Flagship Episode with Sam Shinazzi and Tristan K'Nell (21/8/24)

[00:00:00] [SPEAKER_02]: SharkCast! SharkCast! SharkCast! SharkCast! SharkCast!

[00:00:08] [SPEAKER_02]: Fafina tries to crash his way over in Dallas

[00:00:11] [SPEAKER_02]: Fafina dropped the ball over the line

[00:00:14] [SPEAKER_02]: And all you people back in the Shire

[00:00:17] [SPEAKER_02]: Tell you watch live drop, cause we're coming home with a trophy

[00:00:31] [SPEAKER_04]: Hey there welcome to SharkCast. A podcast dedicated to the greatest sporting club in the history of the world, the mighty Cronulla Sutherland Sharks

[00:00:38] [SPEAKER_04]: This podcast is brought to you by Dyson Logistics, the Royal Modyo Club in Port Hacking and Jason Hawes of Crips & Crips Real Estate

[00:00:44] [SPEAKER_04]: I am Sam Shinazzi, I am OG 2015

[00:00:48] [SPEAKER_04]: And on the other end of this podcast is a good friend of mine, good friend of the shows

[00:00:54] [SPEAKER_04]: We don't get him very often but when we do we make it count and that's what tonight's gonna be

[00:00:59] [SPEAKER_04]: He is a podcasting guru

[00:01:02] [SPEAKER_04]: He came from the long running interview series of Talking with TK

[00:01:08] [SPEAKER_04]: And then he's moved on to very successful fantasy driven content which is killing it

[00:01:16] [SPEAKER_04]: And people are just obsessed with fantasy

[00:01:18] [SPEAKER_04]: And he's a terrific all round lad

[00:01:22] [SPEAKER_04]: He's my good friend Tristan Knell

[00:01:24] [SPEAKER_04]: TK how you going my friend?

[00:01:26] [SPEAKER_01]: Doing good Sam, how are you there mate?

[00:01:28] [SPEAKER_01]: Thanks for having me back on, thanks for the intro too man

[00:01:30] [SPEAKER_01]: I always love coming on SharkCast cause I know I get a good intro from the man

[00:01:33] [SPEAKER_01]: The myth of legends Sammy

[00:01:35] [SPEAKER_01]: But mate it's great to catch up cause we haven't caught up since Penrith came in

[00:01:39] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah so I was trying to think when we last saw each other

[00:01:41] [SPEAKER_04]: I knew that it was positive with a bunch of negativity around it

[00:01:46] [SPEAKER_04]: And you nailed it straight away you said Penrith

[00:01:48] [SPEAKER_04]: H-Man, myself, Kieran and you

[00:01:51] [SPEAKER_04]: The terrible force and that was

[00:01:53] [SPEAKER_04]: We did not give the team what they needed and we lost 42-0

[00:01:58] [SPEAKER_04]: So had a good time, three other terrific great people hanging out watching some footy

[00:02:03] [SPEAKER_04]: But that was not a great experience otherwise

[00:02:06] [SPEAKER_04]: But good to have you on

[00:02:08] [SPEAKER_04]: What have you been up to tell us about the podcast, Sprook?

[00:02:11] [SPEAKER_04]: Everything you would like to Sprook?

[00:02:12] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah the podcast is all good

[00:02:13] [SPEAKER_01]: Fantasy sports as you said was just going from strength to strength

[00:02:16] [SPEAKER_01]: So Talking Leagues actually yeah we've grown to 13 members

[00:02:19] [SPEAKER_01]: And 5 shows across the week which is always fun

[00:02:22] [SPEAKER_01]: The boys yeah we get together every magic round which is always great

[00:02:24] [SPEAKER_01]: Which went over to Auckland and the Sea few of the boys as well

[00:02:27] [SPEAKER_01]: So yeah New Zealand is actually huge for fantasy sports

[00:02:30] [SPEAKER_01]: So yeah really enjoyed my little trip over there

[00:02:32] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah man it's just good to like I said before we started the show

[00:02:37] [SPEAKER_01]: I've just gone to Africa in a couple weeks just to climb Kilimajaro

[00:02:39] [SPEAKER_01]: So that should be a bit of fun

[00:02:41] [SPEAKER_01]: I did say I'm going to be back for the pre-limb and I'm very confident we'll be there

[00:02:45] [SPEAKER_04]: Well we will get to that cause that is exciting news

[00:02:48] [SPEAKER_04]: We'll get to that, we're going to a pre-limb you heard it here from CK

[00:02:52] [SPEAKER_04]: He'll tell us how we're going to get there as well I'm sure when it's relevant

[00:02:56] [SPEAKER_04]: But we haven't spoken to you much this year on air

[00:02:59] [SPEAKER_04]: I want to start out with just discussing where the sharks are at

[00:03:03] [SPEAKER_04]: What you're feeling is there's been a lot of weird circumstances

[00:03:05] [SPEAKER_04]: Injuries, suspensions, off field stuff

[00:03:10] [SPEAKER_04]: How do you think we've gone so far given all that

[00:03:14] [SPEAKER_04]: Give me something to talk about what's going on

[00:03:16] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah you know I've really enjoyed this season Sam because there's been such a rollercoaster ups and downs

[00:03:21] [SPEAKER_01]: And I'm really glad that we're actually tackling a bit of adversity

[00:03:23] [SPEAKER_01]: Kind of especially since that kind of magic round

[00:03:25] [SPEAKER_01]: And when Nico went to Origin didn't play that well, got injured

[00:03:29] [SPEAKER_01]: Whole heap of different kind of scenarios that have kind of faced the team

[00:03:33] [SPEAKER_01]: Which I don't think we've really had that since Fitz has kind of taken over

[00:03:36] [SPEAKER_01]: So like I think we're actually really good preparation this time going to the same

[00:03:41] [SPEAKER_01]: Because I was having a look at the ladder today

[00:03:43] [SPEAKER_01]: And you know we went through this whole period of not being able to beat top eight teams

[00:03:46] [SPEAKER_01]: Well we've beat five of the top eight and we're one of the top eight

[00:03:49] [SPEAKER_01]: So literally we haven't just

[00:03:51] [SPEAKER_01]: But we've lost to a couple of teams at the bottom as well

[00:03:53] [SPEAKER_01]: So it's kind of like a bit of a weird sort of scenario

[00:03:56] [SPEAKER_01]: But we've come out the blocks really fast

[00:03:57] [SPEAKER_01]: It does seem that the good thing about Nico not playing right now

[00:04:01] [SPEAKER_01]: Is that he's going to be fit for the finals

[00:04:03] [SPEAKER_01]: Like he hasn't played for a long, long time now

[00:04:05] [SPEAKER_01]: See out of like you see Penrith like they're going to have Nathan Cleary

[00:04:09] [SPEAKER_01]: 50-50 even to get to week one of the finals

[00:04:11] [SPEAKER_01]: There's a lot of good players at the moment. They're probably busted

[00:04:14] [SPEAKER_01]: So even though Nico has had surgery and he's coming back

[00:04:18] [SPEAKER_01]: He's probably going to be relatively fresh in terms of like

[00:04:20] [SPEAKER_01]: A lot of his body parts because we all know they carry

[00:04:23] [SPEAKER_01]: Every week they carry injuries right

[00:04:25] [SPEAKER_01]: Like there are niggles, they're getting knocks

[00:04:27] [SPEAKER_01]: Just look at our team this week they've had to rest Ziffa

[00:04:29] [SPEAKER_01]: Because incredibly long season from Ziffa

[00:04:31] [SPEAKER_01]: He's playing back in the middle apart from last week

[00:04:34] [SPEAKER_01]: Playing on the edge so his game has just changed a lot

[00:04:37] [SPEAKER_01]: So he probably needed to rest this week as well

[00:04:39] [SPEAKER_01]: But I think we're in a really good shape

[00:04:41] [SPEAKER_01]: When you have a look around us right

[00:04:44] [SPEAKER_01]: You have a look at like Penrith and Melbourne

[00:04:47] [SPEAKER_01]: And the Roosters have relatively soft draws

[00:04:49] [SPEAKER_01]: Into the lead up to the semis as well

[00:04:51] [SPEAKER_01]: So they don't have relatively great run into the semis

[00:04:54] [SPEAKER_01]: They go look at the Bulldogs they've got a relatively hard one

[00:04:56] [SPEAKER_01]: But how much steam have they kind of run

[00:05:00] [SPEAKER_01]: Trying to get to the finals as well

[00:05:01] [SPEAKER_01]: I think they're kind of like us from a couple years ago

[00:05:04] [SPEAKER_01]: Where they're already playing their best footy

[00:05:05] [SPEAKER_01]: And then that's where we kind of stumbled into the finals

[00:05:07] [SPEAKER_01]: Because we didn't have a gear past this

[00:05:09] [SPEAKER_01]: I think the Bulldogs are already in their fifth gear at the moment

[00:05:12] [SPEAKER_01]: Where a lot of the teams above us including us

[00:05:14] [SPEAKER_01]: We haven't hit that top gear yet

[00:05:16] [SPEAKER_01]: So I do think they're in a relatively good shape

[00:05:19] [SPEAKER_01]: Even though 1918, like again

[00:05:22] [SPEAKER_01]: We look back to the history of the sharks

[00:05:23] [SPEAKER_01]: And what we've done in the past

[00:05:25] [SPEAKER_01]: Reminds me a lot of 16 because you just get the win

[00:05:28] [SPEAKER_01]: Like you get the wins

[00:05:29] [SPEAKER_01]: It doesn't matter how you play but a good team

[00:05:32] [SPEAKER_01]: Will always find a way to actually get that win

[00:05:35] [SPEAKER_01]: And yeah I'm really liking what

[00:05:36] [SPEAKER_01]: Ever know we've copped a few losses over the last couple months

[00:05:39] [SPEAKER_01]: I still think that we're still building into something

[00:05:41] [SPEAKER_01]: And I still think that we can kind of compete man

[00:05:43] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah I think the difference from 2016 to this season

[00:05:47] [SPEAKER_04]: TK is that we can't quite smash those lower teams

[00:05:50] [SPEAKER_04]: Like we know that when we played Newcastle in 2016

[00:05:52] [SPEAKER_04]: We absolutely destroyed them both times

[00:05:54] [SPEAKER_04]: Like we made the most of playing lesser competition

[00:05:58] [SPEAKER_04]: This year not so much

[00:06:00] [SPEAKER_04]: And they got to learn from that

[00:06:01] [SPEAKER_04]: And I think they will. Just on

[00:06:03] [SPEAKER_04]: Nico Hines, I was down at media today

[00:06:05] [SPEAKER_04]: He was finishing up training

[00:06:07] [SPEAKER_04]: He looks really good

[00:06:09] [SPEAKER_04]: He looks a lot closer than he's ever been

[00:06:12] [SPEAKER_04]: And I think it'll be a couple of weeks still

[00:06:14] [SPEAKER_04]: But he's looking trim and fit

[00:06:17] [SPEAKER_04]: And happy

[00:06:18] [SPEAKER_04]: He's kicking the ball today

[00:06:20] [SPEAKER_04]: And he's getting closer

[00:06:21] [SPEAKER_04]: So I think you make a good point

[00:06:23] [SPEAKER_04]: Like when he comes back

[00:06:24] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah it'll be rusty

[00:06:25] [SPEAKER_04]: But he'll also be pretty fresh

[00:06:27] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah it'll be great to see him back next week

[00:06:29] [SPEAKER_01]: Given it's the home game

[00:06:30] [SPEAKER_01]: Addons coming to Shark Park

[00:06:33] [SPEAKER_01]: SJ's last game we all know

[00:06:34] [SPEAKER_01]: He's through with Mr SJ

[00:06:36] [SPEAKER_01]: But I think next Saturday

[00:06:37] [SPEAKER_01]: I haven't been to a home game for about three

[00:06:40] [SPEAKER_01]: Now I'm definitely going next week

[00:06:41] [SPEAKER_01]: So I'm really pumped about Saturday night

[00:06:43] [SPEAKER_01]: At Shark Park next week

[00:06:45] [SPEAKER_01]: SJ is one of those things

[00:06:46] [SPEAKER_01]: He's a turbulent figure isn't he

[00:06:48] [SPEAKER_01]: In our kind of sharks history

[00:06:50] [SPEAKER_01]: Because he had a really bad first year

[00:06:51] [SPEAKER_01]: Great second year

[00:06:52] [SPEAKER_01]: Really turbulent third year right

[00:06:54] [SPEAKER_01]: So he's had some good moments

[00:06:56] [SPEAKER_01]: And we all enjoy him as the player that he is

[00:06:58] [SPEAKER_01]: Right because you see the guy that he's come

[00:07:00] [SPEAKER_01]: Into the league as the flashy number little

[00:07:03] [SPEAKER_01]: Seven and then see what he's developed into now

[00:07:06] [SPEAKER_01]: And you got to respect a lot of the things that he's done

[00:07:08] [SPEAKER_01]: In the game, he's one of the entertainers

[00:07:09] [SPEAKER_01]: Very similar in nature to Benji Marshall really

[00:07:11] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah for sure I mean

[00:07:12] [SPEAKER_04]: I felt like the end was a bit sour

[00:07:16] [SPEAKER_04]: Nothing dramatically bad

[00:07:18] [SPEAKER_04]: Like I didn't turn from love to hate on the guy

[00:07:21] [SPEAKER_04]: But it was a little bit sour

[00:07:23] [SPEAKER_04]: And that left a slight

[00:07:25] [SPEAKER_04]: Bit of taste in my mouth

[00:07:26] [SPEAKER_04]: But yeah absolute champion of the game

[00:07:28] [SPEAKER_04]: Has done most things other than the obvious one

[00:07:31] [SPEAKER_04]: And I think that the sharks will

[00:07:33] [SPEAKER_04]: Send him out

[00:07:34] [SPEAKER_04]: You know when it was a draw they'll send him out

[00:07:37] [SPEAKER_04]: With a bit of a celebration at the end of the game

[00:07:40] [SPEAKER_04]: I'd be surprised and disappointed if they didn't

[00:07:42] [SPEAKER_04]: Obviously there'll be a focus on our guys

[00:07:44] [SPEAKER_04]: It might be our last home game

[00:07:45] [SPEAKER_04]: You would think for the year

[00:07:46] [SPEAKER_04]: But I think they've got something in special

[00:07:49] [SPEAKER_04]: For SJ, it might be the ball

[00:07:51] [SPEAKER_04]: It might be a lap of honour

[00:07:54] [SPEAKER_04]: I don't know

[00:07:54] [SPEAKER_04]: But I feel like given the three years he gave us

[00:07:58] [SPEAKER_04]: That'll be something to celebrate

[00:07:59] [SPEAKER_04]: But yeah a danger game next week

[00:08:01] [SPEAKER_04]: We'll get into the run home

[00:08:03] [SPEAKER_04]: But what did you make

[00:08:05] [SPEAKER_04]: Of the Knights game

[00:08:06] [SPEAKER_04]: It was positive and negative

[00:08:09] [SPEAKER_04]: There for me

[00:08:10] [SPEAKER_04]: It was a Dower game

[00:08:13] [SPEAKER_04]: Started brilliantly, took the foot off

[00:08:14] [SPEAKER_04]: Let them back in for the majority of the game

[00:08:17] [SPEAKER_04]: Came home with a wet sail

[00:08:19] [SPEAKER_04]: Last ten minutes was great

[00:08:20] [SPEAKER_04]: Golden point, pretty good

[00:08:21] [SPEAKER_04]: Did the positives outweigh the negatives for you

[00:08:24] [SPEAKER_04]: Or was it a bit of a lull or what did you think

[00:08:26] [SPEAKER_01]: You take as many positives away as you can

[00:08:28] [SPEAKER_01]: And you also learn from what we came out with

[00:08:30] [SPEAKER_01]: Like you said the last ten minutes was great

[00:08:31] [SPEAKER_01]: Probably the first 15-20 minutes was pretty good as well

[00:08:34] [SPEAKER_01]: But I think what we learnt is our execution

[00:08:36] [SPEAKER_01]: Probably stinks with only one half out there

[00:08:38] [SPEAKER_01]: So that's what you kind of learn

[00:08:40] [SPEAKER_01]: Is the fact that in those tight nitty gritty games

[00:08:43] [SPEAKER_01]: Where teams haven't done much homework on you

[00:08:45] [SPEAKER_01]: And we're talking about the storm game

[00:08:47] [SPEAKER_01]: That was a big one where we kind of pulled their pants down

[00:08:49] [SPEAKER_01]: Because they didn't expect that style to play

[00:08:51] [SPEAKER_01]: That we're going to play with one half

[00:08:52] [SPEAKER_01]: And then McKinnis is more of a distributor

[00:08:54] [SPEAKER_01]: Braille defending on edge but really playing hooker

[00:08:56] [SPEAKER_01]: So we've played that kind of back-to-back weeks now

[00:09:00] [SPEAKER_01]: But I think their newcastle found it out

[00:09:02] [SPEAKER_01]: Because they've had two games to actually study what they're doing

[00:09:04] [SPEAKER_01]: So we can't bring that into the Dragons game anymore

[00:09:06] [SPEAKER_01]: Because the fact is we've had three games

[00:09:08] [SPEAKER_01]: And they're going to find us out with one rookie

[00:09:10] [SPEAKER_01]: Half back in there

[00:09:11] [SPEAKER_01]: So it makes sense, you know

[00:09:13] [SPEAKER_01]: Though I think Tricky could have probably played

[00:09:15] [SPEAKER_01]: At a pinch from kind of what you guys were saying

[00:09:17] [SPEAKER_01]: At training, if it was a semi he would probably

[00:09:18] [SPEAKER_04]: He looked close, yeah

[00:09:21] [SPEAKER_01]: So they probably rested him just getting back to 100%

[00:09:23] [SPEAKER_01]: Looks like he's right on course being named this week

[00:09:26] [SPEAKER_01]: Which was great, right?

[00:09:27] [SPEAKER_01]: Because effectively you're going to get

[00:09:29] [SPEAKER_01]: Your two halves back in there

[00:09:30] [SPEAKER_01]: You're going to get Cam back into 13

[00:09:32] [SPEAKER_01]: Properly, Blake back into 9 properly

[00:09:34] [SPEAKER_01]: And then, you know, Will's been great all year anyway

[00:09:37] [SPEAKER_01]: But we've effectively got a spine

[00:09:39] [SPEAKER_01]: That can really put some points on there as well

[00:09:41] [SPEAKER_01]: And the other game I missed was the Titans

[00:09:42] [SPEAKER_01]: Where, you know, all the boys just brained it that week

[00:09:45] [SPEAKER_01]: Right? And again, the Titans were very

[00:09:47] [SPEAKER_01]: Underprepared in terms of what we're going to throw at them

[00:09:49] [SPEAKER_01]: And we just pulled their pants down

[00:09:50] [SPEAKER_01]: Really, really well, but yeah

[00:09:52] [SPEAKER_01]: Just taking from a thing, I think the execution was really poor

[00:09:54] [SPEAKER_01]: I guess at times the handling was poor

[00:09:57] [SPEAKER_01]: But sometimes, like, you've got to

[00:09:58] [SPEAKER_01]: So you've got to look at Newcastle

[00:10:00] [SPEAKER_01]: Newcastle's got one of the best players in the game

[00:10:01] [SPEAKER_01]: In Catelyn Ponga, we kept him relatively quiet

[00:10:03] [SPEAKER_01]: Like, we've seen what he's done to us in the past

[00:10:06] [SPEAKER_01]: So they defended pretty well

[00:10:08] [SPEAKER_01]: Like any team that you can keep

[00:10:10] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, the Knights down to 18 points with Catelyn Ponga

[00:10:12] [SPEAKER_01]: In there, you're probably coming away pretty happy

[00:10:14] [SPEAKER_01]: Especially if you've taken them two points there, Sam

[00:10:16] [SPEAKER_04]: I thought Blake Brailey was outstanding

[00:10:18] [SPEAKER_04]: I don't know if enough people are talking about his game

[00:10:21] [SPEAKER_04]: From last week

[00:10:22] [SPEAKER_04]: I know he's a bit of a mixed figure for the fans

[00:10:26] [SPEAKER_04]: Some love him, some think he needs to do more

[00:10:28] [SPEAKER_04]: I thought last week he was really outstanding

[00:10:30] [SPEAKER_04]: We've seen when they're down a half

[00:10:32] [SPEAKER_04]: He usually steps up

[00:10:34] [SPEAKER_04]: I don't quite know what he's going to have to do

[00:10:36] [SPEAKER_04]: When the spine is back to normal

[00:10:38] [SPEAKER_04]: For him to keep that consistency and that confidence

[00:10:40] [SPEAKER_04]: But I absolutely love the way he played last week

[00:10:43] [SPEAKER_01]: Absolutely

[00:10:44] [SPEAKER_01]: Just imagine next year, like, you know

[00:10:45] [SPEAKER_01]: I mentioned Adam Fanuil, Blake before there, Sam

[00:10:47] [SPEAKER_01]: Like, he's the type of front-roller that I think

[00:10:50] [SPEAKER_01]: Blake's going to get a lot of quick play the balls

[00:10:52] [SPEAKER_01]: From, and I think he's going to get the go-forward

[00:10:54] [SPEAKER_01]: Going there as well

[00:10:55] [SPEAKER_01]: But in saying that, like, I thought Tobi Rudolph

[00:10:57] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, I know on the group, we've got a group chat here

[00:10:59] [SPEAKER_01]: On CharCast, and you know, after that Bulldogs loss

[00:11:02] [SPEAKER_01]: I know the group chat was going

[00:11:04] [SPEAKER_01]: Absolutely bananas for Tobi Rudolph's head, right

[00:11:06] [SPEAKER_01]: So, but I'll tell you what

[00:11:08] [SPEAKER_01]: But in the last four weeks, he has been incredible

[00:11:11] [SPEAKER_01]: Really incredible

[00:11:12] [SPEAKER_01]: He's back to kind of the best form that really got him

[00:11:14] [SPEAKER_01]: That fat contract from a couple years ago

[00:11:16] [SPEAKER_01]: I've been super impressed with what Tobi's bringing

[00:11:18] [SPEAKER_01]: Looks fit again, I don't know if they've been working on

[00:11:20] [SPEAKER_01]: A little bit of his fitness game behind the scenes

[00:11:22] [SPEAKER_01]: Or anything like that, but he definitely does look a lot fit

[00:11:24] [SPEAKER_01]: Oregon Confuci, I think, is going right

[00:11:26] [SPEAKER_01]: Right out into the radar, can play big minutes

[00:11:28] [SPEAKER_01]: Takes tough carries now

[00:11:30] [SPEAKER_01]: And just really holds his own there

[00:11:31] [SPEAKER_01]: Is a true starting prop now that I think people

[00:11:34] [SPEAKER_01]: Just don't realize how good he actually is

[00:11:36] [SPEAKER_01]: Love Royce Hunt on the bench

[00:11:37] [SPEAKER_01]: I really do think that he's destructive

[00:11:39] [SPEAKER_01]: You don't have to play in that long 30 minutes

[00:11:41] [SPEAKER_01]: That's all he needs, and he just comes on, rips in

[00:11:43] [SPEAKER_01]: And then just gets off, great to see Tommy Hazelman

[00:11:46] [SPEAKER_01]: I think it was Josh that mentioned that

[00:11:48] [SPEAKER_01]: He needed a bit of a break

[00:11:49] [SPEAKER_01]: And he literally got a break the week after

[00:11:51] [SPEAKER_01]: Which I thought he did really, really well

[00:11:53] [SPEAKER_01]: To, you know, sorry, Fitz did really well

[00:11:55] [SPEAKER_01]: To rest him, and then he came back at a blinder

[00:11:57] [SPEAKER_01]: I think unfortunately he had to flew from memory last week

[00:12:00] [SPEAKER_01]: Sam, and then he's back

[00:12:02] [SPEAKER_01]: And we do need him because he brings that pop off the bench

[00:12:04] [SPEAKER_01]: Him and Royce are together

[00:12:05] [SPEAKER_01]: Love Jack Williams, I love what he's done for the team

[00:12:08] [SPEAKER_01]: Over the last two weeks

[00:12:09] [SPEAKER_01]: Because he's played in multiple positions

[00:12:12] [SPEAKER_01]: Did his job, he's a real team guy

[00:12:14] [SPEAKER_01]: And same thing, he's been one of the best

[00:12:15] [SPEAKER_01]: In-and-Change forwards in the NRL

[00:12:16] [SPEAKER_01]: So I think that's a massive thing, Braden as well

[00:12:19] [SPEAKER_01]: Braden is at the moment you can tell he's not 100%

[00:12:21] [SPEAKER_01]: But that 20 minutes that he comes on

[00:12:23] [SPEAKER_01]: It's a great 20 minutes

[00:12:24] [SPEAKER_01]: And then, yeah, I'll have our bench this week

[00:12:26] [SPEAKER_01]: I think it's the biggest difference between the two teams

[00:12:29] [SPEAKER_01]: Is not what, if we hold them in the first 20 minutes

[00:12:32] [SPEAKER_01]: They're in a lot of trouble because their bench is not our bench

[00:12:34] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, yeah, I had Starby Week we should point out

[00:12:37] [SPEAKER_04]: And it's exciting week as always

[00:12:39] [SPEAKER_04]: And it's going to be a tough one, but you're right

[00:12:41] [SPEAKER_04]: If we start that well, I feel confident we can go on with it

[00:12:44] [SPEAKER_04]: Especially with Trindleback, hopefully, you know, he's been named

[00:12:46] [SPEAKER_04]: What did you make of the Golden Point fiasco

[00:12:50] [SPEAKER_04]: Drop goals and that kind of thing, the field goals

[00:12:52] [SPEAKER_04]: As we say in Roachby League

[00:12:54] [SPEAKER_04]: Now, as far as I know, the officials were officiating

[00:12:57] [SPEAKER_04]: The actual rule that they brought in

[00:13:00] [SPEAKER_04]: It's obviously one that needs to be a bit more flexible

[00:13:02] [SPEAKER_04]: Because, I mean, our players weren't obstructed

[00:13:07] [SPEAKER_04]: Trying to defend the field goal

[00:13:10] [SPEAKER_04]: And the other end, Ponganis ran into one of our guys

[00:13:13] [SPEAKER_04]: But did you comprehend what was going on?

[00:13:16] [SPEAKER_04]: What were your thoughts?

[00:13:17] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's a hard one to say because it's one of those rules

[00:13:19] [SPEAKER_01]: That doesn't come into play very often at all

[00:13:22] [SPEAKER_01]: Like, it comes into play once every five rounds

[00:13:26] [SPEAKER_01]: Or something, like it's not one of those common things

[00:13:28] [SPEAKER_01]: That you're going to see every single game

[00:13:31] [SPEAKER_01]: Game in, game out

[00:13:32] [SPEAKER_01]: So the rules there, right?

[00:13:34] [SPEAKER_01]: And I guess it was a weird one because I remember

[00:13:37] [SPEAKER_01]: Back to the Bulldogs when Nico missed it from right in front

[00:13:39] [SPEAKER_01]: When Siffer went through, probably went way too far

[00:13:41] [SPEAKER_01]: Unfortunately just trying to score a try, right?

[00:13:44] [SPEAKER_01]: And then that left Nico a little bit stranded

[00:13:45] [SPEAKER_01]: On around the 12-meter mark

[00:13:48] [SPEAKER_01]: Where essentially he did miss

[00:13:49] [SPEAKER_01]: But from the referee's audio

[00:13:51] [SPEAKER_01]: I think they were going to say it was going to be a penalty anyway

[00:13:53] [SPEAKER_01]: Against Cronulla because of the blockers

[00:13:56] [SPEAKER_01]: So essentially, I think like it just hasn't come up enough

[00:14:00] [SPEAKER_01]: But essentially they're just refereeing the rules

[00:14:01] [SPEAKER_01]: Like, I guess the biggest thing is

[00:14:03] [SPEAKER_01]: How do they police it, right?

[00:14:05] [SPEAKER_01]: Because there's a lot of different things that you can kind of

[00:14:07] [SPEAKER_01]: Diagnose here, right?

[00:14:08] [SPEAKER_01]: Like, other defenders on site, are the markers square

[00:14:11] [SPEAKER_01]: That's probably the first thing

[00:14:12] [SPEAKER_01]: First then are the blockers in

[00:14:14] [SPEAKER_01]: So there's a lot to kind of diagnose here, Sam

[00:14:17] [SPEAKER_01]: Plus how we grew up too, Sam

[00:14:19] [SPEAKER_01]: We grew up in the same sort of era

[00:14:20] [SPEAKER_01]: In that kind of late 80s, 90s period

[00:14:23] [SPEAKER_01]: And when you wanted to go for field goal

[00:14:25] [SPEAKER_01]: You literally put a wall in front of them, right?

[00:14:27] [SPEAKER_03]: That's right

[00:14:28] [SPEAKER_01]: How many times have you actually kicked a field goal

[00:14:30] [SPEAKER_01]: With like six players standing in front of it?

[00:14:31] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah

[00:14:33] [SPEAKER_04]: I'm all for the defender having a fair shot

[00:14:36] [SPEAKER_04]: Because I do think it's kind of too easy

[00:14:38] [SPEAKER_04]: To kick a field goal most

[00:14:40] [SPEAKER_04]: In most circumstances

[00:14:42] [SPEAKER_04]: But like I think the rule needs to be

[00:14:44] [SPEAKER_04]: A little bit flexible like in the case

[00:14:46] [SPEAKER_04]: Of the Newcastle attempt

[00:14:49] [SPEAKER_04]: I thought that even though he missed

[00:14:51] [SPEAKER_04]: If that had gone through

[00:14:53] [SPEAKER_04]: I would have been able to live with that

[00:14:55] [SPEAKER_04]: To be perfectly honest

[00:14:56] [SPEAKER_01]: Did you see what Oregon did?

[00:14:58] [SPEAKER_01]: But he ran all the way through

[00:15:00] [SPEAKER_04]: He ended up in the golf course, it was hilarious

[00:15:02] [SPEAKER_04]: He did

[00:15:03] [SPEAKER_04]: I didn't notice till watching it

[00:15:06] [SPEAKER_04]: At home that night

[00:15:08] [SPEAKER_04]: And I'd heard about the

[00:15:11] [SPEAKER_04]: Controversy and understood

[00:15:12] [SPEAKER_04]: Because that being at the game was a little bit

[00:15:13] [SPEAKER_04]: A little bit murky

[00:15:15] [SPEAKER_04]: Watching the replay I was like

[00:15:16] [SPEAKER_04]: Where the hell's Oregon going?

[00:15:18] [SPEAKER_04]: And he must have realized

[00:15:19] [SPEAKER_04]: He was in the wrong spot

[00:15:20] [SPEAKER_04]: He just ran

[00:15:21] [SPEAKER_04]: I had some down time chat

[00:15:24] [SPEAKER_04]: With the coach today off record

[00:15:25] [SPEAKER_04]: Just you know, hey how's it going

[00:15:26] [SPEAKER_04]: A few chats

[00:15:27] [SPEAKER_04]: And he was talking about that

[00:15:29] [SPEAKER_04]: And he was sort of

[00:15:30] [SPEAKER_04]: Very sympathetic to the referees

[00:15:32] [SPEAKER_04]: He was very sympathetic to Newcastle

[00:15:34] [SPEAKER_04]: He said he'd spoken to the coach and everything

[00:15:36] [SPEAKER_04]: But he was talking about Oregon

[00:15:38] [SPEAKER_04]: And I was like where was Oregon going?

[00:15:39] [SPEAKER_04]: He goes well he just knew he had to keep running

[00:15:41] [SPEAKER_04]: He kept running

[00:15:43] [SPEAKER_04]: Did the right thing I guess

[00:15:44] [SPEAKER_04]: And then pull it back

[00:15:47] [SPEAKER_04]: But you know, I thought

[00:15:49] [SPEAKER_04]: The big positive from that game TK

[00:15:51] [SPEAKER_04]: Was it was a real semi-final vibe

[00:15:53] [SPEAKER_04]: Like I know the quality of the game

[00:15:55] [SPEAKER_04]: Wasn't as you know 10 out of 10

[00:15:57] [SPEAKER_04]: The quality was quite low

[00:15:58] [SPEAKER_04]: In a lot of areas

[00:16:00] [SPEAKER_04]: But it was close

[00:16:02] [SPEAKER_04]: It was physical

[00:16:03] [SPEAKER_04]: You know crazy conditions with the wind

[00:16:05] [SPEAKER_04]: And we somehow

[00:16:07] [SPEAKER_04]: Not somehow we earned our way back into the game

[00:16:10] [SPEAKER_04]: And we won I think that's a good sign

[00:16:12] [SPEAKER_04]: For the 2024 team

[00:16:13] [SPEAKER_01]: How weird was it Sam being up 10-0

[00:16:16] [SPEAKER_01]: After 7 minutes after all the kind of

[00:16:18] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, we're always behind by 3 tries

[00:16:20] [SPEAKER_01]: After 20 and it's just a very unusual feeling

[00:16:22] [SPEAKER_04]: I really thought they were going to go on with it

[00:16:24] [SPEAKER_04]: I thought this is so easy

[00:16:25] [SPEAKER_04]: Because I was watching from a good height

[00:16:27] [SPEAKER_04]: And I was like man this is a walk in the park

[00:16:30] [SPEAKER_04]: This is Titans part 2

[00:16:31] [SPEAKER_04]: Like it really was

[00:16:33] [SPEAKER_04]: And then I spoke to some of the players today

[00:16:36] [SPEAKER_04]: And we're going to run some interviews

[00:16:37] [SPEAKER_04]: In the next few days about it

[00:16:38] [SPEAKER_04]: But I sort of said what happened like

[00:16:39] [SPEAKER_04]: How did you take your foot off

[00:16:41] [SPEAKER_04]: And stop playing that way

[00:16:43] [SPEAKER_04]: And they had different reasons you know

[00:16:44] [SPEAKER_04]: Circumstance, eros, etc

[00:16:47] [SPEAKER_04]: But yeah just as a fan you're watching it going

[00:16:49] [SPEAKER_04]: You had the perfect start

[00:16:52] [SPEAKER_04]: Newcastle are not doing much

[00:16:55] [SPEAKER_04]: Now they're winning by 8

[00:16:56] [SPEAKER_04]: It's like what's happening here

[00:16:58] [SPEAKER_04]: So the only time I thought the game was gone

[00:17:03] [SPEAKER_04]: Was probably around the

[00:17:05] [SPEAKER_04]: 70 minute mark before we scored

[00:17:08] [SPEAKER_04]: Because before we got the penalty goal

[00:17:10] [SPEAKER_04]: Around that time just before that

[00:17:12] [SPEAKER_04]: I was like it's getting a bit late

[00:17:13] [SPEAKER_04]: In these conditions to score twice so to speak

[00:17:16] [SPEAKER_04]: But the team went for the 2 points

[00:17:19] [SPEAKER_04]: Got that and then obviously the try

[00:17:21] [SPEAKER_04]: Dan Atkinson man, the Iceman

[00:17:23] [SPEAKER_04]: He is so calm as a player

[00:17:26] [SPEAKER_04]: I've really grown to love watching him play

[00:17:28] [SPEAKER_04]: Let's get into it

[00:17:29] [SPEAKER_04]: Do you think that he

[00:17:31] [SPEAKER_04]: Can find his way into the 17

[00:17:33] [SPEAKER_04]: Or do you think he just gets back to number 18

[00:17:36] [SPEAKER_01]: I think he's number 6

[00:17:37] [SPEAKER_01]: I think when Nico comes back

[00:17:41] [SPEAKER_01]: Bum shell

[00:17:43] [SPEAKER_01]: I've got to give credit to Jars

[00:17:44] [SPEAKER_01]: Jars started this in the group chat

[00:17:46] [SPEAKER_01]: Then I backed him up

[00:17:47] [SPEAKER_01]: Some of the other boys had a couple of different theories

[00:17:50] [SPEAKER_01]: Which is also awesome

[00:17:52] [SPEAKER_01]: Because obviously we can just chat it out

[00:17:53] [SPEAKER_01]: But Dan what I don't like about Nico

[00:17:56] [SPEAKER_01]: And also Tricky together

[00:17:57] [SPEAKER_01]: They both want the ball so much

[00:17:58] [SPEAKER_01]: They're both pure number 7s

[00:18:03] [SPEAKER_01]: And I think that when Nico plays his best football

[00:18:05] [SPEAKER_01]: When he's kicking a lot

[00:18:06] [SPEAKER_01]: When he's touching the ball a lot

[00:18:07] [SPEAKER_01]: And what I was finding when Tricky came back

[00:18:10] [SPEAKER_01]: That was kind of

[00:18:11] [SPEAKER_01]: He was just kind of parming it off

[00:18:13] [SPEAKER_01]: And that's why his confidence was waning

[00:18:15] [SPEAKER_01]: A little bit there as well

[00:18:17] [SPEAKER_01]: So the thing with Aco

[00:18:18] [SPEAKER_01]: He's so...

[00:18:20] [SPEAKER_01]: What's the word for it here Sam?

[00:18:22] [SPEAKER_01]: He's just not selfish

[00:18:23] [SPEAKER_01]: I think he knows how to play his role

[00:18:28] [SPEAKER_01]: Like if they need him to step up

[00:18:30] [SPEAKER_01]: And be the big number 7

[00:18:31] [SPEAKER_01]: He's done it for the last 2 weeks

[00:18:33] [SPEAKER_01]: But in any scenario

[00:18:35] [SPEAKER_01]: If the coach gives him the game plan

[00:18:37] [SPEAKER_01]: You just come in

[00:18:40] [SPEAKER_01]: When Nico needs you to come in

[00:18:41] [SPEAKER_01]: Or when you kind of see some eyes up stuff

[00:18:43] [SPEAKER_01]: That's what he did really well

[00:18:45] [SPEAKER_01]: When Tricky was out

[00:18:48] [SPEAKER_01]: Like we're right around

[00:18:49] [SPEAKER_01]: When Tricky was kind of stood down

[00:18:51] [SPEAKER_01]: Into that magic round period

[00:18:54] [SPEAKER_01]: Aco was playing number 6

[00:18:56] [SPEAKER_01]: And he was just playing off the cuff

[00:18:58] [SPEAKER_01]: With Nico

[00:18:58] [SPEAKER_01]: And Nico was doing literally all the playmaking

[00:19:01] [SPEAKER_01]: And that was just a great half

[00:19:04] [SPEAKER_01]: Pairing because essentially

[00:19:05] [SPEAKER_01]: You had one on ball, one off ball

[00:19:07] [SPEAKER_01]: But you had the second guy know when he had to

[00:19:09] [SPEAKER_01]: Step up and make plays there as well

[00:19:11] [SPEAKER_01]: I like them as a combination

[00:19:12] [SPEAKER_01]: Unfortunately for Tricky because Tricky's

[00:19:14] [SPEAKER_01]: What I love about Tricky is an effort there at player

[00:19:17] [SPEAKER_01]: Like you can sell every single inch

[00:19:19] [SPEAKER_01]: That he is putting into the game

[00:19:21] [SPEAKER_01]: Obviously he's not that fast

[00:19:22] [SPEAKER_01]: But he's running on a treadmill nearly

[00:19:25] [SPEAKER_01]: But at 100 miles an hour right

[00:19:27] [SPEAKER_01]: But you see it all

[00:19:28] [SPEAKER_01]: And then when he tries to defend he's not the best defender

[00:19:30] [SPEAKER_01]: But he puts all his body weight

[00:19:32] [SPEAKER_01]: He's not huge and that's the difference between him

[00:19:35] [SPEAKER_01]: And Nico like at times you don't know

[00:19:36] [SPEAKER_01]: If Nico is trying because he's just a natural guy

[00:19:39] [SPEAKER_01]: Right? He's this athlete

[00:19:41] [SPEAKER_01]: Big tall guy

[00:19:42] [SPEAKER_01]: He's fast, he's good looking

[00:19:44] [SPEAKER_01]: So you kind of get put off by some of the stuff

[00:19:46] [SPEAKER_01]: That he does but realistically he's not an effort player

[00:19:49] [SPEAKER_01]: Like Tricky is but

[00:19:51] [SPEAKER_01]: Tricky's not an elite

[00:19:52] [SPEAKER_01]: Ball playing player like Nico is

[00:19:54] [SPEAKER_01]: And in the semi-finals

[00:19:55] [SPEAKER_01]: Nico is our main man unfortunately Tricky's not

[00:19:58] [SPEAKER_01]: The way our bench is structured as well

[00:20:00] [SPEAKER_01]: With Siffer being able to cover so many positions

[00:20:03] [SPEAKER_01]: We can't carry one on the bench

[00:20:05] [SPEAKER_01]: Because essentially

[00:20:06] [SPEAKER_01]: Our biggest strength is because

[00:20:08] [SPEAKER_01]: When Siffer's fit

[00:20:10] [SPEAKER_01]: Not only can we carry three middles

[00:20:11] [SPEAKER_01]: We can carry Siffer as well

[00:20:13] [SPEAKER_01]: And that's our big advantage over everyone

[00:20:15] [SPEAKER_01]: So we don't need a half on the bench

[00:20:16] [SPEAKER_01]: Unfortunately whoever doesn't get the jersey

[00:20:19] [SPEAKER_01]: I think is going to be number 18

[00:20:20] [SPEAKER_04]: Well I get the feeling and it's only an opinion

[00:20:22] [SPEAKER_04]: That at this stage

[00:20:25] [SPEAKER_04]: It's going to be Trindle and Hines

[00:20:27] [SPEAKER_04]: That's just the vibe I get

[00:20:29] [SPEAKER_04]: And that's not a shock

[00:20:31] [SPEAKER_04]: However

[00:20:32] [SPEAKER_04]: I cannot go past Dan Atkinson

[00:20:35] [SPEAKER_04]: For everything he's done

[00:20:36] [SPEAKER_04]: The coolness which he's done it

[00:20:38] [SPEAKER_04]: He's barely missed the conversion

[00:20:40] [SPEAKER_04]: He's gotten in Melbourne

[00:20:42] [SPEAKER_04]: And in last weekends of the night

[00:20:45] [SPEAKER_04]: Crucial sideline conversions

[00:20:47] [SPEAKER_04]: Then crucial game winning field goals

[00:20:51] [SPEAKER_04]: And

[00:20:52] [SPEAKER_04]: That stuff that you just can't

[00:20:54] [SPEAKER_04]: You can't just sort of go hey thanks for your efforts

[00:20:57] [SPEAKER_04]: Now go sit on the bench and wait for a concussion

[00:21:00] [SPEAKER_04]: True

[00:21:00] [SPEAKER_04]: In finals as you said

[00:21:03] [SPEAKER_04]: We need people to step up

[00:21:05] [SPEAKER_04]: The problem I have

[00:21:07] [SPEAKER_04]: With that with what I'm saying

[00:21:08] [SPEAKER_04]: Arguing it's myself is that Trindle

[00:21:11] [SPEAKER_04]: Really hasn't done anything wrong

[00:21:12] [SPEAKER_04]: Like he himself has stepped up

[00:21:15] [SPEAKER_04]: At times

[00:21:16] [SPEAKER_04]: He himself has been crucial in game winning situations

[00:21:19] [SPEAKER_04]: But it's at a different kind of level

[00:21:23] [SPEAKER_04]: With Atkinson I'm probably going to

[00:21:25] [SPEAKER_04]: Give him my life to gamble on

[00:21:27] [SPEAKER_04]: With Trindle

[00:21:28] [SPEAKER_04]: To be fair even with Miko

[00:21:30] [SPEAKER_04]: I'm probably not

[00:21:31] [SPEAKER_04]: So I just don't know how you

[00:21:35] [SPEAKER_04]: Kind of take that out of a team

[00:21:37] [SPEAKER_01]: Sam we've got a very conservative coach too

[00:21:39] [SPEAKER_01]: So

[00:21:41] [SPEAKER_01]: It took him a long time

[00:21:42] [SPEAKER_01]: To get rid of Matt Moylan for tricky

[00:21:44] [SPEAKER_01]: Right

[00:21:45] [SPEAKER_01]: And he talked about wanting

[00:21:47] [SPEAKER_01]: Trindle and Hines to

[00:21:49] [SPEAKER_01]: Obviously develop over a period of time

[00:21:51] [SPEAKER_01]: So I think you do make a good point that the fact that

[00:21:54] [SPEAKER_01]: They are the starting halves

[00:21:56] [SPEAKER_01]: They're the halves that started the season

[00:21:58] [SPEAKER_01]: Until Niko got injured

[00:21:59] [SPEAKER_01]: They were the starting halves there as well

[00:22:01] [SPEAKER_01]: Right

[00:22:03] [SPEAKER_01]: But I do think at times

[00:22:05] [SPEAKER_01]: There's going to be

[00:22:06] [SPEAKER_01]: On-fits to make a big call

[00:22:09] [SPEAKER_01]: To actually make a big run into the finals

[00:22:11] [SPEAKER_01]: Like

[00:22:13] [SPEAKER_01]: It's one of those things that

[00:22:14] [SPEAKER_01]: Is this the call that he has to make

[00:22:16] [SPEAKER_01]: Like it's not make a break for Fitzgiven's career

[00:22:19] [SPEAKER_01]: Like he's had, this is his third year

[00:22:21] [SPEAKER_01]: And very successful and what he's doing

[00:22:23] [SPEAKER_01]: There's no doubt there's some targeted recruiting

[00:22:25] [SPEAKER_01]: In Adam Fanuil Blake that will take us

[00:22:27] [SPEAKER_01]: Into the next level as well

[00:22:28] [SPEAKER_01]: So I do think that

[00:22:30] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm feeling this is like our 15 season

[00:22:32] [SPEAKER_01]: Sam, like compared to if I'm looking at

[00:22:35] [SPEAKER_01]: Kind of a premiership run

[00:22:36] [SPEAKER_01]: Like the 15 team had a really good shot at it

[00:22:39] [SPEAKER_01]: But they'll probably

[00:22:40] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, one player or two players

[00:22:42] [SPEAKER_01]: Short of actually taking up that next level

[00:22:44] [SPEAKER_01]: And I do think that given

[00:22:46] [SPEAKER_01]: The scenario of pretty much the entire squad

[00:22:48] [SPEAKER_01]: But maybe Royce Hunt's staying with us next year

[00:22:50] [SPEAKER_01]: He replaced Royce Hunt with

[00:22:52] [SPEAKER_01]: Adam Fanuil Blake with respect to Royce

[00:22:54] [SPEAKER_01]: Adam Fanuil Blake is, he's not the best prop

[00:22:56] [SPEAKER_01]: In the game to Haas, him, those two

[00:22:58] [SPEAKER_01]: Or one and two on the weekly right

[00:23:00] [SPEAKER_01]: So we get the

[00:23:02] [SPEAKER_01]: One and two, one of the best two props

[00:23:04] [SPEAKER_01]: In the game, so you can't say that

[00:23:06] [SPEAKER_01]: Royce has done great off the bench but he's not Adam Fanuil Blake

[00:23:08] [SPEAKER_01]: So you'd say that maybe next year is our 16

[00:23:10] [SPEAKER_01]: Year that we can have a really good run at it

[00:23:12] [SPEAKER_01]: But sometimes you just kind of

[00:23:14] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, gotta have a little

[00:23:16] [SPEAKER_01]: Look at it and I hope he does give

[00:23:18] [SPEAKER_01]: Our chance because for an inexperienced half

[00:23:20] [SPEAKER_01]: Sam like what you just described

[00:23:22] [SPEAKER_01]: What he did like he took that ball back nearly

[00:23:24] [SPEAKER_01]: 30 meters last week on that touch

[00:23:26] [SPEAKER_01]: Line. So by the time he kicked the ball

[00:23:28] [SPEAKER_01]: That would have been what a 55

[00:23:30] [SPEAKER_01]: 56 meter kick

[00:23:32] [SPEAKER_04]: Even the one and a half time

[00:23:33] [SPEAKER_04]: He hit the post in horrific conditions

[00:23:36] [SPEAKER_04]: Everything I see about him is just

[00:23:39] [SPEAKER_04]: It's not elite, it's more

[00:23:40] [SPEAKER_04]: It's more clutch, he's a clutch player

[00:23:43] [SPEAKER_04]: The first try of the solo individual

[00:23:45] [SPEAKER_04]: Try like okay you've seen better tries

[00:23:47] [SPEAKER_04]: But it was a great effort

[00:23:48] [SPEAKER_04]: And then he set up

[00:23:49] [SPEAKER_04]: The try for Nickerah

[00:23:51] [SPEAKER_04]: I thought he had a great game

[00:23:53] [SPEAKER_04]: I mean he's green but it's not like

[00:23:55] [SPEAKER_04]: He's making that many errors

[00:23:57] [SPEAKER_04]: I don't think he's playing lights out for the whole game

[00:23:59] [SPEAKER_04]: But when you need him he's there

[00:24:01] [SPEAKER_04]: And I just

[00:24:03] [SPEAKER_04]: It's gonna be fascinating to see what happens

[00:24:05] [SPEAKER_04]: Is there any way

[00:24:07] [SPEAKER_04]: If you tinker with that bench and you call

[00:24:09] [SPEAKER_04]: Siffer a middle for whatever reason

[00:24:11] [SPEAKER_04]: Can you drop anyone else

[00:24:13] [SPEAKER_04]: And have in your team

[00:24:15] [SPEAKER_04]: Have Atkinson as 17 or not

[00:24:17] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think the best bet for him getting

[00:24:19] [SPEAKER_01]: In would be if T. Wilton does not

[00:24:21] [SPEAKER_01]: Come back healthy like because

[00:24:23] [SPEAKER_01]: Ever since I think it's the paramatter game where

[00:24:25] [SPEAKER_01]: T. Diddy's shoulder he definitely has not

[00:24:27] [SPEAKER_01]: Been the same player he's been in and out of first

[00:24:29] [SPEAKER_01]: Crate every single week kind of nursing that shoulder

[00:24:31] [SPEAKER_01]: I think he might have had a H. I.

[00:24:33] [SPEAKER_01]: At one point there as well from memory

[00:24:35] [SPEAKER_01]: But he hasn't really been that great

[00:24:36] [SPEAKER_01]: He had a good start of the season right that first

[00:24:39] [SPEAKER_01]: 13 games was fantastic but

[00:24:41] [SPEAKER_01]: I guess he's back on the weekend now we'll see how

[00:24:43] [SPEAKER_01]: He goes he didn't he missed the last few games

[00:24:45] [SPEAKER_01]: Right so there's no doubt that

[00:24:47] [SPEAKER_01]: He's carrying something so

[00:24:49] [SPEAKER_01]: If there was a season ending injury there to

[00:24:51] [SPEAKER_01]: T. Wilton you'd say that even Siffer

[00:24:53] [SPEAKER_01]: Kind of going neck and neck anyway like

[00:24:55] [SPEAKER_01]: Siffer's been great on an edge right like

[00:24:57] [SPEAKER_01]: He's kind of added such an element

[00:24:59] [SPEAKER_01]: To what the half

[00:25:01] [SPEAKER_01]: Can do on that side and

[00:25:03] [SPEAKER_01]: I know he misses a lot of tackles but most of these

[00:25:05] [SPEAKER_01]: Tackles he kind of rebounds people into

[00:25:07] [SPEAKER_01]: Other people anyway so it's not really

[00:25:09] [SPEAKER_01]: A missed tackle in his true sense

[00:25:11] [SPEAKER_01]: So yeah I think that's

[00:25:13] [SPEAKER_01]: Kind of where it's going to be because who do you

[00:25:15] [SPEAKER_01]: Reconcept so Jack Williams definitely is one of the

[00:25:17] [SPEAKER_04]: Bench players right yeah

[00:25:19] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah he's been he has to be and then

[00:25:22] [SPEAKER_01]: Tom big Tom has to be one

[00:25:23] [SPEAKER_04]: Just for this year if they're all fit

[00:25:26] [SPEAKER_04]: I'm going to get rid of Tuku as a possibility

[00:25:28] [SPEAKER_04]: And then it gets a bit hazy

[00:25:30] [SPEAKER_04]: But sorry for the pun

[00:25:32] [SPEAKER_04]: Hazelton I want him there

[00:25:34] [SPEAKER_04]: I just don't know if I'm going to

[00:25:36] [SPEAKER_04]: You know replace him with someone else

[00:25:38] [SPEAKER_04]: Because Jack Williams is there

[00:25:40] [SPEAKER_04]: Royce Hunts in career best form

[00:25:42] [SPEAKER_01]: And Braden needs a spot too

[00:25:44] [SPEAKER_04]: And Braden I think

[00:25:46] [SPEAKER_04]: One of the reasons the coach sort of dances

[00:25:48] [SPEAKER_04]: Around the question which he's getting asked a lot

[00:25:50] [SPEAKER_04]: Now and he hints at it in one of his press

[00:25:53] [SPEAKER_04]: Conferences is that the team hasn't been healthy

[00:25:55] [SPEAKER_04]: Or gear it's not like they've had

[00:25:57] [SPEAKER_04]: I think even at the start of the year

[00:25:59] [SPEAKER_04]: All 17 guys that you would call

[00:26:00] [SPEAKER_04]: The 17 key guys they've never

[00:26:02] [SPEAKER_04]: Been fit together and I think he's assuming

[00:26:05] [SPEAKER_04]: Given the way that it's gone

[00:26:07] [SPEAKER_04]: It's not going to be that way to finish the year

[00:26:08] [SPEAKER_04]: So he can't say you know

[00:26:11] [SPEAKER_04]: Atkinson's going to be ruled out

[00:26:12] [SPEAKER_04]: He's going back to second grade or whatever

[00:26:14] [SPEAKER_04]: Because he's probably going to need him

[00:26:16] [SPEAKER_04]: To play somewhere given that

[00:26:18] [SPEAKER_04]: A middle might go down an edge might go down

[00:26:20] [SPEAKER_04]: It might move Sifra around

[00:26:21] [SPEAKER_04]: A half might go down etc

[00:26:24] [SPEAKER_04]: Like both halves have had terrible health years

[00:26:26] [SPEAKER_04]: So I think he's looking ahead

[00:26:28] [SPEAKER_04]: And going they're all going to be needed at some point

[00:26:31] [SPEAKER_04]: I'm not going to make some massive call now

[00:26:33] [SPEAKER_04]: And that may be the way it goes

[00:26:35] [SPEAKER_04]: I hope I'm wrong

[00:26:36] [SPEAKER_04]: I hope they're all fighting fit and healthy

[00:26:38] [SPEAKER_04]: And he has to make a hard choice

[00:26:40] [SPEAKER_04]: Because that would be the best for the club

[00:26:41] [SPEAKER_04]: I don't know how I have my 17 with Akko in it

[00:26:44] [SPEAKER_04]: I just think that he's worth his weight

[00:26:47] [SPEAKER_04]: You know he's sort of like

[00:26:49] [SPEAKER_04]: What Kona Tracy was but

[00:26:50] [SPEAKER_04]: Way more clutch and in different

[00:26:52] [SPEAKER_04]: Position as well so I'm not knocking Kona

[00:26:54] [SPEAKER_04]: But a different version of that

[00:26:57] [SPEAKER_04]: Where you couldn't kind of leave him out of the team

[00:26:59] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah it might be game scenario too right

[00:27:01] [SPEAKER_01]: Because different teams have different

[00:27:02] [SPEAKER_01]: Like look at the Bulldogs right

[00:27:04] [SPEAKER_01]: Much smaller pack of forwards that might be a game

[00:27:06] [SPEAKER_01]: Just say we play them in the semi finals

[00:27:08] [SPEAKER_01]: That he does go with a smaller bench

[00:27:10] [SPEAKER_01]: And then maybe Akko does find himself on the bench

[00:27:12] [SPEAKER_01]: They might go with like an Akko, Sifra

[00:27:15] [SPEAKER_01]: They go with Jack Williams

[00:27:16] [SPEAKER_01]: And then a big bopper

[00:27:18] [SPEAKER_01]: Because then essentially you can run

[00:27:19] [SPEAKER_01]: If you really wanted to you could put Akko

[00:27:21] [SPEAKER_01]: And Sifra and Jack Williams out there as a middle

[00:27:24] [SPEAKER_01]: Together if Canberra are running a small

[00:27:26] [SPEAKER_01]: Middle as well so it could be

[00:27:28] [SPEAKER_01]: We're in a very good position

[00:27:30] [SPEAKER_01]: So if Sifra and Hines

[00:27:32] [SPEAKER_01]: They play next week and we cop no injuries on Sunday

[00:27:34] [SPEAKER_01]: We're full strength

[00:27:36] [SPEAKER_04]: Do you think Hines is going to play next week

[00:27:38] [SPEAKER_01]: I hope so from like your reports saying that

[00:27:40] [SPEAKER_01]: He's in really good shape

[00:27:42] [SPEAKER_01]: I do think he needs to run before the finals

[00:27:44] [SPEAKER_01]: And if there's going to be one that you want to do it in

[00:27:47] [SPEAKER_01]: I'd rather him play at home

[00:27:49] [SPEAKER_01]: Next week against the Wires

[00:27:51] [SPEAKER_01]: And then yeah

[00:27:52] [SPEAKER_01]: Then they've got the Sunday Brookie

[00:27:54] [SPEAKER_01]: The weekend after so

[00:27:56] [SPEAKER_01]: You probably don't want to chuck him into a game

[00:27:58] [SPEAKER_01]: The Brookie game being his first I reckon

[00:28:00] [SPEAKER_01]: Because that could be a battle

[00:28:02] [SPEAKER_01]: For the top four if not

[00:28:05] [SPEAKER_01]: Manly season on the line as well

[00:28:06] [SPEAKER_01]: At a place that we don't relatively have

[00:28:08] [SPEAKER_01]: A great record in like if anything

[00:28:10] [SPEAKER_01]: I'd rather him play against the Wires and have a little rest

[00:28:12] [SPEAKER_01]: Against Manly

[00:28:13] [SPEAKER_04]: I'm hoping and I haven't studied the draw

[00:28:16] [SPEAKER_04]: But I'm hoping that

[00:28:17] [SPEAKER_04]: That the last game won't mean anything

[00:28:20] [SPEAKER_04]: I hope that we can rest everyone

[00:28:22] [SPEAKER_04]: I hope that I'm out there playing you know what I mean

[00:28:24] [SPEAKER_04]: Like I don't think that

[00:28:25] [SPEAKER_04]: I'd rather even with Miko like

[00:28:27] [SPEAKER_04]: He plays against the Warriors

[00:28:29] [SPEAKER_04]: Beautiful gets through it

[00:28:30] [SPEAKER_04]: And he's great

[00:28:32] [SPEAKER_04]: And for whatever reason we can't move

[00:28:34] [SPEAKER_04]: Or we don't want to move

[00:28:35] [SPEAKER_04]: Then just rest them all

[00:28:37] [SPEAKER_04]: Play whoever you want

[00:28:38] [SPEAKER_04]: The Manly game just you want to avoid

[00:28:41] [SPEAKER_04]: You want to avoid contact

[00:28:43] [SPEAKER_04]: I think the one thing Fitz will say

[00:28:45] [SPEAKER_04]: Is that the team

[00:28:47] [SPEAKER_04]: 1-17, the preferred team

[00:28:49] [SPEAKER_04]: Hasn't had a lot of time to gel this year

[00:28:51] [SPEAKER_04]: So he would probably go what are you talking about

[00:28:53] [SPEAKER_04]: We're going to go out there and get our combinations right

[00:28:54] [SPEAKER_04]: So depends who's looking at it

[00:28:56] [SPEAKER_04]: And how you're looking at it

[00:28:57] [SPEAKER_04]: But it's pretty fascinating last three weeks

[00:29:00] [SPEAKER_04]: Anything can happen it could go either way

[00:29:01] [SPEAKER_04]: We could drop down to fifth or sixth

[00:29:03] [SPEAKER_04]: We could finish as high as second

[00:29:05] [SPEAKER_04]: It just depends

[00:29:07] [SPEAKER_04]: Let me ask you this do you have a preference on

[00:29:10] [SPEAKER_04]: Who we play in week one

[00:29:12] [SPEAKER_01]: Interesting question

[00:29:13] [SPEAKER_01]: Like I don't

[00:29:14] [SPEAKER_01]: Because we've beaten both the Storm and Marustas

[00:29:17] [SPEAKER_01]: Like

[00:29:18] [SPEAKER_01]: I would fancy us to go out

[00:29:21] [SPEAKER_01]: Like I don't fear going to Melbourne

[00:29:23] [SPEAKER_01]: Like it is what it is we played really well in Melbourne

[00:29:25] [SPEAKER_01]: We played without Niko too

[00:29:27] [SPEAKER_01]: I know that they didn't have Jerome used that day

[00:29:29] [SPEAKER_01]: But same thing they had tried

[00:29:30] [SPEAKER_01]: We both have really good backups

[00:29:32] [SPEAKER_01]: So they had time to wish out

[00:29:34] [SPEAKER_01]: We had Akko and yeah

[00:29:36] [SPEAKER_01]: We brained them that day we pulled their pants down

[00:29:37] [SPEAKER_01]: And we played an 80 minute game and defensive juggernaut

[00:29:40] [SPEAKER_01]: That great try from Ronnie to Sifa

[00:29:42] [SPEAKER_01]: To really wrap it up

[00:29:44] [SPEAKER_01]: It's one of the best tries like we've ever seen

[00:29:46] [SPEAKER_01]: Right so I don't think we fear

[00:29:48] [SPEAKER_01]: I think the only team we do fear is Penrith

[00:29:50] [SPEAKER_01]: Like there is a little bit of a gap

[00:29:52] [SPEAKER_01]: There's just, I don't know when we were watching that game

[00:29:54] [SPEAKER_01]: Together Sam there was a mentality

[00:29:56] [SPEAKER_01]: They have a different mentality that we have

[00:29:58] [SPEAKER_01]: Not developed yet

[00:29:59] [SPEAKER_01]: And they've got levels

[00:30:01] [SPEAKER_01]: We don't have levels yet

[00:30:02] [SPEAKER_04]: How do you broach that this year then

[00:30:06] [SPEAKER_04]: Do you just say ok we'll play you in the grand final

[00:30:08] [SPEAKER_04]: And go for it or when do we play them

[00:30:11] [SPEAKER_01]: That's the thing I think you want to play them

[00:30:13] [SPEAKER_01]: When we're one of the finals

[00:30:14] [SPEAKER_01]: Because then you, because I think

[00:30:16] [SPEAKER_01]: You can only beat Penrith once

[00:30:18] [SPEAKER_01]: And if you're going to do it

[00:30:19] [SPEAKER_01]: You don't want it to be weak one of the finals

[00:30:22] [SPEAKER_01]: Because they're coming back at you

[00:30:23] [SPEAKER_01]: Because the fact of the matter is

[00:30:25] [SPEAKER_01]: Is that like they've got a very unhealthy squad right

[00:30:27] [SPEAKER_01]: So they might have

[00:30:29] [SPEAKER_01]: Like a weaker team for week one

[00:30:31] [SPEAKER_01]: And then all of a sudden you play them again in the grand final

[00:30:33] [SPEAKER_01]: And also the Clary's playing Sorenson's playing

[00:30:35] [SPEAKER_01]: Like they've got the whole deck playing right

[00:30:37] [SPEAKER_01]: So I wouldn't want to waste my win

[00:30:39] [SPEAKER_01]: Against Penrith in week one of the finals

[00:30:40] [SPEAKER_01]: Even if it makes, means going to the prelim

[00:30:43] [SPEAKER_01]: I would want to use the prelim

[00:30:45] [SPEAKER_01]: Or the grand final to beat Penrith

[00:30:46] [SPEAKER_01]: Because that means you have eliminated them

[00:30:49] [SPEAKER_04]: Do you think we're

[00:30:51] [SPEAKER_04]: In a realistic

[00:30:53] [SPEAKER_04]: Time frame of

[00:30:55] [SPEAKER_04]: Not catching up to them as far as titles go

[00:30:58] [SPEAKER_04]: But being on their level

[00:31:00] [SPEAKER_04]: Because I mean they're coming down a bit

[00:31:02] [SPEAKER_04]: I feel like we're rising each year

[00:31:05] [SPEAKER_04]: We're getting a premiere

[00:31:06] [SPEAKER_04]: Prop next year

[00:31:07] [SPEAKER_04]: A bunch of the guys will be at 100 games

[00:31:10] [SPEAKER_04]: If not more

[00:31:11] [SPEAKER_04]: With very similar team

[00:31:13] [SPEAKER_04]: Do you think we can, I can sort of see

[00:31:15] [SPEAKER_04]: All being well, I can see us rising

[00:31:17] [SPEAKER_04]: From here

[00:31:17] [SPEAKER_04]: Where we're not afraid of playing them

[00:31:20] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think so. I think

[00:31:21] [SPEAKER_01]: They've done a really good job at junior development

[00:31:24] [SPEAKER_01]: And for both teams

[00:31:25] [SPEAKER_01]: But I guess the biggest thing is when you have a lot of success

[00:31:28] [SPEAKER_01]: Sam, like your contracts start getting inflated

[00:31:30] [SPEAKER_01]: Right? And we've seen that

[00:31:32] [SPEAKER_01]: Like all of a sudden

[00:31:33] [SPEAKER_01]: Every year they're losing two or three marquee players

[00:31:36] [SPEAKER_01]: Like next year they lose

[00:31:37] [SPEAKER_01]: Dron Bluye, there's chatter about Brian Toho

[00:31:40] [SPEAKER_01]: Who wants an upgrade

[00:31:41] [SPEAKER_01]: Which essentially he probably could get at other clubs

[00:31:43] [SPEAKER_01]: Right? So there's that

[00:31:45] [SPEAKER_01]: And then yeah they lose James Fisher Harris

[00:31:48] [SPEAKER_01]: As well. So they're kind of losing two of their

[00:31:50] [SPEAKER_01]: Really big leaders next year

[00:31:52] [SPEAKER_01]: And that was on the back of them losing Villar

[00:31:54] [SPEAKER_01]: Kikau, they've lost Steven Crichton

[00:31:56] [SPEAKER_01]: It's all a heap of different players

[00:31:58] [SPEAKER_01]: Matt Burton, heaps of players, like marquee players

[00:32:00] [SPEAKER_01]: Right? They're not just like

[00:32:02] [SPEAKER_01]: Bums. Like these guys are some of the best

[00:32:04] [SPEAKER_01]: Players in the NRL at the moment. So

[00:32:06] [SPEAKER_01]: I think they'll just continue to do that

[00:32:08] [SPEAKER_01]: I think the biggest thing now is Nathan Cleary

[00:32:10] [SPEAKER_01]: In his body. It just does seem

[00:32:12] [SPEAKER_01]: To be deteriorating a little bit

[00:32:13] [SPEAKER_01]: Like came in, 18

[00:32:18] [SPEAKER_01]: So a lot of injuries this year

[00:32:19] [SPEAKER_01]: Doney's shoulder now and

[00:32:21] [SPEAKER_01]: Had that hammy issue which has kind of been

[00:32:23] [SPEAKER_01]: Nothing two or three times now over the last

[00:32:25] [SPEAKER_01]: 18 months there as well. So

[00:32:27] [SPEAKER_01]: Who knows? I think Nathan's

[00:32:29] [SPEAKER_01]: Kind of his health will dictate

[00:32:31] [SPEAKER_01]: Kind of how many more premierships they win

[00:32:33] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm sure that there'll be a couple seasons where luck comes

[00:32:35] [SPEAKER_01]: On his side. Very similar to like Joey

[00:32:37] [SPEAKER_01]: John's and things like that, right?

[00:32:38] [SPEAKER_01]: But there's going to be other seasons where his body

[00:32:40] [SPEAKER_01]: Really lets him down. He probably

[00:32:42] [SPEAKER_01]: Next year, like what do they do next year?

[00:32:44] [SPEAKER_01]: So they're looking at

[00:32:45] [SPEAKER_01]: Blaise Toulage potentially playing 5-8

[00:32:48] [SPEAKER_01]: They've got Brad Schneider. They've got Cole

[00:32:50] [SPEAKER_01]: But what happens when Cleary gets injured

[00:32:52] [SPEAKER_01]: And they have to play a period of time without him

[00:32:54] [SPEAKER_01]: Like this year, especially in that game

[00:32:56] [SPEAKER_01]: That we had, Jeremy Lowe was

[00:32:58] [SPEAKER_01]: Unbelievable as a 7

[00:32:59] [SPEAKER_01]: Which I think over the next three weeks

[00:33:02] [SPEAKER_01]: He will be again. So

[00:33:04] [SPEAKER_04]: I mean knowing them they probably got some

[00:33:05] [SPEAKER_04]: Kid coming up that we don't know about

[00:33:07] [SPEAKER_04]: And it's a great system like as much as

[00:33:10] [SPEAKER_04]: It's annoying that they're so good

[00:33:12] [SPEAKER_04]: Like I do admire what they do

[00:33:14] [SPEAKER_04]: And you know we're going to go through the mail

[00:33:16] [SPEAKER_04]: A little bit and sometimes you know

[00:33:18] [SPEAKER_04]: There's some negative mail which is completely fine

[00:33:20] [SPEAKER_04]: I think some people

[00:33:23] [SPEAKER_04]: In my opinion, you don't realise how good

[00:33:25] [SPEAKER_04]: They have it right now as a Sharks fan

[00:33:26] [SPEAKER_04]: Even for the last, if you want to say 10 years

[00:33:28] [SPEAKER_04]: But like we all hate losing

[00:33:31] [SPEAKER_04]: I get that

[00:33:32] [SPEAKER_04]: We lose 2 or 3 in a row at the end of world stuff

[00:33:34] [SPEAKER_04]: But it's actually not because

[00:33:36] [SPEAKER_04]: Of the system they have in place

[00:33:38] [SPEAKER_04]: The coach, the players, the squad

[00:33:40] [SPEAKER_04]: The depth is really good this year

[00:33:41] [SPEAKER_04]: Like for me, a guy like

[00:33:44] [SPEAKER_04]: Billy Burns when he signed on

[00:33:46] [SPEAKER_04]: We all kind of went

[00:33:48] [SPEAKER_04]: This isn't moving forward

[00:33:50] [SPEAKER_04]: This isn't great

[00:33:52] [SPEAKER_04]: But actually they signed a guy who's played about 100

[00:33:54] [SPEAKER_04]: In our games. He's a fringe first grader

[00:33:56] [SPEAKER_04]: Every time he's gone out there

[00:33:57] [SPEAKER_04]: He's played with his heart, his body, his soul

[00:34:00] [SPEAKER_04]: And played at a capability where

[00:34:02] [SPEAKER_04]: Where we need him

[00:34:03] [SPEAKER_04]: Like we don't need him to be the best player in the field

[00:34:05] [SPEAKER_04]: We need him to be at like a 7 and a half every week

[00:34:08] [SPEAKER_04]: And he's done that. Look at other clubs

[00:34:11] [SPEAKER_04]: The depth is not there

[00:34:13] [SPEAKER_04]: For different reasons

[00:34:14] [SPEAKER_04]: They're probably not as well run

[00:34:17] [SPEAKER_04]: I just think the Sharks

[00:34:18] [SPEAKER_04]: Are the moment in a really good place

[00:34:20] [SPEAKER_04]: And they need to take the next step

[00:34:22] [SPEAKER_04]: There's no doubt about that

[00:34:23] [SPEAKER_04]: We need to win a final game

[00:34:24] [SPEAKER_04]: We need to go to the prelim

[00:34:26] [SPEAKER_04]: You know, get you back from Africa

[00:34:27] [SPEAKER_04]: Go to a prelim

[00:34:28] [SPEAKER_04]: But aside from that stuff

[00:34:32] [SPEAKER_04]: I think they're going pretty good

[00:34:33] [SPEAKER_04]: When they signed for Nureblaque out of nowhere

[00:34:36] [SPEAKER_04]: You know, Flano's like we got him

[00:34:39] [SPEAKER_04]: Tigers, we got him

[00:34:40] [SPEAKER_04]: Bulldogs, nah

[00:34:41] [SPEAKER_04]: We got him

[00:34:43] [SPEAKER_04]: I interviewed Oregon Confuci last week

[00:34:45] [SPEAKER_04]: And he said

[00:34:46] [SPEAKER_04]: He was nervous meeting Craig Vitskiewen

[00:34:49] [SPEAKER_04]: Because he knows the kind of club that he runs

[00:34:52] [SPEAKER_04]: And he was sort of saying

[00:34:53] [SPEAKER_04]: I didn't have the self-belief that I could be part of that

[00:34:56] [SPEAKER_04]: Then he changed that tune

[00:34:57] [SPEAKER_04]: After he met him and went, oh no I can fit in

[00:34:59] [SPEAKER_04]: That's great. But that's the reputation

[00:35:01] [SPEAKER_04]: That others in the business have

[00:35:03] [SPEAKER_04]: For us. And as fans

[00:35:05] [SPEAKER_04]: When we lose two or three in a row

[00:35:06] [SPEAKER_04]: We get annoyed and go, we suck

[00:35:08] [SPEAKER_04]: We need to do this, need to do that

[00:35:10] [SPEAKER_04]: But the reality is at the moment

[00:35:12] [SPEAKER_04]: Unless I'm saying it completely wrong

[00:35:15] [SPEAKER_04]: They're actually going pretty good

[00:35:17] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and I think Fitsi

[00:35:19] [SPEAKER_01]: I think he knew like deep down

[00:35:21] [SPEAKER_01]: That Newtown had some really good players

[00:35:23] [SPEAKER_01]: Coming through for us as well, right

[00:35:25] [SPEAKER_01]: Look at the players that's come through

[00:35:26] [SPEAKER_01]: Kyle Iroh, he's a regular first grader now

[00:35:29] [SPEAKER_01]: He's in great games from Stone Street

[00:35:31] [SPEAKER_01]: So that's two

[00:35:32] [SPEAKER_01]: You've got, who else has come through

[00:35:34] [SPEAKER_01]: You've got Ackinson who played a whole heap there last year

[00:35:37] [SPEAKER_01]: And have a look at his fortunes

[00:35:39] [SPEAKER_01]: Now you saw, well Tommy Haslund

[00:35:41] [SPEAKER_01]: Kind of break through our team halfway through last year

[00:35:43] [SPEAKER_01]: But again he come through that system

[00:35:45] [SPEAKER_01]: As well, Toku

[00:35:46] [SPEAKER_01]: So it's another guy that's kind of come through as well

[00:35:49] [SPEAKER_01]: So there's kind of like a little

[00:35:51] [SPEAKER_01]: Handful there that I think he trusted

[00:35:53] [SPEAKER_01]: To take the next step and that's why

[00:35:55] [SPEAKER_01]: He didn't get a mark last year

[00:35:56] [SPEAKER_01]: Left enough then Dow, obviously the Dow money

[00:35:59] [SPEAKER_01]: Really probably helped to get

[00:36:00] [SPEAKER_01]: Addin across the line because he would have been

[00:36:02] [SPEAKER_01]: On a big packet in terms of Addin

[00:36:04] [SPEAKER_01]: I know Dow was kind of declining in salary

[00:36:06] [SPEAKER_01]: As he was kind of ending his career

[00:36:08] [SPEAKER_01]: But still, he was an elite player

[00:36:10] [SPEAKER_01]: So still would have been a chunk of money there

[00:36:12] [SPEAKER_01]: For them to spend so

[00:36:14] [SPEAKER_01]: I think that's, they had a look at kind of

[00:36:16] [SPEAKER_01]: What we were lacking and

[00:36:17] [SPEAKER_01]: Addin was what we were lacking in terms of the premier front-roller

[00:36:20] [SPEAKER_01]: But who knows what happens then

[00:36:22] [SPEAKER_01]: Iroh was just a funny game

[00:36:23] [SPEAKER_01]: Like who would have thought Nathan Cleary got injured

[00:36:25] [SPEAKER_01]: What happens if he doesn't come back anywhere near his best

[00:36:27] [SPEAKER_01]: What happens if this week Jerome Hughes gets injured

[00:36:29] [SPEAKER_01]: Or Harry Graham gets injured

[00:36:30] [SPEAKER_01]: It can realistically happen or Tedesco

[00:36:33] [SPEAKER_01]: And then the whole comp is kind of thrown

[00:36:35] [SPEAKER_01]: Just everywhere and then all of a sudden

[00:36:37] [SPEAKER_01]: The Sharks have got a fully fit team

[00:36:39] [SPEAKER_01]: And then, you know we've had some really good players

[00:36:41] [SPEAKER_01]: Sitting on the sideline for a while

[00:36:42] [SPEAKER_01]: And suddenly they're fresh, they go for another charge

[00:36:44] [SPEAKER_01]: Because you only have to get ready for that

[00:36:47] [SPEAKER_01]: Week one, right? Get yourself

[00:36:48] [SPEAKER_01]: In a really healthy good position

[00:36:50] [SPEAKER_01]: For that week one of finals and then it's a new ball game

[00:36:53] [SPEAKER_01]: So, that's why

[00:36:55] [SPEAKER_04]: It's crucial they finish top four

[00:36:56] [SPEAKER_04]: I've heard a few people say, oh, if we come fifth

[00:36:59] [SPEAKER_04]: We play at home, we play against

[00:37:00] [SPEAKER_04]: Eighth or whatever it's like, nah

[00:37:02] [SPEAKER_04]: If you want to have a shake, you need that week off

[00:37:05] [SPEAKER_04]: Therefore you need to win week one

[00:37:07] [SPEAKER_04]: And you're right, if you fit in healthy

[00:37:10] [SPEAKER_04]: Then at least you got a shot at it

[00:37:11] [SPEAKER_04]: I think the other point

[00:37:13] [SPEAKER_04]: You were talking about guys potentially falling over

[00:37:16] [SPEAKER_04]: Is that we've had guys fall over

[00:37:18] [SPEAKER_04]: As we've spoken about for the last 40 minutes

[00:37:20] [SPEAKER_04]: And we've had guys step up and win us clutch games

[00:37:23] [SPEAKER_04]: Places we didn't think we'd ever win

[00:37:25] [SPEAKER_04]: Against teams we never thought we'd beat this year

[00:37:27] [SPEAKER_04]: And that's only a positive when it comes down to the finals

[00:37:30] [SPEAKER_04]: Because if we're in that position

[00:37:33] [SPEAKER_04]: Then, you know, if we're the team with guys falling over again

[00:37:35] [SPEAKER_04]: For whatever reason, then at least we know we can do it

[00:37:38] [SPEAKER_04]: It's going to be harder, absolutely

[00:37:40] [SPEAKER_04]: But I think that's what gives me a bit of

[00:37:42] [SPEAKER_04]: A bit of faith about the end of the year

[00:37:44] [SPEAKER_04]: And even the game against Newcastle

[00:37:45] [SPEAKER_04]: I know Newcastle are very good

[00:37:46] [SPEAKER_04]: I've spoken about it all year

[00:37:47] [SPEAKER_04]: Like they've got one player essentially

[00:37:50] [SPEAKER_04]: But just to groan that out

[00:37:51] [SPEAKER_04]: We were missing five or six starters

[00:37:54] [SPEAKER_04]: The conditions were terrible

[00:37:56] [SPEAKER_04]: Not the officiating, but the way the rules were sort of displayed

[00:37:59] [SPEAKER_04]: Was kind of weird

[00:38:00] [SPEAKER_04]: And we got through it, got the win

[00:38:02] [SPEAKER_04]: All that kind of tells me

[00:38:05] [SPEAKER_04]: That we're going to be ready for the finals

[00:38:06] [SPEAKER_04]: And there'll be no excuses

[00:38:08] [SPEAKER_04]: Like I think that if we run out with the team

[00:38:11] [SPEAKER_04]: That we ran out last week

[00:38:12] [SPEAKER_04]: And we play week one and we get thrashed

[00:38:14] [SPEAKER_04]: I think it's on us

[00:38:15] [SPEAKER_04]: I don't think it's because Niko's missing or whatever

[00:38:17] [SPEAKER_04]: I think that we've done enough this year to prove

[00:38:20] [SPEAKER_04]: No, no, we can mix with the big boys

[00:38:22] [SPEAKER_04]: And it's on you

[00:38:23] [SPEAKER_04]: If you lose, then you're going to get the headlines

[00:38:25] [SPEAKER_04]: You're going to be called the chokers, etc

[00:38:28] [SPEAKER_04]: That's a lot of pressure

[00:38:29] [SPEAKER_04]: I get that

[00:38:30] [SPEAKER_04]: I know the players hear it

[00:38:32] [SPEAKER_04]: But that's the position they're in

[00:38:34] [SPEAKER_04]: They put themselves in this position

[00:38:35] [SPEAKER_04]: Where they've lost three finals in a row

[00:38:37] [SPEAKER_04]: Not to mention all the other ones

[00:38:38] [SPEAKER_04]: But under the Fitzgibbon regime

[00:38:40] [SPEAKER_04]: Three finals in a row

[00:38:42] [SPEAKER_04]: Fourth time lucky

[00:38:43] [SPEAKER_04]: Time to step up

[00:38:44] [SPEAKER_04]: I wanted to ask you about that

[00:38:46] [SPEAKER_04]: How do we step up in the finals?

[00:38:47] [SPEAKER_04]: What are we going to do?

[00:38:48] [SPEAKER_04]: How do we get to another level

[00:38:49] [SPEAKER_04]: Or just win some games

[00:38:51] [SPEAKER_01]: I think we play just nice tough footy

[00:38:54] [SPEAKER_01]: I think we're in a lot better position

[00:38:55] [SPEAKER_01]: We've said it a few times now Sam

[00:38:57] [SPEAKER_01]: Last year, we went into the finals

[00:39:00] [SPEAKER_01]: That first game against the RISC

[00:39:01] [SPEAKER_01]: It was pretty busted, I feel

[00:39:02] [SPEAKER_01]: Like just getting into the finals

[00:39:04] [SPEAKER_01]: Six rounds before the end of the season

[00:39:05] [SPEAKER_01]: He changes up the spine

[00:39:07] [SPEAKER_01]: They had six games together

[00:39:09] [SPEAKER_01]: Only six games

[00:39:10] [SPEAKER_01]: And then in that game

[00:39:12] [SPEAKER_01]: They lost against Manley

[00:39:14] [SPEAKER_01]: They lost against Penrith

[00:39:14] [SPEAKER_01]: And then they strung a few at the end

[00:39:17] [SPEAKER_01]: And then they kind of crawled into the eight

[00:39:19] [SPEAKER_01]: I think we finished six from memory

[00:39:20] [SPEAKER_01]: And then we played seventh

[00:39:22] [SPEAKER_01]: Who was the rooster, is that correct Sam?

[00:39:24] [SPEAKER_01]: Pretty sure that's right

[00:39:25] [SPEAKER_04]: Five, six, it sounds right, yeah

[00:39:27] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, because someone else finished fifth

[00:39:29] [SPEAKER_01]: Ahead of us

[00:39:30] [SPEAKER_01]: Newcastle finished fifth, right?

[00:39:32] [SPEAKER_04]: We were in that

[00:39:33] [SPEAKER_04]: We got the home game

[00:39:35] [SPEAKER_04]: So it must have been six plays seven

[00:39:36] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it was Newcastle and Canberra

[00:39:38] [SPEAKER_01]: I think played fifth and eighth

[00:39:39] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm sure of it

[00:39:41] [SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, I think into that rooster's game

[00:39:43] [SPEAKER_01]: That, yeah, we were playing a style of footy

[00:39:46] [SPEAKER_01]: That was kind of tough

[00:39:48] [SPEAKER_01]: But we couldn't really

[00:39:50] [SPEAKER_01]: Put too many points on the board

[00:39:51] [SPEAKER_01]: And I think we're out of steam

[00:39:53] [SPEAKER_01]: Like you had Wade Graham, you know

[00:39:54] [SPEAKER_01]: Granted he's a great player

[00:39:56] [SPEAKER_01]: But I think he was on his last legs as well

[00:39:57] [SPEAKER_01]: And he was playing out of his skin, right?

[00:39:59] [SPEAKER_01]: But he's literally a mid-thirties guy

[00:40:01] [SPEAKER_01]: That was literally the

[00:40:03] [SPEAKER_01]: He wasn't even, he was

[00:40:05] [SPEAKER_01]: He wasn't probably even in our top 17

[00:40:07] [SPEAKER_01]: Then all of a sudden we get a stack of injuries

[00:40:09] [SPEAKER_01]: And he has to start and be captain again, right?

[00:40:11] [SPEAKER_01]: That's kind of how the season

[00:40:13] [SPEAKER_01]: Was kind of dictated last year

[00:40:15] [SPEAKER_01]: But I'm seeing a lot of really good positives

[00:40:17] [SPEAKER_01]: I think last year we found out that

[00:40:19] [SPEAKER_01]: Siffa is

[00:40:21] [SPEAKER_01]: He's kind of, he's a center but he's not a center, right?

[00:40:24] [SPEAKER_01]: Like if we were only attacking

[00:40:25] [SPEAKER_01]: Of course he's a center

[00:40:27] [SPEAKER_01]: But when we're defending

[00:40:29] [SPEAKER_01]: He's not at center

[00:40:30] [SPEAKER_04]: Not against elite, elite teams

[00:40:32] [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, don't get me wrong

[00:40:33] [SPEAKER_04]: Newcastle not elite

[00:40:34] [SPEAKER_04]: But Dan Gagga is a decent player

[00:40:37] [SPEAKER_04]: Even though he's older, he's a decent player

[00:40:39] [SPEAKER_04]: And there were two chances on the weekend

[00:40:41] [SPEAKER_04]: And they took him and the first one

[00:40:43] [SPEAKER_04]: Counted, the second one thankfully

[00:40:44] [SPEAKER_04]: Well, Kennedy stopped it but it was right through Siffa

[00:40:47] [SPEAKER_04]: So, you know

[00:40:48] [SPEAKER_04]: I've seen enough of Euro to go, yeah he's the guy

[00:40:52] [SPEAKER_04]: But when he's not there

[00:40:53] [SPEAKER_04]: It's 100% the right thing to throw

[00:40:56] [SPEAKER_04]: Talakai in

[00:40:58] [SPEAKER_04]: But I think the better the opposition

[00:40:59] [SPEAKER_04]: The more you're going to think about it

[00:41:00] [SPEAKER_04]: Should he play there or not? Is there an alternative?

[00:41:04] [SPEAKER_04]: But

[00:41:05] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I agree, I think we're in a better place

[00:41:07] [SPEAKER_04]: This year, I really do

[00:41:09] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, the bench is

[00:41:10] [SPEAKER_01]: Everyone's just a little bit older

[00:41:12] [SPEAKER_01]: A little bit more experienced

[00:41:13] [SPEAKER_01]: I think Blake has finally figured out what his role

[00:41:16] [SPEAKER_01]: In the team is as well

[00:41:17] [SPEAKER_01]: He's got so much more confidence than last year

[00:41:20] [SPEAKER_01]: I know that he cops a lot of criticism

[00:41:21] [SPEAKER_01]: You brought it up at the start of the show

[00:41:24] [SPEAKER_01]: And I think he's really stepped up

[00:41:25] [SPEAKER_01]: I actually do think that

[00:41:27] [SPEAKER_01]: Was he player of the year last year?

[00:41:29] [SPEAKER_04]: He was, yeah

[00:41:29] [SPEAKER_01]: I think he's actually player of the year this year

[00:41:31] [SPEAKER_01]: I didn't think he was player of the year last year

[00:41:33] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah

[00:41:36] [SPEAKER_04]: I'm probably leaning towards

[00:41:37] [SPEAKER_04]: A Talakai at the moment

[00:41:39] [SPEAKER_04]: We've still got some time to decide on that

[00:41:41] [SPEAKER_04]: But Blake's been unbelievable

[00:41:42] [SPEAKER_04]: And I think Underfit's Gibbon

[00:41:45] [SPEAKER_04]: He's gotten a lot better each year

[00:41:46] [SPEAKER_04]: And this year has been the peak

[00:41:48] [SPEAKER_04]: I just want to see it week in, week out

[00:41:50] [SPEAKER_04]: I want to see it when Heinz and Trindle are there

[00:41:53] [SPEAKER_04]: I want to see him make some calls

[00:41:54] [SPEAKER_04]: Make some runs

[00:41:56] [SPEAKER_04]: I saw today that he's

[00:41:58] [SPEAKER_04]: Made the most line engagements from dummy half

[00:42:00] [SPEAKER_04]: So he's actively improving his game

[00:42:03] [SPEAKER_04]: In creating chances

[00:42:05] [SPEAKER_04]: Getting the defence to engage

[00:42:07] [SPEAKER_04]: Being responsible for getting

[00:42:09] [SPEAKER_04]: Six against and that kind of thing

[00:42:10] [SPEAKER_04]: So he's never been more involved in the game

[00:42:13] [SPEAKER_04]: And I think that's a real positive

[00:42:15] [SPEAKER_04]: And I would hate to think of us without him

[00:42:17] [SPEAKER_04]: I think he's just a crucial member of the team

[00:42:18] [SPEAKER_04]: I think when people kind of rag on him

[00:42:21] [SPEAKER_04]: I understand where some of it's coming from

[00:42:23] [SPEAKER_04]: But I'd love to see their opinion of us

[00:42:26] [SPEAKER_04]: When he's not in the team this year

[00:42:28] [SPEAKER_04]: For example, when someone else is hooking this gram

[00:42:30] [SPEAKER_04]: It's like it's not going to be the same

[00:42:32] [SPEAKER_01]: Sam just on Blake, just how durable is he

[00:42:34] [SPEAKER_01]: When you think he'll be 83 kilos

[00:42:36] [SPEAKER_01]: Ringing wet, right?

[00:42:38] [SPEAKER_01]: Like he literally has not missed a game

[00:42:40] [SPEAKER_01]: Of football for like what four years

[00:42:43] [SPEAKER_01]: Since he came into great

[00:42:44] [SPEAKER_01]: The only time he got injured was in that semi-final

[00:42:46] [SPEAKER_01]: Against the Raiders

[00:42:47] [SPEAKER_04]: And we were going great and he went off

[00:42:49] [SPEAKER_04]: And we lost

[00:42:51] [SPEAKER_04]: He's definitely got the current longest run

[00:42:53] [SPEAKER_04]: Of consecutive games

[00:42:54] [SPEAKER_04]: I'm not sure whether record stands

[00:42:56] [SPEAKER_04]: Or anything at the moment

[00:42:57] [SPEAKER_04]: But he's got the current longest in the NRL

[00:42:59] [SPEAKER_04]: There's not much of him

[00:43:01] [SPEAKER_04]: And I'm a big fan

[00:43:03] [SPEAKER_04]: People know that

[00:43:04] [SPEAKER_04]: And you know to be fair

[00:43:05] [SPEAKER_04]: He hasn't been like clutch

[00:43:07] [SPEAKER_04]: Or amazing week in week out

[00:43:09] [SPEAKER_04]: Over the five or six years

[00:43:11] [SPEAKER_04]: But there's no doubt he's getting better

[00:43:13] [SPEAKER_04]: And I think this year

[00:43:14] [SPEAKER_04]: You can pinpoint errors or whatever

[00:43:16] [SPEAKER_04]: Or mistaken opportunities etc

[00:43:19] [SPEAKER_04]: There's not much I can say

[00:43:21] [SPEAKER_04]: Negative about him this year

[00:43:22] [SPEAKER_04]: I personally I just think yeah

[00:43:24] [SPEAKER_04]: He's probably on his way to another

[00:43:26] [SPEAKER_04]: Gallon Porter medal

[00:43:27] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah absolutely

[00:43:28] [SPEAKER_01]: I love him

[00:43:29] [SPEAKER_01]: I think he's going to just go from strength to strength

[00:43:32] [SPEAKER_04]: TK talk a bit more about your podcast

[00:43:34] [SPEAKER_04]: Tell people where they can listen

[00:43:36] [SPEAKER_04]: What they can expect

[00:43:37] [SPEAKER_04]: Tell us about your different shows

[00:43:39] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh it's just talking like pod

[00:43:40] [SPEAKER_01]: You're talking me up here Sammy

[00:43:43] [SPEAKER_01]: I love it

[00:43:44] [SPEAKER_01]: But yeah if you're into your fantasy sports

[00:43:46] [SPEAKER_01]: You want to get your fantasy team together

[00:43:48] [SPEAKER_01]: Obviously we only got two weeks to go

[00:43:49] [SPEAKER_01]: But the boys have a lot of fun

[00:43:51] [SPEAKER_01]: I think there's more fun at the moment

[00:43:52] [SPEAKER_01]: Happening than fantasy talk at the moment

[00:43:54] [SPEAKER_01]: So yeah I think it's half comedy

[00:43:56] [SPEAKER_01]: Half fantasy to be fair

[00:43:58] [SPEAKER_01]: So the boys just have a really good time together

[00:44:00] [SPEAKER_01]: So generally I'm on a Tuesday night

[00:44:02] [SPEAKER_01]: Which is the main show after the team list

[00:44:03] [SPEAKER_01]: But we've got a whole eight

[00:44:04] [SPEAKER_01]: We've got like because we've got a few

[00:44:06] [SPEAKER_01]: Key weeks boys and they've started a

[00:44:07] [SPEAKER_01]: A show called Waz Weekly

[00:44:09] [SPEAKER_01]: So it's just a bit of a comedy show

[00:44:11] [SPEAKER_01]: About fantasy and then obviously

[00:44:14] [SPEAKER_01]: They're live for the New Zealand Warriors

[00:44:15] [SPEAKER_01]: Which I think they do really really well

[00:44:17] [SPEAKER_01]: So yeah that's probably the little difference

[00:44:20] [SPEAKER_01]: I wish there was a shark

[00:44:21] [SPEAKER_01]: A shark's weekly but I'm not going to

[00:44:23] [SPEAKER_01]: Compete with my main man Sam that is for sure

[00:44:24] [SPEAKER_04]: Now can you tell us how quickly

[00:44:27] [SPEAKER_04]: You jumped off that Warriors bandwagon

[00:44:31] [SPEAKER_04]: It was like an athlete diving into the water

[00:44:33] [SPEAKER_01]: Because I've got a lot of New Zealand friends

[00:44:35] [SPEAKER_01]: I wanted to obviously support them

[00:44:37] [SPEAKER_01]: So I actually do have a jersey

[00:44:39] [SPEAKER_01]: I know

[00:44:40] [SPEAKER_01]: I do have a jersey and I sometimes wear it

[00:44:43] [SPEAKER_01]: And I like it

[00:44:44] [SPEAKER_01]: I think it's actually one of the sexiest

[00:44:45] [SPEAKER_01]: Jerseys in the NRL

[00:44:46] [SPEAKER_04]: But I mean last year you were all about the Waz

[00:44:48] [SPEAKER_04]: All I could hear from you was the word Waz

[00:44:50] [SPEAKER_04]: I'd be like hey how you going to K2K

[00:44:52] [SPEAKER_04]: Wah this year

[00:44:54] [SPEAKER_04]: Not much Waren going on

[00:44:55] [SPEAKER_01]: It was so easy last year to rev people up using Waz

[00:45:00] [SPEAKER_01]: Like if people would just hate it so much

[00:45:02] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know why the Aussies didn't really like the Waz that much

[00:45:04] [SPEAKER_01]: But in New Zealand it was incredible

[00:45:06] [SPEAKER_01]: Like their ride when you think about

[00:45:08] [SPEAKER_01]: What they've done as a kind of an organisation

[00:45:10] [SPEAKER_01]: To be selling out every single game

[00:45:13] [SPEAKER_01]: And we're not talking Shark Park

[00:45:16] [SPEAKER_01]: 9000 people

[00:45:16] [SPEAKER_01]: We're talking about like

[00:45:18] [SPEAKER_01]: Mount Start Stadium with like 27000 people

[00:45:22] [SPEAKER_01]: It's pretty incredible

[00:45:22] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah it is

[00:45:23] [SPEAKER_04]: And they have a soft spot in most NRL fans

[00:45:27] [SPEAKER_04]: Hearts I would like to think

[00:45:29] [SPEAKER_04]: So you're coming to the game next week

[00:45:30] [SPEAKER_04]: What are you going to wear

[00:45:31] [SPEAKER_04]: Like the half waz, half Sharks jersey

[00:45:32] [SPEAKER_04]: What are you going to do?

[00:45:37] [SPEAKER_01]: That's a good idea Sam

[00:45:38] [SPEAKER_01]: Thank you mate

[00:45:38] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to come and flip it out

[00:45:40] [SPEAKER_01]: You know I'm going to be a winner next week

[00:45:42] [SPEAKER_04]: What we're going to do on this episode TK

[00:45:43] [SPEAKER_04]: Is we're going to keep rolling

[00:45:44] [SPEAKER_04]: And we should tell everyone that

[00:45:46] [SPEAKER_04]: You know all being well

[00:45:48] [SPEAKER_04]: We're going to have a few more episodes this week

[00:45:49] [SPEAKER_04]: And one of them is going to be a preview episode

[00:45:52] [SPEAKER_04]: So we're going to

[00:45:53] [SPEAKER_04]: Probably not going to talk too much about the Derby

[00:45:55] [SPEAKER_04]: I'll get your thoughts on it at the end

[00:45:56] [SPEAKER_04]: But we are going to skip to our

[00:45:59] [SPEAKER_04]: Letters section

[00:46:00] [SPEAKER_04]: Our mail section

[00:46:01] [SPEAKER_04]: We've got a bit to get through which is awesome

[00:46:03] [SPEAKER_04]: I want to start with Nathan

[00:46:05] [SPEAKER_04]: Nathan wrote to us

[00:46:07] [SPEAKER_04]: And he said hey Team Shark Cast

[00:46:08] [SPEAKER_04]: Thanks for all you do on the podcast

[00:46:11] [SPEAKER_04]: Never once will I take it for granted

[00:46:14] [SPEAKER_04]: That your pod is a big part of my week

[00:46:16] [SPEAKER_04]: So thank you

[00:46:16] [SPEAKER_04]: And we say thank you to Nathan

[00:46:18] [SPEAKER_04]: We truly appreciate it

[00:46:20] [SPEAKER_04]: He then gets a bit negative

[00:46:22] [SPEAKER_04]: He says I have to bring this up

[00:46:24] [SPEAKER_04]: Because I'm a bit miffed

[00:46:25] [SPEAKER_04]: Val Holmes officially deserves to be booed

[00:46:29] [SPEAKER_04]: And booed extensively whenever he comes to Shark Park

[00:46:32] [SPEAKER_04]: I don't need to go into his history

[00:46:34] [SPEAKER_04]: Da da da

[00:46:35] [SPEAKER_04]: Now he's a dragon

[00:46:37] [SPEAKER_04]: It's indefensible

[00:46:38] [SPEAKER_04]: We copped these NFL BS

[00:46:40] [SPEAKER_04]: We copped him going to the Cowboys

[00:46:41] [SPEAKER_04]: We copped the two point dagger

[00:46:43] [SPEAKER_04]: And now we cop him going to the enemy

[00:46:45] [SPEAKER_04]: The Duggins

[00:46:47] [SPEAKER_04]: What a horrible ex-girlfriend

[00:46:49] [SPEAKER_04]: A boyfriend he's been

[00:46:50] [SPEAKER_04]: Boo Valentine

[00:46:52] [SPEAKER_04]: Boo

[00:46:54] [SPEAKER_01]: The thing with that might say

[00:46:55] [SPEAKER_01]: Like didn't Val leave

[00:46:57] [SPEAKER_01]: It must have had something to do with Flano right

[00:46:59] [SPEAKER_01]: Why do you say that?

[00:47:00] [SPEAKER_01]: You would have to

[00:47:01] [SPEAKER_01]: Because he left when Flano was the coach

[00:47:03] [SPEAKER_01]: Right so you'd have to say

[00:47:05] [SPEAKER_01]: If you really valued Flano as a coach

[00:47:07] [SPEAKER_01]: Wouldn't he have stayed

[00:47:08] [SPEAKER_04]: Well he's going to value him now

[00:47:10] [SPEAKER_04]: For three years so

[00:47:11] [SPEAKER_01]: Money talks

[00:47:12] [SPEAKER_04]: That was from Nathan

[00:47:14] [SPEAKER_04]: And while I bring that one up

[00:47:15] [SPEAKER_04]: I got another one here

[00:47:17] [SPEAKER_04]: From our friend Sladden

[00:47:20] [SPEAKER_04]: I'm not going to read out word for word what Sladden said

[00:47:22] [SPEAKER_04]: But I've got to tell you Sladden gave it to me

[00:47:23] [SPEAKER_04]: And he gave it to me with respect

[00:47:26] [SPEAKER_04]: But he's had enough of the Val talk as well

[00:47:28] [SPEAKER_04]: He doesn't want any more Val

[00:47:31] [SPEAKER_04]: And he also said you know he loves how much

[00:47:34] [SPEAKER_04]: He listens to the pod every week

[00:47:35] [SPEAKER_04]: He loves it

[00:47:36] [SPEAKER_04]: Which really appreciate

[00:47:37] [SPEAKER_04]: And I replied and we had a good banter

[00:47:39] [SPEAKER_04]: But Sladden

[00:47:40] [SPEAKER_04]: No more Val for Sladden

[00:47:42] [SPEAKER_04]: We're only going to talk about a Val when we need to

[00:47:44] [SPEAKER_04]: Not because of Sladden

[00:47:45] [SPEAKER_04]: But because I do realise that

[00:47:48] [SPEAKER_04]: My love for him

[00:47:50] [SPEAKER_04]: Is forever more

[00:47:51] [SPEAKER_04]: So when we get mail like that

[00:47:53] [SPEAKER_04]: I have to read it out

[00:47:54] [SPEAKER_04]: So Sladden

[00:47:55] [SPEAKER_04]: That was why I read that one out

[00:47:58] [SPEAKER_04]: Appreciate both of you guys

[00:47:59] [SPEAKER_04]: I really do

[00:48:01] [SPEAKER_04]: Next up we have

[00:48:04] [SPEAKER_04]: Brett

[00:48:05] [SPEAKER_04]: Brett says death taxes

[00:48:06] [SPEAKER_04]: Sharks dropping the ball

[00:48:07] [SPEAKER_04]: When the Sharkies chant

[00:48:10] [SPEAKER_04]: Gets played

[00:48:10] [SPEAKER_04]: Oh that might be an old one I think

[00:48:12] [SPEAKER_04]: Because last week

[00:48:13] [SPEAKER_04]: Did we drop the ball last week?

[00:48:15] [SPEAKER_04]: What's the date today?

[00:48:16] [SPEAKER_04]: Let me win this game

[00:48:17] [SPEAKER_04]: Oh no this is from last week

[00:48:18] [SPEAKER_04]: He's saying that we dropped the ball

[00:48:20] [SPEAKER_04]: When the Sharkies chant went up

[00:48:21] [SPEAKER_04]: But I know for a fact

[00:48:22] [SPEAKER_04]: We also might have

[00:48:24] [SPEAKER_04]: Scored when it was happening

[00:48:25] [SPEAKER_04]: So

[00:48:26] [SPEAKER_04]: TBC that one on that one

[00:48:27] [SPEAKER_04]: Brett thanks for being in touch

[00:48:29] [SPEAKER_04]: James said

[00:48:30] [SPEAKER_04]: Wasn't our best performance

[00:48:31] [SPEAKER_04]: Glad we got two points

[00:48:33] [SPEAKER_04]: Given all the players that were missing

[00:48:35] [SPEAKER_04]: You do think Talakai is more suited to them

[00:48:37] [SPEAKER_04]: To the forwards

[00:48:38] [SPEAKER_04]: Although he made some good

[00:48:39] [SPEAKER_04]: Strong runs in the centres

[00:48:41] [SPEAKER_04]: On a positive note

[00:48:42] [SPEAKER_04]: Akko was calm under pressure

[00:48:44] [SPEAKER_04]: With the sideline conversion

[00:48:45] [SPEAKER_04]: And Fugal

[00:48:46] [SPEAKER_04]: We might need to find him a spot

[00:48:48] [SPEAKER_04]: When both Trindle and Hynes returns

[00:48:51] [SPEAKER_04]: That's from Jimmy in Ireland

[00:48:52] [SPEAKER_04]: So he's seeing things from a long way away

[00:48:56] [SPEAKER_04]: Thank you to Jay

[00:48:57] [SPEAKER_04]: Who subscribed to the YouTube channel

[00:48:58] [SPEAKER_04]: We would love you all to do that

[00:49:01] [SPEAKER_04]: Blake says

[00:49:02] [SPEAKER_04]: The refereeing was terrible

[00:49:04] [SPEAKER_04]: So many knock-ons

[00:49:06] [SPEAKER_04]: And bad play the balls missed

[00:49:07] [SPEAKER_04]: Not to mention both teams

[00:49:10] [SPEAKER_04]: With the blocking penalties

[00:49:12] [SPEAKER_04]: Secondly Atkinson has ice in his veins

[00:49:14] [SPEAKER_04]: Ooh I like that

[00:49:15] [SPEAKER_04]: Nailed two field goals

[00:49:17] [SPEAKER_04]: He goes alright in those moments

[00:49:18] [SPEAKER_04]: But up until then

[00:49:21] [SPEAKER_04]: He showed exactly what he is

[00:49:23] [SPEAKER_04]: An average playmaker with little creativity

[00:49:26] [SPEAKER_04]: We couldn't break them down

[00:49:28] [SPEAKER_04]: And Blake needed to take more control there

[00:49:30] [SPEAKER_04]: So just on that

[00:49:31] [SPEAKER_04]: Blake

[00:49:34] [SPEAKER_04]: I disagree with that

[00:49:35] [SPEAKER_04]: As I've said in the first hour with TK

[00:49:37] [SPEAKER_04]: I've been super impressed with Atkinson

[00:49:40] [SPEAKER_04]: I know where you're coming from

[00:49:42] [SPEAKER_04]: But I also think if you look at his moments

[00:49:46] [SPEAKER_04]: You had Solotrigh

[00:49:47] [SPEAKER_04]: You had Triassist

[00:49:48] [SPEAKER_04]: You had conversion from the sideline

[00:49:50] [SPEAKER_04]: You had match winning field goal

[00:49:51] [SPEAKER_04]: How much more do you want this guy to do

[00:49:54] [SPEAKER_04]: Is that a fair statement TK?

[00:49:57] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah I think it is

[00:49:57] [SPEAKER_01]: And I think Fitz covered it in the post

[00:49:59] [SPEAKER_01]: Pressor as well

[00:50:00] [SPEAKER_01]: You know what I brought up before with the one half only

[00:50:02] [SPEAKER_01]: Like there's only so much that you can do

[00:50:05] [SPEAKER_01]: And I think it comes to a point there

[00:50:07] [SPEAKER_01]: Where Knights have done plenty of homework

[00:50:08] [SPEAKER_01]: There on Akko

[00:50:09] [SPEAKER_01]: And you do need two halves to take advantage

[00:50:11] [SPEAKER_01]: Of the field position and the possession that you've got

[00:50:13] [SPEAKER_01]: So I think the Knights kind of worked out

[00:50:16] [SPEAKER_01]: Past that 10 minute mark

[00:50:17] [SPEAKER_01]: That everything was going to go through Atkinson

[00:50:19] [SPEAKER_01]: And then essentially they were able to kind of

[00:50:21] [SPEAKER_01]: Adjust a little bit that way as well

[00:50:23] [SPEAKER_01]: So if anything I applaud Atkinson

[00:50:24] [SPEAKER_01]: For being able to get us back into the game

[00:50:27] [SPEAKER_01]: And then obviously ice the game there as well

[00:50:30] [SPEAKER_01]: So I think it's kind of

[00:50:32] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah very, I respect what Blake's saying

[00:50:35] [SPEAKER_01]: But I think it's one other thing

[00:50:37] [SPEAKER_01]: I think he's being a touch harsh

[00:50:38] [SPEAKER_04]: His last comment is

[00:50:40] [SPEAKER_04]: A lot has been mentioned about the

[00:50:41] [SPEAKER_04]: Roosers record against Melbourne or Penrith

[00:50:44] [SPEAKER_04]: Dating back to 2020

[00:50:45] [SPEAKER_04]: It's currently 19 and 1

[00:50:51] [SPEAKER_04]: That means 1 and 19 right

[00:50:53] [SPEAKER_04]: That's what he means?

[00:50:54] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah he does

[00:50:55] [SPEAKER_04]: If you consider Fitzgibbon to be a part of that coaching regime

[00:50:59] [SPEAKER_04]: Which he was for 2 years

[00:51:01] [SPEAKER_04]: Then Fitzgibbon's record against those two teams

[00:51:05] [SPEAKER_04]: Is the following

[00:51:06] [SPEAKER_04]: 3 and 24

[00:51:08] [SPEAKER_04]: My question is

[00:51:09] [SPEAKER_04]: Do Fitzgibbon Robinson teams get found out

[00:51:12] [SPEAKER_04]: Against the big dogs

[00:51:13] [SPEAKER_04]: And if so why

[00:51:15] [SPEAKER_01]: That incredible runs but

[00:51:17] [SPEAKER_01]: When you think out of the last two

[00:51:19] [SPEAKER_01]: Well Penrith won the last three and then the storm one

[00:51:21] [SPEAKER_01]: Like you're talking about

[00:51:23] [SPEAKER_01]: The only premiers for the last four years

[00:51:25] [SPEAKER_01]: So it's probably not the best stat to be looking at really

[00:51:29] [SPEAKER_04]: It's still factual though

[00:51:30] [SPEAKER_01]: It is very factual but I think it's this kind of

[00:51:32] [SPEAKER_01]: Errors right

[00:51:33] [SPEAKER_01]: And both those teams are either coming off

[00:51:36] [SPEAKER_01]: Like well storm still do have a dynasty

[00:51:39] [SPEAKER_01]: Despite even losing the likes of Cameron Smith

[00:51:41] [SPEAKER_01]: Etc. Cooper Cronk

[00:51:42] [SPEAKER_01]: But then you have a look at Penrith

[00:51:44] [SPEAKER_01]: I know that we spoke about before them losing

[00:51:47] [SPEAKER_01]: Like a hell of a lot of good marquee players

[00:51:49] [SPEAKER_01]: But they're going through a bit of a dynasty run

[00:51:51] [SPEAKER_01]: There as well so sometimes you get unlucky

[00:51:53] [SPEAKER_01]: Like that's like saying

[00:51:54] [SPEAKER_01]: All the teams that lost the Chicago Bulls

[00:51:58] [SPEAKER_01]: When Jordan had those

[00:52:00] [SPEAKER_01]: Two three Pete's right

[00:52:01] [SPEAKER_01]: Like it was just an incredible guy

[00:52:03] [SPEAKER_01]: That you just or there's other

[00:52:05] [SPEAKER_01]: Like tennis players right

[00:52:07] [SPEAKER_01]: Think about all the good players that had to

[00:52:09] [SPEAKER_01]: Were played against the likes of then

[00:52:11] [SPEAKER_01]: Federer into Nadal into

[00:52:13] [SPEAKER_01]: Jokovic it's just kind of like

[00:52:15] [SPEAKER_01]: You go through an era while

[00:52:17] [SPEAKER_01]: When you have a look at when we grew up

[00:52:18] [SPEAKER_01]: With tennis that is like you would have a different

[00:52:21] [SPEAKER_01]: Grand stand champion because essentially no one

[00:52:23] [SPEAKER_01]: Really dominated

[00:52:25] [SPEAKER_01]: Like those three guys have

[00:52:27] [SPEAKER_01]: Like sometimes you just go through eras of sport

[00:52:29] [SPEAKER_01]: And you're going through like we're both big NFL guys

[00:52:31] [SPEAKER_01]: Kansas City is at the moment going through a dynasty

[00:52:33] [SPEAKER_01]: Because of Patrick Mahone's right

[00:52:34] [SPEAKER_01]: So it's one and then before that

[00:52:36] [SPEAKER_01]: There was doing Patriots with Tom Brady

[00:52:39] [SPEAKER_01]: Like sometimes you just go through these periods

[00:52:41] [SPEAKER_01]: At times where the juggernaut

[00:52:43] [SPEAKER_01]: Is just huge and there's nothing a lot

[00:52:45] [SPEAKER_01]: There's not much you can do like I don't think

[00:52:48] [SPEAKER_01]: You fits is just coaching the best you can

[00:52:50] [SPEAKER_01]: And the same is Trent Robinson they're just

[00:52:51] [SPEAKER_01]: Stuck in the wrong

[00:52:53] [SPEAKER_01]: Kind of era right now but in saying that

[00:52:55] [SPEAKER_01]: Trent Robinson had a fair record

[00:52:57] [SPEAKER_01]: We're going back to their premiership there as well

[00:52:59] [SPEAKER_01]: So he had to he gave it to the storm

[00:53:01] [SPEAKER_01]: And the roosters there as straight storm

[00:53:03] [SPEAKER_01]: And the panthers there as well so

[00:53:04] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah I'm a very big Trent Robinson guy

[00:53:06] [SPEAKER_04]: I'm a very big Craig Fitzsibon guy

[00:53:09] [SPEAKER_04]: I love the way they see the game

[00:53:10] [SPEAKER_04]: I love the way they react to the game

[00:53:13] [SPEAKER_04]: I mean even just talking to Fitzgibbon

[00:53:15] [SPEAKER_04]: That I offer a record like just

[00:53:17] [SPEAKER_04]: And you've spoken to him at length

[00:53:19] [SPEAKER_04]: He's just a fascinating dude

[00:53:21] [SPEAKER_04]: Who sees everything

[00:53:23] [SPEAKER_04]: And cares about everything

[00:53:25] [SPEAKER_04]: And I respect that

[00:53:27] [SPEAKER_04]: All the people don't get that time with him but

[00:53:29] [SPEAKER_04]: I'm telling our listeners who don't

[00:53:31] [SPEAKER_04]: Have that time with him he's just

[00:53:32] [SPEAKER_04]: We're in good hands like you may not agree

[00:53:35] [SPEAKER_04]: With everything and he hasn't won a finals game yet

[00:53:37] [SPEAKER_04]: But you were the one TK

[00:53:39] [SPEAKER_04]: Pushing him on me for years

[00:53:41] [SPEAKER_01]: You know one thing that Fitz needs to do

[00:53:43] [SPEAKER_01]: That he needs to copy Robo

[00:53:45] [SPEAKER_01]: Robo does it better than anyone in the Nero

[00:53:46] [SPEAKER_01]: He wears this bloody nice suit every week

[00:53:49] [SPEAKER_01]: And I love a coach because it's back

[00:53:51] [SPEAKER_01]: To the kind of EPL days where you gaffer

[00:53:53] [SPEAKER_01]: He kind of like stood out

[00:53:55] [SPEAKER_01]: Because I think the coach needs to wear something different

[00:53:57] [SPEAKER_01]: To the assistants I think to show that he's the

[00:53:59] [SPEAKER_01]: Fitz is the main man

[00:54:00] [SPEAKER_04]: Fitz is the Polo hoody guy yeah

[00:54:03] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah he is and even look at Benji Marshall

[00:54:04] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm pretty sure the only time the Tigers win is when he wears that suit

[00:54:07] [SPEAKER_01]: So like there's something going on

[00:54:09] [SPEAKER_01]: You look classy you know you set the trend

[00:54:11] [SPEAKER_01]: You're the main man but you it's got to be only him

[00:54:14] [SPEAKER_01]: Wearing that suit no one else is there

[00:54:15] [SPEAKER_04]: Who's going to have that conversation with him

[00:54:17] [SPEAKER_04]: I'm definitely not going to have that conversation with him

[00:54:19] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm texting him now

[00:54:20] [SPEAKER_04]: We've got Wade from Sunshine Coast

[00:54:23] [SPEAKER_04]: He says what a rollercoaster game

[00:54:25] [SPEAKER_04]: Akko is clutch

[00:54:27] [SPEAKER_04]: The service from Braily was 10 out of 10

[00:54:30] [SPEAKER_04]: If anyone hasn't joined us on Blake Island

[00:54:32] [SPEAKER_04]: They have rocks in their heads

[00:54:34] [SPEAKER_04]: One last thing from me

[00:54:36] [SPEAKER_04]: I asked a while ago

[00:54:38] [SPEAKER_04]: What kind of try

[00:54:40] [SPEAKER_04]: Celebrator you were Sam

[00:54:43] [SPEAKER_04]: I'd like to know

[00:54:44] [SPEAKER_04]: Now when we win in Golden Point

[00:54:46] [SPEAKER_04]: With a field goal are you jumping out of your seat going nuts

[00:54:49] [SPEAKER_04]: I think my neighbours saw me jumping

[00:54:51] [SPEAKER_04]: And running around with Joy last night

[00:54:53] [SPEAKER_04]: What a win up up

[00:54:55] [SPEAKER_04]: So Wade

[00:54:56] [SPEAKER_04]: I'll tell you what you should do

[00:54:58] [SPEAKER_04]: If you want to see me during Golden Point

[00:55:00] [SPEAKER_04]: Go find the coverage of the game

[00:55:03] [SPEAKER_04]: And it's right in between

[00:55:05] [SPEAKER_04]: End of 80 and then

[00:55:06] [SPEAKER_04]: The start of Golden Point and they go to the coach

[00:55:08] [SPEAKER_04]: And TK knows this

[00:55:09] [SPEAKER_04]: Good ol' Sam Shnass

[00:55:11] [SPEAKER_04]: He's just hanging out by the coach of Newcastle

[00:55:14] [SPEAKER_04]: I'm actually an image of me

[00:55:16] [SPEAKER_04]: From the window reflecting

[00:55:18] [SPEAKER_04]: I'm not actually right next to him

[00:55:19] [SPEAKER_04]: But it looks like it

[00:55:20] [SPEAKER_04]: And as Josh Bolling said

[00:55:22] [SPEAKER_04]: I was pretty nervous

[00:55:26] [SPEAKER_04]: And I have to say

[00:55:28] [SPEAKER_04]: Because of circumstance

[00:55:29] [SPEAKER_04]: I was not in my seat

[00:55:31] [SPEAKER_04]: I was up with the Sharks staff

[00:55:34] [SPEAKER_04]: And there's room there to sort of move around a little bit

[00:55:36] [SPEAKER_04]: You don't have to sit down

[00:55:37] [SPEAKER_04]: You can walk around a little bit without obstructing too many people

[00:55:40] [SPEAKER_04]: And I was jumping around for Joy when they got that field goal

[00:55:43] [SPEAKER_04]: And then I very quickly

[00:55:44] [SPEAKER_04]: Went to my seats where my son was sitting

[00:55:47] [SPEAKER_04]: And we sang the song together

[00:55:48] [SPEAKER_04]: Which is beautiful but

[00:55:49] [SPEAKER_04]: I'm not a Golden Point guy at TK

[00:55:51] [SPEAKER_04]: I'm one of those old school people that just thinks

[00:55:53] [SPEAKER_04]: It's not for me

[00:55:55] [SPEAKER_04]: Finals absolutely you've got to have it

[00:55:57] [SPEAKER_04]: But I'm happy with the point

[00:55:59] [SPEAKER_04]: That's just how I am like it

[00:56:01] [SPEAKER_04]: I don't think I'm old fashioned in all senses of life

[00:56:04] [SPEAKER_04]: But when it comes to that

[00:56:05] [SPEAKER_04]: I just don't

[00:56:06] [SPEAKER_04]: I understand why it's there

[00:56:08] [SPEAKER_04]: You've got to have a winner and a loser

[00:56:09] [SPEAKER_04]: I just think it was good enough for 100 years

[00:56:11] [SPEAKER_04]: It's kind of good enough now

[00:56:13] [SPEAKER_04]: And I understand the entertainment value of the TV

[00:56:15] [SPEAKER_04]: I get it all

[00:56:16] [SPEAKER_04]: I'm not a Golden Point guy

[00:56:18] [SPEAKER_04]: What were you doing TK when the field goal went over?

[00:56:21] [SPEAKER_01]: I was at the pub because I was watching the UFC

[00:56:23] [SPEAKER_01]: So the UFC actually finished early

[00:56:24] [SPEAKER_01]: I wasn't expecting it to finish so early

[00:56:26] [SPEAKER_01]: It was finished by 230

[00:56:27] [SPEAKER_01]: So realistically had I known that

[00:56:29] [SPEAKER_01]: I actually would have come to the game

[00:56:31] [SPEAKER_01]: But we had had a fair few drinks so I was definitely not

[00:56:33] [SPEAKER_01]: Being able to drive but just back to that Golden Point thing

[00:56:35] [SPEAKER_01]: Sam, I would like to see it

[00:56:37] [SPEAKER_01]: Change into like an NFL style

[00:56:40] [SPEAKER_01]: So what I mean by that is

[00:56:41] [SPEAKER_01]: It can't end with a field goal

[00:56:43] [SPEAKER_01]: Or a penalty goal

[00:56:45] [SPEAKER_01]: It has to end with a try

[00:56:46] [SPEAKER_01]: Otherwise you play the full 10 minutes out

[00:56:49] [SPEAKER_01]: And then obviously if you're ahead

[00:56:50] [SPEAKER_01]: With the field goal you win

[00:56:51] [SPEAKER_01]: Because I think it just kind of kills it a little bit

[00:56:56] [SPEAKER_01]: All the other thing is

[00:56:57] [SPEAKER_01]: I think it's been suggested before that both teams

[00:56:59] [SPEAKER_01]: Do get one point

[00:57:01] [SPEAKER_01]: And then whoever wins in Golden Point

[00:57:04] [SPEAKER_01]: Gets that additional point

[00:57:05] [SPEAKER_04]: I can certainly live with that

[00:57:07] [SPEAKER_04]: I have no problem with that

[00:57:08] [SPEAKER_04]: I think the other stuff that Baz and a few people this week are floating around

[00:57:11] [SPEAKER_04]: Is a little bit cookie with the 3 points

[00:57:13] [SPEAKER_04]: And the 4 points

[00:57:14] [SPEAKER_04]: But I would have no problem with

[00:57:16] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, the losing team getting one point

[00:57:18] [SPEAKER_04]: Because essentially they haven't lost

[00:57:19] [SPEAKER_04]: They've drawn a game and then in crazy time

[00:57:22] [SPEAKER_04]: It's gone on to a win

[00:57:23] [SPEAKER_01]: But who put his paws on? You can't have 3 or 4 points

[00:57:26] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know how that's come up

[00:57:28] [SPEAKER_04]: We had someone called

[00:57:30] [SPEAKER_04]: Gorillaz on YouTube say

[00:57:32] [SPEAKER_04]: Sam, just wondering if you think

[00:57:34] [SPEAKER_04]: Telekai has bulked up this year

[00:57:36] [SPEAKER_04]: Or was he playing at that weight and basically

[00:57:38] [SPEAKER_04]: A second rower

[00:57:39] [SPEAKER_04]: He played strong but I could tell

[00:57:41] [SPEAKER_04]: He's no longer a centre

[00:57:43] [SPEAKER_04]: Although he could still fill in and do a job

[00:57:45] [SPEAKER_04]: Absolutely love the podcast

[00:57:47] [SPEAKER_04]: You got any thoughts on that CK? I need to look up his weight

[00:57:49] [SPEAKER_04]: But does he look like at a consistent weight

[00:57:52] [SPEAKER_04]: Year in year out? Yeah, because he started

[00:57:53] [SPEAKER_01]: In the centres right? So he would play

[00:57:55] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I don't think he, because he was always

[00:57:57] [SPEAKER_01]: Being able to, I think he's just been the same size

[00:57:59] [SPEAKER_01]: All the way through. I just the fact that

[00:58:01] [SPEAKER_01]: I think you'd be seeing him in the middle

[00:58:03] [SPEAKER_01]: I think you're probably seeing him getting more touches

[00:58:05] [SPEAKER_01]: And you're probably seeing him more close up

[00:58:07] [SPEAKER_01]: And things like that

[00:58:08] [SPEAKER_01]: So I just think that maybe it's an eye illusion thing

[00:58:11] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't think he's changed much at all

[00:58:12] [SPEAKER_01]: I think on the weekend, like the

[00:58:15] [SPEAKER_01]: Sorry, who was the writer?

[00:58:16] [SPEAKER_01]: The question there

[00:58:18] [SPEAKER_04]: From Gorillaz

[00:58:20] [SPEAKER_01]: So what Gorillaz was noticing, what we noticed as well

[00:58:23] [SPEAKER_01]: Right, he was great in the tag, unfortunately got caught out

[00:58:25] [SPEAKER_01]: By a guy a couple of times in defence

[00:58:26] [SPEAKER_01]: Like you said really well, I think he's a great

[00:58:29] [SPEAKER_01]: Fill-in if something does happen to Iroh

[00:58:31] [SPEAKER_01]: But Kyle has more than proven himself

[00:58:32] [SPEAKER_01]: And he's part of that back five

[00:58:34] [SPEAKER_01]: And I think that Sifa playing as that number

[00:58:37] [SPEAKER_01]: 14, he really just takes

[00:58:38] [SPEAKER_01]: Us in terms of like

[00:58:40] [SPEAKER_01]: The next step, I think that's kind of

[00:58:42] [SPEAKER_01]: Like part of it is him being part of that mid

[00:58:45] [SPEAKER_01]: Rotation or starting on an edge

[00:58:46] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, when he comes off that bench

[00:58:48] [SPEAKER_04]: He has so much energy and because

[00:58:50] [SPEAKER_04]: He's not playing 80 minutes, it's so effective

[00:58:53] [SPEAKER_04]: Like he's the true impact player

[00:58:54] [SPEAKER_04]: Like you would not want to be tackling that guy

[00:58:57] [SPEAKER_04]: When you've been playing for half an hour

[00:58:59] [SPEAKER_04]: And he just comes on fresh as a daisy

[00:59:00] [SPEAKER_04]: In rips and tears

[00:59:02] [SPEAKER_04]: Scary stuff

[00:59:03] [SPEAKER_04]: Peter has been in touch, he said

[00:59:06] [SPEAKER_04]: We really suffered from only having one specialist

[00:59:09] [SPEAKER_04]: Half

[00:59:09] [SPEAKER_04]: Our attack just seems a bit disorganised at times

[00:59:12] [SPEAKER_04]: Which I think is completely fair. I think that

[00:59:14] [SPEAKER_04]: You know, people saying Ackerson needs to do more

[00:59:16] [SPEAKER_04]: Well, maybe but also

[00:59:18] [SPEAKER_04]: There's only half of him out there

[00:59:19] [SPEAKER_04]: There's half a half out there so

[00:59:22] [SPEAKER_04]: It is going to be a bit disorganised

[00:59:23] [SPEAKER_04]: It's a great point. I also think we suffered

[00:59:26] [SPEAKER_04]: With our bench

[00:59:28] [SPEAKER_04]: When we're at full strength

[00:59:29] [SPEAKER_04]: I'd wager our bench is the best in the comp

[00:59:32] [SPEAKER_04]: But on Sunday

[00:59:33] [SPEAKER_04]: You could feel the game drop off with the rotations

[00:59:36] [SPEAKER_04]: And I agree with that. I definitely

[00:59:38] [SPEAKER_04]: Thought

[00:59:39] [SPEAKER_04]: Once the bench

[00:59:41] [SPEAKER_04]: Got into action, it was not as

[00:59:43] [SPEAKER_04]: Impactful. We saw it

[00:59:44] [SPEAKER_04]: New customers win the rock pretty easily

[00:59:48] [SPEAKER_04]: And

[00:59:48] [SPEAKER_04]: Peter says lastly

[00:59:49] [SPEAKER_04]: I feel Ackerson is starting to edge ahead of tricky

[00:59:52] [SPEAKER_04]: As the preferred number

[00:59:53] [SPEAKER_04]: Two half after Nico

[00:59:55] [SPEAKER_04]: Keep up a great work with the pod

[00:59:57] [SPEAKER_04]: Look forward to them each week. Thanks

[00:59:59] [SPEAKER_04]: That's from Sharky Pete. That's awesome

[01:00:01] [SPEAKER_04]: Thank you so much

[01:00:04] [SPEAKER_04]: The legendary

[01:00:06] [SPEAKER_04]: RCB has been in touch

[01:00:07] [SPEAKER_04]: Returned to the Flamme Aero

[01:00:10] [SPEAKER_04]: Dumb, gritty and

[01:00:11] [SPEAKER_04]: Snuck home

[01:00:15] [SPEAKER_04]: Kofusi probably had his

[01:00:16] [SPEAKER_04]: Best Sharks game

[01:00:16] [SPEAKER_04]: I remember another game where he was

[01:00:19] [SPEAKER_04]: Almost as good but yeah, I think that's a good

[01:00:21] [SPEAKER_04]: Debate to have. It was a very strong game

[01:00:23] [SPEAKER_04]: From Kofusi as you said TK

[01:00:26] [SPEAKER_04]: You also say we actually need

[01:00:28] [SPEAKER_04]: A half back

[01:00:29] [SPEAKER_04]: And we missed Tall Tom's

[01:00:31] [SPEAKER_04]: Slides off the bench

[01:00:32] [SPEAKER_04]: We missed Iroh's defensive

[01:00:34] [SPEAKER_04]: Efforts on the edge

[01:00:36] [SPEAKER_04]: In terms of the 17

[01:00:38] [SPEAKER_04]: When people are fit, I agree that we need

[01:00:40] [SPEAKER_04]: Akko there. He's a great cover guy

[01:00:42] [SPEAKER_04]: Hynes should be 6

[01:00:44] [SPEAKER_04]: Trindle should be 7

[01:00:46] [SPEAKER_04]: For the rest

[01:00:48] [SPEAKER_04]: I would go Akko at 17

[01:00:50] [SPEAKER_04]: Which means you need your 5

[01:00:52] [SPEAKER_04]: Fittest middles to rotate the minutes

[01:00:54] [SPEAKER_04]: And of course you need Britain

[01:00:56] [SPEAKER_04]: and T to play for 80. That's a great point

[01:00:58] [SPEAKER_04]: And that's something when we're talking

[01:01:00] [SPEAKER_04]: About the bench TK

[01:01:01] [SPEAKER_04]: And who I would have

[01:01:03] [SPEAKER_04]: Like RCB's now that I'll just go for the

[01:01:06] [SPEAKER_04]: Fittest guys. So it means

[01:01:08] [SPEAKER_04]: Tuku unfortunately if we're all fit

[01:01:10] [SPEAKER_04]: It's not your time

[01:01:12] [SPEAKER_04]: Thankfully for Royce

[01:01:14] [SPEAKER_04]: His form is through the roof

[01:01:16] [SPEAKER_04]: So yes you can play but if it was

[01:01:17] [SPEAKER_04]: The older Royce who wasn't

[01:01:20] [SPEAKER_04]: Really bringing it, no

[01:01:21] [SPEAKER_04]: Because you're not the fittest

[01:01:22] [SPEAKER_04]: So I would go with that plan

[01:01:25] [SPEAKER_04]: Battle of the fittest if they're all ready to go

[01:01:28] [SPEAKER_01]: You know that question you asked me

[01:01:30] [SPEAKER_01]: Before about entering the finals

[01:01:32] [SPEAKER_01]: I think that's another point

[01:01:33] [SPEAKER_01]: That I didn't bring up. The fact that there's a lot of competition

[01:01:36] [SPEAKER_01]: Now for both the starting

[01:01:38] [SPEAKER_01]: Props and the bench

[01:01:39] [SPEAKER_01]: Which I think will bring out the best in everyone

[01:01:41] [SPEAKER_01]: And then the fact is we do have

[01:01:44] [SPEAKER_01]: The ability to change it up

[01:01:46] [SPEAKER_01]: Any time that we want which I don't think we had

[01:01:48] [SPEAKER_04]: Last year. He's also

[01:01:49] [SPEAKER_04]: Saying that Ueli needs

[01:01:52] [SPEAKER_04]: To actually be fit

[01:01:54] [SPEAKER_04]: And we're going to go to be a real option

[01:01:56] [SPEAKER_04]: So for RCB I think he needs

[01:01:59] [SPEAKER_04]: A month of really good footy

[01:02:00] [SPEAKER_04]: To be considered that elite

[01:02:04] [SPEAKER_04]: Prop

[01:02:05] [SPEAKER_04]: Benchy whatever you want to call him

[01:02:06] [SPEAKER_04]: And I think that's a fair statement

[01:02:07] [SPEAKER_04]: And it's just unfortunate. He's had weeks on

[01:02:10] [SPEAKER_04]: Weeks off. Like we've seen him come in and out of the team

[01:02:12] [SPEAKER_04]: It's hard to

[01:02:13] [SPEAKER_04]: We saw him with a couple of errors in the weekend

[01:02:15] [SPEAKER_04]: And it's hard to kind of get into that routine

[01:02:17] [SPEAKER_04]: If you're not playing regularly

[01:02:18] [SPEAKER_04]: So it's a good point

[01:02:21] [SPEAKER_04]: And I love this one and I want to ask you this TK

[01:02:23] [SPEAKER_04]: He's talking about the Derby

[01:02:25] [SPEAKER_04]: And Michael asked me a question

[01:02:27] [SPEAKER_04]: I think you know how I would answer but let me ask you this

[01:02:30] [SPEAKER_04]: He said there hasn't really been

[01:02:31] [SPEAKER_04]: A Derby day with anything riding on it

[01:02:34] [SPEAKER_04]: For a while. Like when was the last time a Derby

[01:02:36] [SPEAKER_04]: Matted and obviously every Derby matters

[01:02:38] [SPEAKER_04]: But do you agree with that?

[01:02:40] [SPEAKER_04]: That there hasn't really been one that's meant anything

[01:02:42] [SPEAKER_04]: As far as the ladder

[01:02:43] [SPEAKER_04]: And that kind of stuff? Yeah, so usually

[01:02:45] [SPEAKER_01]: It's like one of us a root law

[01:02:47] [SPEAKER_01]: I guess we've had a lot more success over the last 10 years

[01:02:49] [SPEAKER_01]: Than the Dragons have

[01:02:50] [SPEAKER_01]: But before that

[01:02:51] [SPEAKER_01]: Before Flano's little period

[01:02:53] [SPEAKER_01]: It was probably the flip side right

[01:02:55] [SPEAKER_01]: Because then they were in the top 4

[01:02:57] [SPEAKER_01]: They were winning premierships, we weren't

[01:02:58] [SPEAKER_01]: So I guess it has been a little while

[01:03:01] [SPEAKER_01]: Where we're both contending right

[01:03:03] [SPEAKER_01]: And I guess the Flano factor puts

[01:03:04] [SPEAKER_01]: Another kind of emphasis on here

[01:03:07] [SPEAKER_01]: But the 4, the 8 for them

[01:03:09] [SPEAKER_01]: Flano and then

[01:03:11] [SPEAKER_01]: There's a whole heap of different things happening

[01:03:13] [SPEAKER_01]: Like yeah, I do think there's this

[01:03:15] [SPEAKER_01]: Probably the first time in a while

[01:03:17] [SPEAKER_01]: That we're having two true top 8 contenders

[01:03:20] [SPEAKER_01]: Actually vying in a game

[01:03:22] [SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, bring it on.

[01:03:23] [SPEAKER_04]: Adam has written in and said

[01:03:25] [SPEAKER_04]: If I'm coach when everyone's fit

[01:03:27] [SPEAKER_04]: I'm dropping either Trindle or Heinz

[01:03:30] [SPEAKER_04]: You've got to have Akko in that team

[01:03:32] [SPEAKER_04]: A couple of weeks ago I questioned

[01:03:34] [SPEAKER_04]: If Heinz had enough mongrel

[01:03:37] [SPEAKER_04]: Sunday's effort by Akko was what I meant by mongrel

[01:03:40] [SPEAKER_04]: Mental mongrel as much as brave mongrel

[01:03:43] [SPEAKER_04]: Maloney had it

[01:03:44] [SPEAKER_04]: And Akko has it

[01:03:46] [SPEAKER_04]: One try, one try

[01:03:48] [SPEAKER_04]: See his clutch goal from the sideline

[01:03:49] [SPEAKER_04]: Feel goal, golden point

[01:03:51] [SPEAKER_04]: So far, shark's player of the year

[01:03:53] [SPEAKER_04]: Not to mention possible NRL

[01:03:55] [SPEAKER_04]: Rookie of the year

[01:03:57] [SPEAKER_04]: Great first 7 minutes

[01:03:58] [SPEAKER_04]: Great last 7 minutes

[01:03:59] [SPEAKER_04]: The rest was rank

[01:04:00] [SPEAKER_04]: He also says I don't think the ground

[01:04:02] [SPEAKER_04]: Announcers have been listening to the podcast

[01:04:04] [SPEAKER_04]: Cheers, thanks to the pods

[01:04:06] [SPEAKER_04]: That's from Adam

[01:04:06] [SPEAKER_04]: So

[01:04:08] [SPEAKER_04]: Adam's got Akko in

[01:04:09] [SPEAKER_04]: You know, starting half

[01:04:10] [SPEAKER_04]: What do you think about that?

[01:04:12] [SPEAKER_01]: That's fair

[01:04:12] [SPEAKER_01]: I think he's

[01:04:13] [SPEAKER_01]: Like we spoke about before

[01:04:16] [SPEAKER_01]: If we go conservative

[01:04:17] [SPEAKER_01]: Which is the coach's style

[01:04:19] [SPEAKER_01]: Or what's going to be tricky in Heinz

[01:04:21] [SPEAKER_01]: But if he wants to kind of

[01:04:22] [SPEAKER_01]: Show something that probably has been working better

[01:04:25] [SPEAKER_01]: Then I think that tricky

[01:04:26] [SPEAKER_01]: Not tricky

[01:04:27] [SPEAKER_01]: That Akko and Heinz, I think he's your pair

[01:04:30] [SPEAKER_04]: Okay

[01:04:31] [SPEAKER_04]: Different Adam has written in

[01:04:32] [SPEAKER_04]: And talking about the field goal attempts

[01:04:36] [SPEAKER_04]: He was talking about how it was hard to see

[01:04:39] [SPEAKER_04]: A little bit at the ground

[01:04:40] [SPEAKER_04]: But he knew that when Akko kicked the field goal

[01:04:43] [SPEAKER_04]: The C supporters behind the posts

[01:04:44] [SPEAKER_04]: All jumped in the air together

[01:04:45] [SPEAKER_04]: I knew it had gone through

[01:04:46] [SPEAKER_04]: What a relief

[01:04:47] [SPEAKER_04]: It was fun to be there

[01:04:49] [SPEAKER_04]: We didn't seem to have the sufficient energy

[01:04:51] [SPEAKER_04]: To get on top of the Knights forwards

[01:04:53] [SPEAKER_04]: And to speed up our game

[01:04:55] [SPEAKER_04]: Throughout the game

[01:04:57] [SPEAKER_04]: I'm wondering, and you can tell me about this TK

[01:04:59] [SPEAKER_04]: Being the elite athlete that you are

[01:05:01] [SPEAKER_04]: And people ask me this stuff

[01:05:02] [SPEAKER_04]: And I just sort of shrug my shoulders

[01:05:03] [SPEAKER_04]: And go, oh no

[01:05:05] [SPEAKER_04]: I've been wondering whether our pregame warm-up

[01:05:07] [SPEAKER_04]: Sometimes takes too much energy out of the guys

[01:05:09] [SPEAKER_04]: If they're smashing bags and sprinting at full tilt

[01:05:13] [SPEAKER_04]: They've naturally lost that

[01:05:15] [SPEAKER_04]: Potentially energy used to do the work prior to kickoff

[01:05:18] [SPEAKER_04]: I'm no fitness expert

[01:05:20] [SPEAKER_04]: But I often think we need to warm up for less time

[01:05:22] [SPEAKER_04]: And go easier on the boys

[01:05:23] [SPEAKER_04]: So they're warm but retain their energy for the game

[01:05:26] [SPEAKER_04]: What are your thoughts on that, TK?

[01:05:29] [SPEAKER_01]: They're wearing hot monitors

[01:05:30] [SPEAKER_01]: They're getting monitored

[01:05:31] [SPEAKER_01]: For every little inch that they're doing

[01:05:33] [SPEAKER_01]: Like they're not getting overdone at all

[01:05:35] [SPEAKER_01]: So it's actually quite monitored

[01:05:37] [SPEAKER_01]: It's probably what they need to be doing out there

[01:05:39] [SPEAKER_01]: Because essentially they've got a lot of sport science

[01:05:42] [SPEAKER_01]: Into everything that they're doing these days

[01:05:44] [SPEAKER_01]: So if they thought that it was an overkill

[01:05:47] [SPEAKER_01]: They definitely would be starting to reduce it

[01:05:48] [SPEAKER_01]: But there's such extreme athletes now there as well

[01:05:52] [SPEAKER_01]: That essentially doing a 25 minute warm-up

[01:05:56] [SPEAKER_01]: Plus an 80 minute game

[01:05:57] [SPEAKER_01]: Most of them could probably play another game on top

[01:06:01] [SPEAKER_01]: That's how it fits some of them

[01:06:02] [SPEAKER_04]: I think that, and I say this through respect

[01:06:04] [SPEAKER_04]: Like as fans we sort of...

[01:06:06] [SPEAKER_04]: And he said he's no fitness expert

[01:06:08] [SPEAKER_04]: We assume that if we start poorly

[01:06:11] [SPEAKER_04]: There must be a reason, you know

[01:06:12] [SPEAKER_04]: Why do we start poor?

[01:06:13] [SPEAKER_04]: Although we're out there warming up too long

[01:06:14] [SPEAKER_04]: I mean I said this on a few of the other pods

[01:06:17] [SPEAKER_04]: But I got the members OK to go out

[01:06:20] [SPEAKER_04]: And check out the warm-up with my son

[01:06:22] [SPEAKER_04]: And they go for it pretty hard

[01:06:24] [SPEAKER_04]: We were a couple of metres away from them

[01:06:26] [SPEAKER_04]: And they were just bashing each other

[01:06:28] [SPEAKER_04]: And even I was like, eh, okay

[01:06:30] [SPEAKER_04]: But as you say, they're all monitored

[01:06:32] [SPEAKER_04]: They're experts everywhere they look

[01:06:34] [SPEAKER_04]: They're monitoring it every second

[01:06:36] [SPEAKER_04]: Even at training

[01:06:37] [SPEAKER_04]: Like it's all monitored, it's all recorded

[01:06:40] [SPEAKER_04]: It's all analysed

[01:06:42] [SPEAKER_04]: They know the second that some person's gone too hard

[01:06:44] [SPEAKER_01]: You know what Sam?

[01:06:45] [SPEAKER_01]: That would have been a really good question in the 90s

[01:06:47] [SPEAKER_01]: Because essentially that would have been

[01:06:49] [SPEAKER_01]: A very relevant question

[01:06:51] [SPEAKER_01]: Because essentially the sports science

[01:06:52] [SPEAKER_01]: Was just totally different

[01:06:53] [SPEAKER_01]: The way they trained was totally different

[01:06:55] [SPEAKER_01]: Like they were doing a lot of road runs

[01:06:56] [SPEAKER_01]: And all sorts of like things back in the day

[01:06:58] [SPEAKER_01]: Right, so and they weren't doing much

[01:07:00] [SPEAKER_01]: Kind of strength work

[01:07:01] [SPEAKER_01]: And like yeah, it's just kind of the science right now

[01:07:04] [SPEAKER_01]: It's just at an absolute premium level

[01:07:06] [SPEAKER_01]: That it matches kind of what teams are doing

[01:07:09] [SPEAKER_01]: All over America, all over England

[01:07:11] [SPEAKER_01]: Like it is very rep...

[01:07:13] [SPEAKER_01]: Like the way information can spread

[01:07:16] [SPEAKER_01]: And the way that they all speak

[01:07:18] [SPEAKER_01]: Like a few of my mates are in strength and conditioning

[01:07:19] [SPEAKER_01]: One of them works with the Tigers

[01:07:21] [SPEAKER_01]: And they talk like industry

[01:07:23] [SPEAKER_01]: They always talk with like

[01:07:25] [SPEAKER_01]: Just say if you're one coach for the NRL

[01:07:27] [SPEAKER_01]: You're probably talking to someone in England rugby

[01:07:29] [SPEAKER_01]: Or someone in the NFL

[01:07:30] [SPEAKER_01]: Like there's a lot of information being shared

[01:07:33] [SPEAKER_01]: Everywhere right around the world

[01:07:35] [SPEAKER_01]: Which didn't happen in previous years

[01:07:36] [SPEAKER_01]: So a lot of smart people behind the scenes

[01:07:38] [SPEAKER_01]: So it's one of those things that...

[01:07:40] [SPEAKER_01]: I think it's a great question though

[01:07:41] [SPEAKER_01]: Like it is a fantastic question

[01:07:43] [SPEAKER_01]: Because it's a legitimate question

[01:07:45] [SPEAKER_01]: Especially if you don't...

[01:07:46] [SPEAKER_01]: You're not in that space

[01:07:47] [SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, essentially

[01:07:48] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, they're in very good hands

[01:07:50] [SPEAKER_04]: And it's all sort of short, sharp bursts as well

[01:07:53] [SPEAKER_04]: It's not half an hour of constant contact

[01:07:56] [SPEAKER_04]: And constant running

[01:07:57] [SPEAKER_04]: Like there's little bursts where they don't do things

[01:08:00] [SPEAKER_04]: Or they're passing the ball

[01:08:01] [SPEAKER_04]: It's not half an hour of high impact

[01:08:04] [SPEAKER_04]: But I was surprised

[01:08:06] [SPEAKER_04]: And I mentioned Jack Williams in particular

[01:08:07] [SPEAKER_04]: He was just bashing by because it was hilarious

[01:08:09] [SPEAKER_04]: It was like, mate, I'll give you 50 bucks

[01:08:12] [SPEAKER_04]: If you just stay around for a couple more years

[01:08:15] [SPEAKER_04]: Trish has been in touch and said

[01:08:17] [SPEAKER_04]: Love the podcast

[01:08:17] [SPEAKER_04]: We really appreciate that

[01:08:19] [SPEAKER_04]: Thanks Trish

[01:08:20] [SPEAKER_04]: Michael was in touch and said

[01:08:22] [SPEAKER_04]: How good is the NRLW going?

[01:08:24] [SPEAKER_04]: We haven't touched on that yet, TK

[01:08:26] [SPEAKER_04]: Which we should

[01:08:26] [SPEAKER_04]: I've been trying to do it in every podcast

[01:08:28] [SPEAKER_04]: But Michael suggested that after a win

[01:08:31] [SPEAKER_04]: We should play the women's NRLW song

[01:08:34] [SPEAKER_04]: Which has just got a slight change of lyrics

[01:08:38] [SPEAKER_04]: And it says the girls in the black, white and blue

[01:08:40] [SPEAKER_04]: Which is awesome

[01:08:41] [SPEAKER_04]: We might get to that

[01:08:42] [SPEAKER_04]: We'll see what happens, Michael

[01:08:43] [SPEAKER_04]: But I appreciate the idea

[01:08:46] [SPEAKER_04]: They're killing it, aren't they TK?

[01:08:48] [SPEAKER_04]: Like top of the table 4-0

[01:08:49] [SPEAKER_04]: Even with some injuries

[01:08:51] [SPEAKER_04]: Playing a really good brand

[01:08:53] [SPEAKER_04]: HH of injuries, haven't they?

[01:08:53] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, so young Jade is out for the year

[01:08:56] [SPEAKER_04]: Jade?

[01:08:57] [SPEAKER_04]: Emma's back

[01:08:59] [SPEAKER_04]: It's a bit of a jigsaw puzzle

[01:09:00] [SPEAKER_04]: And it's such a short season

[01:09:02] [SPEAKER_04]: That you really need to make the most of it

[01:09:03] [SPEAKER_04]: They're 4-0, which is just better than you could have imagined

[01:09:07] [SPEAKER_04]: And a couple more wins

[01:09:08] [SPEAKER_04]: I'm not even joking

[01:09:09] [SPEAKER_04]: They clinch a finals place

[01:09:12] [SPEAKER_01]: Tiana's been absolutely frightening

[01:09:13] [SPEAKER_04]: She's all heart and a lot of skill too

[01:09:17] [SPEAKER_01]: She's a good commentator too

[01:09:18] [SPEAKER_01]: I enjoy her comments

[01:09:19] [SPEAKER_01]: When she does Friday night footage

[01:09:21] [SPEAKER_04]: Absolutely, she's a great ambassador

[01:09:24] [SPEAKER_04]: So this person is

[01:09:27] [SPEAKER_04]: Going by the name of Ty

[01:09:29] [SPEAKER_04]: I'm just going to call him Ty

[01:09:31] [SPEAKER_04]: What a great looking side for the Derby

[01:09:33] [SPEAKER_04]: Check out the bench

[01:09:34] [SPEAKER_04]: Who makes Way for Siffer when he's back

[01:09:37] [SPEAKER_04]: I'm thinking tall Tom as much as I'm a fan

[01:09:40] [SPEAKER_04]: You add Siffer and Nico and we have full strength

[01:09:42] [SPEAKER_04]: And Katowra of course

[01:09:44] [SPEAKER_04]: Any thoughts on that

[01:09:46] [SPEAKER_04]: Whenever one's back

[01:09:47] [SPEAKER_04]: Who makes Way for Siffer on that bench?

[01:09:50] [SPEAKER_01]: It's the ultimate question right now Sam

[01:09:52] [SPEAKER_01]: But I think that

[01:09:54] [SPEAKER_01]: I think Jack and Tall Tom play really well off the bench together

[01:09:57] [SPEAKER_01]: And then Siffer's got a one spot

[01:09:58] [SPEAKER_01]: And then you spoke about Royce being in career

[01:10:01] [SPEAKER_01]: So I think maybe Brayden makes Way

[01:10:03] [SPEAKER_01]: Because of what you said before, health

[01:10:05] [SPEAKER_01]: Like you want to go out that you can

[01:10:07] [SPEAKER_01]: Kind of rely on each week

[01:10:08] [SPEAKER_01]: And I don't know if we can get that out of Brayden at the moment

[01:10:10] [SPEAKER_04]: I'm going to guess at worst

[01:10:12] [SPEAKER_04]: He goes back to Newtown

[01:10:13] [SPEAKER_04]: Get some minutes in

[01:10:15] [SPEAKER_04]: And then either

[01:10:17] [SPEAKER_04]: Out of good form or if there's an injury

[01:10:19] [SPEAKER_04]: He comes straight back in

[01:10:20] [SPEAKER_04]: As the Hamlin and Wellie we love

[01:10:22] [SPEAKER_04]: But we'll see how he goes this week

[01:10:24] [SPEAKER_04]: Name to play this week again so

[01:10:27] [SPEAKER_04]: I believe in the guy

[01:10:28] [SPEAKER_04]: I really do it's just been a bad year for him with injuries

[01:10:30] [SPEAKER_00]: Is that working by Sam the Newtown thing?

[01:10:33] [SPEAKER_01]: They've tried it a few times now

[01:10:34] [SPEAKER_04]: Well it worked for Toby

[01:10:35] [SPEAKER_01]: But I think they're in different scenario

[01:10:37] [SPEAKER_01]: I think Toby was more form

[01:10:38] [SPEAKER_01]: I think Brayden's more kind of body

[01:10:40] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah what do you think it might be a big risk or something

[01:10:43] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah a little bit of big risk

[01:10:45] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know getting him in it's down there

[01:10:47] [SPEAKER_01]: Is doing anything really for him

[01:10:49] [SPEAKER_01]: He's done it like 2 or 3 times now

[01:10:50] [SPEAKER_01]: And then he's come back and just literally got injured

[01:10:52] [SPEAKER_01]: Maybe it's best we just carry him as the 18th man

[01:10:55] [SPEAKER_01]: If there's an injury then essentially comes

[01:10:57] [SPEAKER_01]: The first man into the squad

[01:10:58] [SPEAKER_04]: Sadi also said I heard you talking about the competition

[01:11:00] [SPEAKER_04]: For members to vote on a half time song

[01:11:02] [SPEAKER_04]: I'd like to see more of this

[01:11:04] [SPEAKER_04]: Got me thinking why not bring back heroes by David Bowie

[01:11:08] [SPEAKER_04]: It was popular back when

[01:11:09] [SPEAKER_04]: We used it for ET's retirement season

[01:11:11] [SPEAKER_04]: The Pepsi days and I remember it working well cheers

[01:11:14] [SPEAKER_04]: I mean look you should drop the club a line

[01:11:17] [SPEAKER_04]: And say you enjoyed that process

[01:11:18] [SPEAKER_04]: And we'll see what comes of it

[01:11:20] [SPEAKER_04]: I think I don't know if I'm out of line

[01:11:22] [SPEAKER_04]: In saying this week might be old boys

[01:11:24] [SPEAKER_04]: No sorry

[01:11:25] [SPEAKER_04]: The Warriors game might be old boys day

[01:11:28] [SPEAKER_04]: So you might see a bit of retroness happening there

[01:11:30] [SPEAKER_01]: Sam with the music

[01:11:32] [SPEAKER_01]: You being in the music scene

[01:11:33] [SPEAKER_01]: Do they have to play a royalty

[01:11:34] [SPEAKER_01]: If they use the song at half time

[01:11:36] [SPEAKER_04]: I mean they should be

[01:11:37] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah I don't know

[01:11:38] [SPEAKER_01]: How well that might be the reason

[01:11:40] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah it could be

[01:11:42] [SPEAKER_04]: Most songs these days are usable

[01:11:44] [SPEAKER_04]: If you pay for them in that environment

[01:11:47] [SPEAKER_04]: It's different if you're using it

[01:11:49] [SPEAKER_04]: For a commercial

[01:11:51] [SPEAKER_04]: At a movie theater like they did in the 90s

[01:11:53] [SPEAKER_04]: Whatever like that's big bucks

[01:11:55] [SPEAKER_04]: Playing at your stadium

[01:11:57] [SPEAKER_04]: As far as I know is probably the same

[01:11:58] [SPEAKER_04]: As playing a Sam Shnazzi song you know what I mean

[01:12:00] [SPEAKER_04]: I think it's a small fee that you pay

[01:12:03] [SPEAKER_04]: But it could be

[01:12:03] [SPEAKER_04]: It could be I'm not sure

[01:12:05] [SPEAKER_04]: My father asked our friend Jess Chitch about that kind of stuff

[01:12:08] [SPEAKER_04]: Our friend Smitty's replied a lot

[01:12:10] [SPEAKER_04]: Oh I do want to give a shout out to our friend

[01:12:12] [SPEAKER_04]: Donnie Rogers

[01:12:14] [SPEAKER_04]: Part of the Rogers clan

[01:12:15] [SPEAKER_04]: Of course friend of the show

[01:12:17] [SPEAKER_04]: Now I don't know how he's gone to TK

[01:12:19] [SPEAKER_04]: Because we've been recording while this has been happening

[01:12:21] [SPEAKER_04]: But tonight pre-recorded for him

[01:12:25] [SPEAKER_04]: He was on the voice

[01:12:26] [SPEAKER_04]: Dude

[01:12:27] [SPEAKER_04]: So if people don't know Don Rogers

[01:12:29] [SPEAKER_04]: He played lower grades for the Sharks

[01:12:31] [SPEAKER_04]: Brother is Maddie

[01:12:32] [SPEAKER_04]: His dad Steve

[01:12:34] [SPEAKER_04]: He's been on Sharks a lot in the early years

[01:12:36] [SPEAKER_04]: Great fellow, good friend of mine

[01:12:38] [SPEAKER_04]: He recently in the last

[01:12:40] [SPEAKER_04]: I don't know two or three years picked up a guitar

[01:12:43] [SPEAKER_04]: And started playing some country music

[01:12:44] [SPEAKER_04]: And people were like oh you're pretty good

[01:12:46] [SPEAKER_04]: You're pretty good and he's just been doing it

[01:12:49] [SPEAKER_04]: Non-stop every day

[01:12:50] [SPEAKER_04]: Started playing gigs, practicing every day

[01:12:53] [SPEAKER_04]: He and I have been talking a lot

[01:12:55] [SPEAKER_04]: Particularly about six months

[01:12:56] [SPEAKER_04]: When he was sort of finding his feet in the biz

[01:12:59] [SPEAKER_04]: He's taken the step of

[01:13:01] [SPEAKER_04]: Trying out for the voice

[01:13:03] [SPEAKER_04]: And he's on TV tonight

[01:13:05] [SPEAKER_04]: I don't know people who are listening now

[01:13:07] [SPEAKER_04]: Will know what the result was

[01:13:08] [SPEAKER_04]: Whether people turned around for him or not

[01:13:09] [SPEAKER_04]: However that works

[01:13:10] [SPEAKER_04]: But wonder if Donnie a shout out

[01:13:13] [SPEAKER_04]: If he progresses in the show

[01:13:14] [SPEAKER_04]: If hopefully he does get behind him

[01:13:16] [SPEAKER_04]: Great fellow and really talented guy

[01:13:19] [SPEAKER_04]: What he's doing got a great grizzly voice

[01:13:21] [SPEAKER_04]: TK, grizzly kind of

[01:13:23] [SPEAKER_04]: A little bit of bourbon and coke

[01:13:25] [SPEAKER_01]: Is it live Sam when they put the voice on?

[01:13:27] [SPEAKER_01]: Is it essentially how he's doing

[01:13:29] [SPEAKER_04]: It's pre-recorded

[01:13:30] [SPEAKER_04]: So I'm not sure how it went down

[01:13:32] [SPEAKER_04]: But then I think it'll become live

[01:13:34] [SPEAKER_04]: In the coming weeks for the successful people

[01:13:36] [SPEAKER_04]: So essentially if people turn around

[01:13:38] [SPEAKER_04]: And want him on the show

[01:13:39] [SPEAKER_04]: He progresses, if they don't

[01:13:41] [SPEAKER_04]: They'll say hey you're really good keep trying

[01:13:42] [SPEAKER_04]: It's all very positive

[01:13:44] [SPEAKER_04]: So we'll see what happens

[01:13:45] [SPEAKER_04]: If he keeps going we'll definitely support him

[01:13:47] [SPEAKER_04]: He's not the first music TV

[01:13:49] [SPEAKER_04]: Show person we've got across the line

[01:13:51] [SPEAKER_04]: So hopefully we can get two in one year

[01:13:54] [SPEAKER_04]: But we send our thoughts to Donnie

[01:13:56] [SPEAKER_04]: I love him because he's a great fellow

[01:13:58] [SPEAKER_04]: Smash it Donnie

[01:13:59] [SPEAKER_04]: I did want to give a shout out to a fella

[01:14:01] [SPEAKER_04]: Called Mitch Kelly, he's got a podcast called

[01:14:03] [SPEAKER_04]: Life's a Mitch

[01:14:04] [SPEAKER_04]: And I was lucky enough to be a guest

[01:14:07] [SPEAKER_04]: On that show today

[01:14:08] [SPEAKER_04]: That podcast is out on his stream

[01:14:12] [SPEAKER_04]: It's called Life's a Mitch

[01:14:13] [SPEAKER_04]: As in MITCH

[01:14:15] [SPEAKER_04]: And we talk about Sharkcast a lot

[01:14:17] [SPEAKER_04]: We talk about my life as a musician

[01:14:20] [SPEAKER_04]: Etc

[01:14:21] [SPEAKER_04]: And he talks about his life

[01:14:22] [SPEAKER_04]: It's like two creators coming together

[01:14:23] [SPEAKER_04]: And having a chat, it's been a long time coming

[01:14:26] [SPEAKER_04]: I'm going to put up an edited version

[01:14:28] [SPEAKER_04]: On our feed TK, because there's a lot of stuff

[01:14:30] [SPEAKER_04]: That probably just doesn't relate to

[01:14:33] [SPEAKER_04]: What Shark fans want to hear

[01:14:34] [SPEAKER_04]: But there is some Shark content on there

[01:14:36] [SPEAKER_04]: So if you want the unedited version

[01:14:38] [SPEAKER_04]: Go check out Mitch's podcast

[01:14:40] [SPEAKER_04]: And yeah you can have a laugh

[01:14:42] [SPEAKER_04]: At how silly my life is

[01:14:44] [SPEAKER_04]: Now, any word on the

[01:14:46] [SPEAKER_04]: Hall of Fame

[01:14:47] [SPEAKER_04]: The immortal thingamajiggy

[01:14:49] [SPEAKER_04]: NRL happening tonight? Any breaking news?

[01:14:52] [SPEAKER_01]: All I've seen is the big three

[01:14:54] [SPEAKER_01]: I think got it inducted

[01:14:56] [SPEAKER_01]: Okay

[01:14:56] [SPEAKER_01]: Into the Hall of Fame

[01:14:58] [SPEAKER_01]: And yeah

[01:15:01] [SPEAKER_01]: Looks like the 14th immortal is Ron Coop

[01:15:03] [SPEAKER_04]: Oh that's him

[01:15:06] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah 14th immortal

[01:15:08] [SPEAKER_01]: So it's done

[01:15:10] [SPEAKER_01]: 24th a duckty is Cameron Smith

[01:15:13] [SPEAKER_01]: Cooper Cronk

[01:15:15] [SPEAKER_04]: And but it looks like Ron Coop

[01:15:16] [SPEAKER_04]: Is your new immortal

[01:15:19] [SPEAKER_04]: Ronny Coot

[01:15:21] [SPEAKER_04]: Now

[01:15:22] [SPEAKER_04]: Where are we going here with the

[01:15:24] [SPEAKER_04]: The male, the male is getting out of hand

[01:15:26] [SPEAKER_04]: I need an assistant, swear to god

[01:15:28] [SPEAKER_04]: Alright let's go over here TK

[01:15:30] [SPEAKER_04]: Here we go

[01:15:32] [SPEAKER_04]: Now this fella does not mince words

[01:15:35] [SPEAKER_04]: I'm going to have to try and

[01:15:36] [SPEAKER_04]: Get this right

[01:15:38] [SPEAKER_04]: This is from our friend Brent

[01:15:39] [SPEAKER_04]: And he feels the sharks man

[01:15:42] [SPEAKER_04]: He feels them

[01:15:43] [SPEAKER_04]: He said that was the most

[01:15:44] [SPEAKER_04]: My heart has beaten

[01:15:48] [SPEAKER_04]: Like a hundred times faster than normal

[01:15:50] [SPEAKER_04]: We almost blew it but hung in there to get the win

[01:15:52] [SPEAKER_04]: However, because Brent

[01:15:54] [SPEAKER_04]: And he went, I'm saying this

[01:15:56] [SPEAKER_04]: He's more on the negative train

[01:15:57] [SPEAKER_04]: Than the positive train

[01:15:59] [SPEAKER_04]: Still not convinced where anywhere near where we should be

[01:16:01] [SPEAKER_04]: We had a lot of team changes

[01:16:03] [SPEAKER_04]: That's not what is fault

[01:16:05] [SPEAKER_04]: But with so many changes we had problems

[01:16:07] [SPEAKER_04]: No halves leading our attack

[01:16:09] [SPEAKER_04]: We did miss tricky and Niko

[01:16:12] [SPEAKER_04]: So he understands why we're like that

[01:16:14] [SPEAKER_04]: But he's not happy about it

[01:16:15] [SPEAKER_04]: He's on the stone street train

[01:16:17] [SPEAKER_04]: He thinks he should have played instead of Ronaldo

[01:16:18] [SPEAKER_04]: Not being a hundred percent fit

[01:16:20] [SPEAKER_04]: They're lucky they got home

[01:16:22] [SPEAKER_04]: Hope Trindle is back next week against a team

[01:16:25] [SPEAKER_04]: I loathe the little sister

[01:16:28] [SPEAKER_04]: The merging losers

[01:16:29] [SPEAKER_04]: Now you're talking my language

[01:16:33] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah so Brent appreciates all that

[01:16:36] [SPEAKER_04]: Up up he says

[01:16:36] [SPEAKER_04]: Big fan of the team Brent, he feels it

[01:16:40] [SPEAKER_04]: And the word lucky

[01:16:41] [SPEAKER_04]: I myself used

[01:16:44] [SPEAKER_04]: On Sunday night in the post game show

[01:16:46] [SPEAKER_04]: With Gazz but I kind of took it back

[01:16:48] [SPEAKER_04]: Because you know I am a believer

[01:16:49] [SPEAKER_04]: In sometimes you do make your own luck

[01:16:52] [SPEAKER_04]: TK and I thought

[01:16:53] [SPEAKER_04]: They fought their way back into it

[01:16:55] [SPEAKER_04]: The last ten minutes go watch it again

[01:16:57] [SPEAKER_04]: If you haven't watched it back

[01:16:59] [SPEAKER_04]: Like they were fighting hard

[01:17:02] [SPEAKER_04]: For every moment

[01:17:03] [SPEAKER_04]: I can't remember when it was

[01:17:04] [SPEAKER_04]: It might have been when Atkinson took the penalty

[01:17:07] [SPEAKER_04]: Shot we tend to go

[01:17:09] [SPEAKER_04]: It was a team huddle, it looked intense

[01:17:12] [SPEAKER_04]: And then we went away with it

[01:17:13] [SPEAKER_01]: So I thought they

[01:17:15] [SPEAKER_01]: They earned it

[01:17:16] [SPEAKER_01]: Good teams find ways to win semi

[01:17:17] [SPEAKER_01]: So that's exactly what happened

[01:17:19] [SPEAKER_04]: This is from Paul

[01:17:21] [SPEAKER_04]: He calls himself policeman Paul from Melbourne

[01:17:23] [SPEAKER_04]: So I don't really know what that means

[01:17:25] [SPEAKER_04]: But maybe he's a policeman I'm not sure

[01:17:27] [SPEAKER_04]: I guess that's what it means

[01:17:28] [SPEAKER_04]: From Melbourne, Shia boy for 30 years

[01:17:30] [SPEAKER_04]: Moved down south

[01:17:32] [SPEAKER_04]: Wondering what you think of this

[01:17:33] [SPEAKER_04]: Now this is a bit kooky Paul

[01:17:34] [SPEAKER_04]: And I'll see what TK thinks about it

[01:17:36] [SPEAKER_04]: It's not too kooky but it's something we can do that before

[01:17:39] [SPEAKER_04]: A five or six point try idea

[01:17:42] [SPEAKER_04]: If a team scores a try

[01:17:45] [SPEAKER_04]: With the ball starting in their own half

[01:17:47] [SPEAKER_04]: You get a point or two more

[01:17:49] [SPEAKER_04]: For that result

[01:17:49] [SPEAKER_04]: So long range try

[01:17:51] [SPEAKER_04]: He wants to bump up the points

[01:17:53] [SPEAKER_04]: It would get the game a bit more creative

[01:17:55] [SPEAKER_04]: Than the current block plays and kick on the fifth tackle

[01:17:58] [SPEAKER_04]: What are your thoughts?

[01:17:59] [SPEAKER_04]: PS love your podcast

[01:18:00] [SPEAKER_04]: Well I appreciate that policeman Paul

[01:18:02] [SPEAKER_04]: Look I like the fact that you're thinking ahead of the game

[01:18:06] [SPEAKER_04]: And you want to get more creative

[01:18:07] [SPEAKER_04]: I'm not a fan of the block plays

[01:18:09] [SPEAKER_04]: That's why I love the NRLW so much

[01:18:11] [SPEAKER_04]: But

[01:18:12] [SPEAKER_04]: It's a bit too kooky for me Paul

[01:18:14] [SPEAKER_04]: What do you think TK?

[01:18:15] [SPEAKER_01]: Maybe if they redo the nine's

[01:18:17] [SPEAKER_01]: I would love to see it in that

[01:18:18] [SPEAKER_01]: But in terms of like an NRL standard

[01:18:21] [SPEAKER_01]: Then unfortunately

[01:18:22] [SPEAKER_01]: It's good to hear him

[01:18:24] [SPEAKER_01]: Thinking outside the box

[01:18:26] [SPEAKER_01]: Different ideas, innovation

[01:18:29] [SPEAKER_01]: Maybe they can try it in your South Wales Cup

[01:18:30] [SPEAKER_01]: It's a little bit too

[01:18:32] [SPEAKER_04]: Super rugby for me right?

[01:18:34] [SPEAKER_04]: Isn't that what happens?

[01:18:36] [SPEAKER_04]: Not so much the points but the competition points

[01:18:38] [SPEAKER_04]: And the bonus points

[01:18:40] [SPEAKER_04]: And yeah I don't know

[01:18:43] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't think it changes anything anyway

[01:18:44] [SPEAKER_01]: When teams score long range tries

[01:18:47] [SPEAKER_01]: They're not attempting to score long range tries

[01:18:50] [SPEAKER_01]: It just happens naturally if that makes sense

[01:18:52] [SPEAKER_04]: It does make sense

[01:18:53] [SPEAKER_04]: I'll tell you who defends long range tries really well

[01:18:55] [SPEAKER_04]: The Cornell sharks

[01:18:56] [SPEAKER_04]: They've barely given up one all year

[01:18:58] [SPEAKER_04]: It's been something I've been looking at in the stats

[01:19:01] [SPEAKER_04]: And their defence

[01:19:03] [SPEAKER_04]: Their defence is not spoken about enough

[01:19:07] [SPEAKER_04]: And some of the channels

[01:19:08] [SPEAKER_04]: In there on the field

[01:19:10] [SPEAKER_04]: If you think of it as left

[01:19:11] [SPEAKER_04]: Left touch centre right right touch

[01:19:13] [SPEAKER_04]: Some of the channels there

[01:19:16] [SPEAKER_04]: For the sharks

[01:19:17] [SPEAKER_04]: Top of the NRL

[01:19:18] [SPEAKER_04]: Like it's

[01:19:20] [SPEAKER_04]: Overall the defence is probably top 3 top 4

[01:19:23] [SPEAKER_04]: But

[01:19:24] [SPEAKER_04]: There are some parts of that field that you cannot get through

[01:19:27] [SPEAKER_04]: So

[01:19:28] [SPEAKER_04]: I think that the Fitzgibbon defence

[01:19:31] [SPEAKER_04]: Reputation is starting to grow

[01:19:32] [SPEAKER_04]: A lot more

[01:19:33] [SPEAKER_04]: I know it was a bit murky there for a while

[01:19:35] [SPEAKER_04]: And some weird stuff was happening

[01:19:37] [SPEAKER_04]: But I think we're on a good thing

[01:19:38] [SPEAKER_04]: I think it's the last bit of correspondence

[01:19:40] [SPEAKER_04]: I hope I haven't missed anything

[01:19:41] [SPEAKER_04]: Jay says hello

[01:19:43] [SPEAKER_04]: Again I wanted to start by saying

[01:19:46] [SPEAKER_04]: How

[01:19:47] [SPEAKER_04]: Good a job you guys are doing on the podcast

[01:19:49] [SPEAKER_04]: It's enjoyable listening every week

[01:19:51] [SPEAKER_04]: Wondering if you're going to do a special semi-final

[01:19:54] [SPEAKER_04]: Game day podcast

[01:19:55] [SPEAKER_04]: Pre-the sharks first semi

[01:19:57] [SPEAKER_04]: It'd be a good way to keep up the date with everything on the game

[01:20:00] [SPEAKER_04]: Day situation

[01:20:01] [SPEAKER_04]: So on that Jay

[01:20:02] [SPEAKER_04]: I don't know if we're going to do a game day podcast

[01:20:06] [SPEAKER_04]: Pre-game

[01:20:07] [SPEAKER_04]: What I would like to do is have a gathering

[01:20:09] [SPEAKER_04]: Get all the fans together

[01:20:10] [SPEAKER_04]: And get all our nerves all in one room

[01:20:12] [SPEAKER_04]: That'd be a lot of fun

[01:20:14] [SPEAKER_04]: We're probably also going to look at doing

[01:20:15] [SPEAKER_04]: A show during the week before the finals

[01:20:18] [SPEAKER_04]: If we can get everyone together that'd be fun

[01:20:21] [SPEAKER_04]: See what happens it's a crazy world

[01:20:22] [SPEAKER_04]: We're living in everyone's got so many responsibilities

[01:20:24] [SPEAKER_04]: But we'd love to do something like that

[01:20:26] [SPEAKER_04]: So keep in touch Jay

[01:20:28] [SPEAKER_04]: Stay tuned because we're always trying to

[01:20:29] [SPEAKER_04]: Not reinvent the wheel but we're always trying to do

[01:20:32] [SPEAKER_04]: Things that we haven't done

[01:20:33] [SPEAKER_04]: So stay tuned

[01:20:35] [SPEAKER_04]: If you come over to Vegas

[01:20:37] [SPEAKER_04]: Hope we're going to have a bit of fun over there

[01:20:38] [SPEAKER_04]: You come over to Vegas TK is that TBC or it's a no-no

[01:20:41] [SPEAKER_01]: Nah it's a no-no

[01:20:42] [SPEAKER_01]: If they played Camber I would've

[01:20:44] [SPEAKER_01]: Because I've got a few of my mates that are going on camera fans

[01:20:46] [SPEAKER_01]: My best mate actually lives in New York and he's

[01:20:48] [SPEAKER_01]: A Raiders fan and had it been

[01:20:51] [SPEAKER_01]: I've just been to Vegas too many times

[01:20:53] [SPEAKER_01]: I was just yeah

[01:20:54] [SPEAKER_01]: My 40th year of school was in the dark hole for a long long time post

[01:20:57] [SPEAKER_01]: So I just don't want to do that ever again

[01:21:00] [SPEAKER_04]: Young Kieran on the show

[01:21:01] [SPEAKER_04]: He goes there a lot for work

[01:21:03] [SPEAKER_04]: He has that similar kind of tone when he talks about Vegas

[01:21:06] [SPEAKER_04]: He's like oh Vegas I don't know

[01:21:07] [SPEAKER_04]: It's like I'll be there with you bro

[01:21:09] [SPEAKER_04]: I'll look after you, it's all good

[01:21:11] [SPEAKER_04]: What trouble could we get into?

[01:21:13] [SPEAKER_01]: You say that Sam and then

[01:21:14] [SPEAKER_01]: It just takes ya to different levels

[01:21:17] [SPEAKER_01]: But there is Vegas for everyone

[01:21:19] [SPEAKER_01]: I was saying this to some of my female friends from work

[01:21:22] [SPEAKER_01]: Like because they were thinking of going

[01:21:23] [SPEAKER_01]: And they were thinking it was just party and I go no

[01:21:25] [SPEAKER_01]: If you want to make it just day spars

[01:21:27] [SPEAKER_01]: And just do that with the girls

[01:21:28] [SPEAKER_01]: You can literally do that if you really want to

[01:21:30] [SPEAKER_01]: If you want to turn it into a rockstar event

[01:21:33] [SPEAKER_01]: Like if you just wanted to

[01:21:35] [SPEAKER_01]: Shows you can do just your shows

[01:21:36] [SPEAKER_01]: Like if you're an NFL guy

[01:21:38] [SPEAKER_01]: You can go watch the NFL Raiders now

[01:21:40] [SPEAKER_01]: There's an NHL team there

[01:21:42] [SPEAKER_01]: Or if you're a gambler you can go right across the whole circuit

[01:21:45] [SPEAKER_01]: Gamble, if you're a partier

[01:21:46] [SPEAKER_01]: You can do that so there's a Vegas for everyone

[01:21:48] [SPEAKER_04]: The one you're not touching on TK

[01:21:49] [SPEAKER_04]: And obviously it costs a little bit of money

[01:21:52] [SPEAKER_04]: Is if you're a foodie

[01:21:53] [SPEAKER_04]: The restaurants are unbelievable

[01:21:54] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh yeah absolutely

[01:21:56] [SPEAKER_01]: It's one of those things that probably

[01:21:57] [SPEAKER_01]: If you go there for a party you're not really eating too much

[01:21:59] [SPEAKER_01]: But the other thing actually Sam

[01:22:02] [SPEAKER_01]: That one thing that I really want to go to

[01:22:04] [SPEAKER_01]: Is that sphere

[01:22:04] [SPEAKER_01]: That sphere looks unbelievable

[01:22:07] [SPEAKER_04]: Come on up we'll go together

[01:22:08] [SPEAKER_04]: We'll both look at the big sphere and go

[01:22:10] [SPEAKER_04]: Look at that eyeball looking at us

[01:22:12] [SPEAKER_01]: Mate the UFC actually having a fight

[01:22:14] [SPEAKER_01]: Night there in the next month or something

[01:22:16] [SPEAKER_01]: In this sphere

[01:22:18] [SPEAKER_04]: So the guy gets knocked down and he looks up

[01:22:20] [SPEAKER_04]: And he sees the big eye looking at him

[01:22:22] [SPEAKER_04]: What about this TK? What about this?

[01:22:24] [SPEAKER_04]: Do me a favour don't rule it out

[01:22:25] [SPEAKER_04]: Don't rule it out

[01:22:27] [SPEAKER_04]: You can always get a hotel room

[01:22:29] [SPEAKER_04]: You can always get a flight

[01:22:32] [SPEAKER_04]: Alright we'll keep working on you

[01:22:35] [SPEAKER_04]: So Jay says

[01:22:37] [SPEAKER_04]: A lot of criticism about the one point win

[01:22:39] [SPEAKER_04]: Here's my take on it

[01:22:40] [SPEAKER_04]: We had numerous players out of position

[01:22:42] [SPEAKER_04]: We had no leadership in the halves

[01:22:45] [SPEAKER_04]: We lost two big players in Iroa and Hazelton

[01:22:48] [SPEAKER_04]: We had Trekkie still missing

[01:22:49] [SPEAKER_04]: Talokai back in the centres

[01:22:51] [SPEAKER_04]: Akko won us the game

[01:22:53] [SPEAKER_04]: And

[01:22:54] [SPEAKER_04]: It wasn't even his best game

[01:22:55] [SPEAKER_04]: However, Kofusi had his best game yet

[01:22:58] [SPEAKER_04]: I hope that's the way he plays from now on

[01:23:00] [SPEAKER_04]: I don't think so Jay also says

[01:23:02] [SPEAKER_04]: He doesn't think Ronaldo should have been out there

[01:23:04] [SPEAKER_04]: Should have been in Stone Street so that's two in a row for that

[01:23:06] [SPEAKER_04]: Well you're saying that

[01:23:08] [SPEAKER_04]: It was a decent win given the situation

[01:23:11] [SPEAKER_04]: Then you move on to the Darby

[01:23:13] [SPEAKER_04]: He talked about missing Sionikatoa

[01:23:15] [SPEAKER_04]: You're not worried about the mergers

[01:23:18] [SPEAKER_04]: As you call them

[01:23:18] [SPEAKER_04]: The mergers don't bother me

[01:23:20] [SPEAKER_04]: I don't know if I've heard that one before

[01:23:21] [SPEAKER_04]: The mergers don't bother me

[01:23:24] [SPEAKER_04]: I have no fear of them whatsoever

[01:23:25] [SPEAKER_04]: They're a team that's been lucky to get a sniff of the eight

[01:23:27] [SPEAKER_04]: I don't rate them on paper

[01:23:29] [SPEAKER_04]: We're far better

[01:23:30] [SPEAKER_04]: We can't lose

[01:23:33] [SPEAKER_04]: We need to beat this lot and keep bragging rights

[01:23:36] [SPEAKER_04]: Imagine them winning

[01:23:36] [SPEAKER_04]: We'll never hear the end of it

[01:23:38] [SPEAKER_04]: As long as we turn up and start fast

[01:23:40] [SPEAKER_04]: Get a decent lead

[01:23:41] [SPEAKER_04]: That should be enough

[01:23:44] [SPEAKER_04]: Now what else are you saying Jay?

[01:23:46] [SPEAKER_04]: The inclusion of Tricky and Iroh will be a huge boost

[01:23:49] [SPEAKER_04]: Compared to last week

[01:23:50] [SPEAKER_04]: Tig is also named to play

[01:23:52] [SPEAKER_04]: I hope we can make it three from three

[01:23:54] [SPEAKER_04]: With the women and the Jets

[01:23:55] [SPEAKER_04]: We want that club championship

[01:23:57] [SPEAKER_04]: Just on that how good are the NREL W going

[01:24:01] [SPEAKER_04]: I'd love to see them be underfeated

[01:24:02] [SPEAKER_04]: Premiers

[01:24:03] [SPEAKER_04]: Let's get the win boys and girls

[01:24:05] [SPEAKER_04]: Up up Jay, that's great correspondence

[01:24:07] [SPEAKER_04]: Jay, really appreciate it taking the time

[01:24:09] [SPEAKER_04]: Look we don't like the mergers either

[01:24:12] [SPEAKER_04]: TK, is the club championship still a thing

[01:24:14] [SPEAKER_04]: Or is that just something we talk about

[01:24:15] [SPEAKER_04]: Is it still a thing?

[01:24:16] [SPEAKER_00]: I think it's still a thing

[01:24:19] [SPEAKER_00]: I think the dogs won last year

[01:24:22] [SPEAKER_04]: So it can't be NREL W though

[01:24:24] [SPEAKER_04]: Because not everyone has a team right

[01:24:25] [SPEAKER_01]: No it's not NREL W

[01:24:28] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't even think NREL counts

[01:24:29] [SPEAKER_01]: I think it's all the lower grades

[01:24:32] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah I think so

[01:24:33] [SPEAKER_01]: Because how old are the dogs what would have won last year

[01:24:35] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm pretty sure the dogs won last year

[01:24:36] [SPEAKER_04]: I remember the old club championship

[01:24:38] [SPEAKER_04]: You didn't win the comp but you won the club championship

[01:24:40] [SPEAKER_04]: That was you know a lot of my life growing up

[01:24:44] [SPEAKER_04]: I think that's all the male guys and girls

[01:24:46] [SPEAKER_04]: If we've forgotten anyone, if we've missed anything

[01:24:48] [SPEAKER_04]: We will certainly get to it

[01:24:50] [SPEAKER_04]: So appreciate that as you can see on the screen

[01:24:52] [SPEAKER_04]: If you're watching you know how to get in touch with us

[01:24:54] [SPEAKER_04]: If you're listening to the podcast which most of you are

[01:24:57] [SPEAKER_04]: Sharkcastpod at gmail.com

[01:24:58] [SPEAKER_04]: DM us Sharkcastpod

[01:25:00] [SPEAKER_04]: TK we're going to get out of here

[01:25:02] [SPEAKER_04]: But super appreciate your time

[01:25:04] [SPEAKER_04]: We love you lots thank you so much for being on

[01:25:06] [SPEAKER_04]: Give me a quick prediction on what's going to happen on Sunday please

[01:25:10] [SPEAKER_01]: Thanks for having me first up

[01:25:12] [SPEAKER_01]: I always love coming on Sharkcast and I've missed it

[01:25:14] [SPEAKER_01]: So thank you for the invite

[01:25:16] [SPEAKER_01]: Sam on Sunday

[01:25:17] [SPEAKER_01]: I do think that I just like us 1-17

[01:25:20] [SPEAKER_01]: Looking at us vs them 1-17

[01:25:22] [SPEAKER_01]: I think we're more of a complete team

[01:25:24] [SPEAKER_01]: I think we're actually a better team

[01:25:25] [SPEAKER_01]: And I think we'll bring it on Sunday

[01:25:27] [SPEAKER_01]: I think the boys will be up for this one

[01:25:29] [SPEAKER_01]: Because I think that I actually do think that the dogs might get upset by the wires

[01:25:33] [SPEAKER_01]: And then essentially we'll wrap up the top 4 by

[01:25:35] [SPEAKER_01]: Essentially winning on Sunday

[01:25:37] [SPEAKER_01]: So I think that will be a little bit too good

[01:25:40] [SPEAKER_01]: I think it will be the Shark's 26

[01:25:41] [SPEAKER_01]: The Dragon's 12

[01:25:42] [SPEAKER_04]: 26-12 I could live with that

[01:25:44] [SPEAKER_04]: That'd be good compared to last week

[01:25:46] [SPEAKER_04]: Heartstopper so hopefully TK is right

[01:25:49] [SPEAKER_04]: He usually is so let's go with that one

[01:25:52] [SPEAKER_04]: Now for everyone listening

[01:25:53] [SPEAKER_04]: Watching thanks so much for being in touch

[01:25:55] [SPEAKER_04]: All being well we're going to have at least a couple more episodes for you this week

[01:25:59] [SPEAKER_04]: One is coming on Friday

[01:26:01] [SPEAKER_04]: Which you have been asking for

[01:26:03] [SPEAKER_04]: We'll leave it at that but it's going to be a fun one

[01:26:05] [SPEAKER_04]: That's for sure buckle in for that one

[01:26:08] [SPEAKER_04]: Again all being well it's going to happen

[01:26:10] [SPEAKER_04]: And until we speak to you next

[01:26:12] [SPEAKER_04]: Which hopefully will be soon

[01:26:13] [SPEAKER_04]: Thanks so much for all your support

[01:26:16] [SPEAKER_04]: All your kindness really appreciate it

[01:26:18] [SPEAKER_04]: And we say it a lot

[01:26:19] [SPEAKER_04]: We've been at every single freaking time

[01:26:21] [SPEAKER_04]: You guys and girls are the best

[01:26:24] [SPEAKER_04]: We could do it without you

[01:26:26] [SPEAKER_04]: But we don't want to do it without you

[01:26:27] [SPEAKER_04]: Because it's not as much fun

[01:26:28] [SPEAKER_04]: So stick with us

[01:26:29] [SPEAKER_04]: Shark House pod we're going to be

[01:26:31] [SPEAKER_04]: In your grill and we're going to be

[01:26:34] [SPEAKER_04]: In the grill of the dragons this week

[01:26:36] [SPEAKER_04]: We don't like them let's go get them

[01:26:39] [SPEAKER_04]: Sharks to win

[01:26:40] [SPEAKER_04]: 26-12 you heard it here first

[01:26:43] [SPEAKER_04]: From the legendary TK

[01:26:45] [SPEAKER_04]: We're out of here

[01:26:46] [SPEAKER_04]: TK needs some sleep

[01:26:47] [SPEAKER_04]: I certainly need some sleep

[01:26:49] [SPEAKER_04]: Up Up Crenola one more time

[01:26:51] [SPEAKER_04]: I'm just going to play the song let's play it

[01:26:53] [SPEAKER_04]: Let's get out of here let's play the song TK

[01:27:03] [SPEAKER_02]: Up Up Crenola

[01:27:06] [SPEAKER_02]: The boys in the black white and blue

[01:27:10] [SPEAKER_02]: Up Up Crenola

[01:27:15] [SPEAKER_02]: Name of the sharks big U

[01:27:19] Sharks Sharks

[01:27:21] Forever

[01:27:22] [SPEAKER_02]: Go out and play with our feet

[01:27:26] [SPEAKER_02]: Now's the time to see

[01:27:28] [SPEAKER_02]: Good football

[01:27:29] [SPEAKER_02]: For the sharks

[01:27:31] [SPEAKER_02]: Forever

[01:27:31] [SPEAKER_02]: Are here

[01:28:03] [SPEAKER_02]: The boys in the black white and blue

[01:28:12] [SPEAKER_02]: Up Up Crenola

[01:28:16] [SPEAKER_02]: Name of the sharks big U

[01:28:20] [SPEAKER_02]: Sharks Sharks

[01:28:22] [SPEAKER_02]: Forever

[01:28:24] [SPEAKER_02]: Go out and play with our feet

[01:28:27] [SPEAKER_02]: Now's the time to see

[01:28:30] [SPEAKER_02]: Good football

[01:28:31] [SPEAKER_02]: For the sharks

[01:28:33] [SPEAKER_02]: Are here

[01:28:35] [SPEAKER_02]: Up the sharks