for joining us.

[01:30:04] We know that your time is precious and really appreciate you coming on. We look forward to seeing you at a game at a function and a gig. You got anything you want to spruke your social media or anything or the mosquito service something.

[01:30:19] Look you can people who are listening if they want to if they're interested in entomology they can always jump online and find me on most of the social media at mozibikes is you know across Instagram just like Twitter and even Facebook.

[01:30:35] And if anyone's sort of interesting in getting a bit of a listen to the music to see where he makes we're providing one of the one of the pieces that's going to be playing at the Art Gallery of New South Wales as part of the volume festival next month so

[01:30:50] That's part of the threshold installation series that's been playing at the volume festival so some people might be going along to see Kim Gordon from Sonic Youth or maybe Andre 3000 I think he's doing his kind of big spectacular but

[01:31:06] in some distant corner of the Art Gallery you might be able to hear some nice ambient sounds thanks to C Worthy and my friend Matt Rosenthal from WA.

[01:31:15] Yeah and we don't talk about enough but but your musical output is called C Worthy legendary respected all around the world.

[01:31:23] I know you talk it down a lot but we all love it and we're proud of you if you're into instrumental sounds and and I don't know how what else would you call it Kim people generally that say like ambient ambient ambient ambient.

[01:31:36] That you think cam's the guy so check out C Worthy. Yeah that's that's great news man about that that's incredible I don't think I knew that so that's good to hear after check that out are you going to be are you playing is that what you're saying.

[01:31:50] No I'm not playing music I'm not playing but the sound installation work will be there amongst a couple of other people so keep check out the website of the Art Gallery of New South Wales if you want to find out more about that lots of free shows lots of almost a month long festival.

[01:32:05] Yeah if you're interested in something bit left of centre that'd be yeah well worth checking out and dumb it down for me you're going to be just on rotation.

[01:32:13] Yeah so there's together with a three other artists we've kind of recorded 20 minute long pieces that we'll be playing in parts of the Art Gallery so for those that haven't been there there's sort of like two buildings at the Art Gallery now and you'll be able to wander around and hear some of that music

[01:32:32] and see some great art and yeah a few gigs as well so yeah again check out the New South Wales Art Gallery of New South Wales website for all that information about the volume festival.

[01:32:44] Now Cam I was just thinking about where we're planning a live watch along for winter time and hopefully it gets off the ground and it happens aren't you glad it's not going to be like a Christmas party where everyone can bring along their mosquito bites and their mosquito jars and go Dr Cam.

[01:33:02] How do you solve a problem like Maria I was going to say you need to warn people about your Instagram because you do from time to time post pictures of deadly spiders.

[01:33:12] That's true and I always report you always I'm trying I'm trying to desensitize you Sam but I'm always welcome anyone can send me pictures of jars for the mosquitoes and I'll do my best to tell you what they are how they're going to kill you and how you can protect yourself from their bites.

[01:33:26] So thanks for that community service Sam and have it for me on lifting note we'll say goodbye thanks Cam we'll talk to you soon listeners of viewers talk to you all soon as well this is Sharkas pod and we look forward to the game this week we'll talk to you all as soon as we can.

[01:33:45] We're going to get out of here signing off Cam Webb Sam Shinazi talk to you soon up up Krunala let's go. And all you people back in the show tell you what's like to come back with a trophy.