PostGame Livestream: Rd 12 Roosters vs Sharks (Gosford)

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[00:01:10] Everything is not alright. Sharks lose 42-16 in Gosford to the Roosters, the undermanned Roosters. And we've got a lot to talk about. A lot to be disappointed in. Sharks lose 42-16. This is SharkCast Pod, a podcast dedicated to sometimes the greatest team of all time. Not tonight.

[00:01:37] And this is a podcast brought to you by Dyson Logistics, the Royal Motor Yacht Club in Port Hacking, and Jason Hawes at Crips & Crips Real Estate. I am Sam Shnazzi. I'm an OG since 2015. And on the other end of this line is my friend Dan Nichols from the Fins Up and Rugby League Outlaws. Podcasts and TV shows. Journalist from Zero Tackle. Dan, that was pretty disappointing.

[00:02:05] Let me hear some initial thoughts from you about what the heck happened. It wasn't very good, mate. I've gone upstairs to, you know, talk to the kids and say, I'm going to do this. And come downstairs and I got about 80 notifications. So my guess is Iro did something stupid in the last couple of minutes. So I won't mention that until I've seen it. It's pretty much what I was fearful of tonight.

[00:02:29] After last week's massive, massive win, the emotion, everyone saying, hey, Corralo, the real deal. They come out and got touched up by New South Wales Cup quality forward pack. A couple of classy outside backs, let's be honest. And, you know, some emerging halves. But the fact that Cronulla went in about $1.30 favorites and lost by 30 odd points. I'm waiting to see if anyone in the world can spin that to be a good thing. So it's not. But Sam, I'm not going to come on here. I'm not going to yell tonight.

[00:02:59] I'm not going to get angry. We're just going to discuss what went wrong. And we might be here till 2 a.m. Yeah, for sure. And if there's anyone that can spin it, it's me. And I'm not going to spin it. So don't worry about that. Now, the Wi-Fi is playing tricks, but we're going to get through it. Everything is going to be okay, except for what we saw on the field tonight. A real lackluster effort, particularly cemented in the first half. Discipline out the window. Penalties down 5-0. Sin bin. Ruck infringements. That's no way to win a game.

[00:03:29] We kind of knew what the Roosters were going to do, and they did it. They ran hard, and they kicked to the corners. And those first two tries against us were very costly, but ultimately didn't cost us the game in the sense that we got back into it. Got back into the wrestle, et cetera. And then it just got away from us. So absolutely here to talk about Haradi under the high ball and everything else, but it was just a really disappointing start to the game. It never really clicked.

[00:03:59] Now, Dan, we've got the bye. The bye is here. We're in bye week, thank goodness. So we can all have a breather, including the team. But do you get the feeling that they kind of limped into the last game before the bye, having come off their best game of the year? Everything, you know, spirits are really high. Everything's high. And then after touring the world and they go to Gosford and it's kind of like, well, we got this, but they didn't have this.

[00:04:28] Is there any kind of thought behind that for you? For me, I'm not hugely into that. I saw them train this week. They look really good. They weren't mucking around. There was none of that silly stuff. But obviously something has happened tonight that is not very, not very stark like this year, I don't think, to be fair. Mate, the players and the coach will come out and tell you, no, it's hard to sit here with a straight face. I know people can't see me because my computer's no good.

[00:04:55] It's hard to look at you with a straight face theoretically and tell you that that didn't happen. It absolutely did. I said off air that last week we came off the win of the season, a highly emotional win against all odds, against, you know, the premiership favourites. You come into a week, it would have been great to have the bye this week, you know, in hindsight. And I said last week, I wish we had the bye coming off that so we could steward on a couple of weeks.

[00:05:21] The bye's come at a good time because Cronulla have, like you said, flown all around the world. They've played a couple of games at home, two games at home or three games at home all season. And it's around, you know, 11 or 12 now. I think the plans were, you know, we got and we beat the Roosters reserve grade team. We get together, we watch Origin and party and have a week. That's certainly how it came across. I don't believe that in reality.

[00:05:48] But a team that has to win will beat a team that wants to win more often than not. And I felt from the start that the Roosters had to win tonight. And I felt like Cronulla expected to win. I'm expecting someone to chime in halfway through and say Fitzgibbon said the exact same copy and paste in the presser. So I'm not going to pay any attention to that. Yeah, I think mentally, I think there was a little bit of, oh, you know, we bet the Storm should flog these guys.

[00:06:16] Or at least that's how it came across in their performance, which again means more than what they say. It's how they perform. Now, we do encourage everyone to get in touch via the comments. If you want to call in either video or just without the video, you can do that via the link. Steve is there. We'll get to Steve really soon. So just hang on, Steve, for us. Danny's popped up on the screen and said, Fitz can't get to the next level in coaching. Time to rethink. Now, what do you take from that, Dan?

[00:06:45] Because when I look at games like tonight, I don't know how much I put on the coach sometime. Like, I don't know. What do you make of that comment? It's emotional and I get it. Yeah, yeah. Look, I don't agree because last week we were saying Fitzgibbon's the man. Yeah. Got all these subs right, et cetera, et cetera. Cronulla were terrible tonight and that's putting it very, very mildly. The fact that we weren't up and we came out and started and we gave away two penalties in the first three defensive sets,

[00:07:14] touched the ball twice in the first 10 minutes, that, yeah, look, they should have been better. I think Fitzgibbon will learn from tonight. I don't know what he could have done different. There's a couple of selection things. We'll leave that to later that I would have done a little bit different going into the buyer. But no, I don't think we can write Fitzgibbon off that everything went wrong tonight. It was just one of those nights. Not to say that's forgivable. There's words I want to use that I won't. But no, I don't. I understand it. But no, I don't agree.

[00:07:46] Yeah. And I mean, Daniel's got every right to say that. I understand kind of where he's coming from, but I just don't know if we can go there after last week's amazing win. Let's bring in Steve, and we'll get to Michael shortly, so hopefully everyone can hang on. There he is, our friend Steve. I've already got my swearing out of the system. Braids, no swearing. Beautiful. I know. I know. It's G-rated. That was deplorable. That was disgraceful.

[00:08:15] That was unshack. So what happened? Why do you think? We started, the first two tackles went well. Our right side defence, we couldn't even, when they got the penalty, they went charging downfield after the first try. They went back to our right. We didn't know how to defend a kick. We put no pressure on two rookie halfbacks. They are two rookies. And as Fitz says, it takes a long time for halves to connect. He keeps saying it. They've got two kids out there. They've got a kid as a hooker. So their spine is basically no one.

[00:08:44] And this referee, he doesn't know how, he couldn't control Tedesco. He should have told Tedesco to get out of my face early on. He let Tedesco get into his ear, get into his ear, get into his ear. Referee's job, get rid of him. Or McKenna should have gone up and said, get rid of him. We were just not up for it. They were lazy in defence across the park. There was no, in defence, there was no movement, no speed. Bar the first two tackles of the game. There was no defence speed at all. They were letting them run.

[00:09:13] Every time Radley got the ball, he ran six moves before someone met him. They let Tedesco run. He's a veteran fullback and he's popping the ball. I'm just looking at it and then I'm starting to see Kennedy form drift back to how it was. I'm going, they're all off. The Ronaldo shot, yeah, but that's not Ronaldo. It is Ronaldo's fault, but we should have got a penalty before in the previous set for a high tackle, which Atkins doesn't give us the penalty. Right.

[00:09:42] And then they get the ball and they go downfield and Ronaldo gives him a love tap. You know? And he's going to get a couple of weeks to do that. I don't know if it was a love tap, to be fair, Steve. He got him pretty fair and square. I know he was looking away. It wasn't overly malicious. Yeah. I don't know if we can actually say that that one was okay, but I'm with you on most of what you're saying. I think that the effort just... Oh. It's... And then how about... Sorry, go ahead. Sorry.

[00:10:10] There was a kick in that second half by Nico on the fourth to no one. Yeah. So there were examples like that throughout the game where you're just like, this isn't our night because that wasn't a great kick and there was no one behind it. And it was just sort of not Hail Mary stuff, but just there was nothing on. And there was a lot of that tonight. There was a lot of shirt grabbing. There was a lot of... I think they didn't want to do the hard yards. I mean, I haven't looked at the stats. We'll get to that.

[00:10:40] But it looked like there was one forward playing and he played pretty good like he usually does. But there was a lot of sideways football. And it was disjointed the attack. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know why though, Steve. I'm pretty obsessed with knowing why. Because it's not like they went out there to lose. I'm sure they all had the best intentions. I don't want to go, well, we had this epic thing last week. Because it was last week. It was a week ago. There's no excuses there. But yeah.

[00:11:10] It's very disappointing. They add enthusedness in every department. I thought Tedesco was actually really good. The way he's just never dead with the ball. A bit like Michael Hancock from the 90s. Like he just keeps going. And there was one where I think Nicker or someone gave away a penalty. And it wasn't a penalty. It was just the other fellow wriggling around. But you know what? We got to go with it. We got to go with the punches. And I was a bit disappointed we didn't come back better than what we did when it was 14-6. I thought, oh, well, we're still in it.

[00:11:40] We weren't really in it. But let's give me a positive, Steve. Who did you like out there? Who did you like for the Sharks? You're making it tough. Well, no. It's actually not making it hard. It's pretty easy. It's AFB. Yeah. That's it. I can't. I honestly, looking at the rest, Trindle nearly gave away another intercept. Yeah. There was where it was knocked down. I just can't. Outside of AFB, there was no one.

[00:12:08] There was no one made, you know, Iroh scored a try. But then he had that Marky Mark stood him up. You know, so. I thought, to be fair to Iroh, he tried his guts out. I know at the end it was the hiccup. But I thought he could look himself in the mirror. I really did. Yeah. But he was out. Marky Mark stood him up. And that was the point. Yeah. Outside of AFB, it was just they.

[00:12:36] And then there was that argument on the field in the first half where you're seen from the scrum between Ramien and Trindle and Burns gets the ball and even the commentators are talking about it. So that's unsharp-like. That's not. If you're going to have that, you do it off the field. You know, you get stuck into each other off the field when no one sees it. But you don't do it on the field. You know, there was that tells you there's something was off tonight. I don't know what it was.

[00:13:04] And a lot of people say, oh, you've always got next week. I don't look at that. I say, you don't know whether you've got next week. You know, I'm one of these people. You play to the end. You know, this is possibly your last game you ever play. And you play it like that. And when they don't do that, that's what annoys me. Yeah. Let's bring Dan in. Dan, I felt like potentially, and I have no reason to suggest this is fact,

[00:13:28] but I thought Ramien and I thought Haradi both looked like they were playing injured. Did you get that at all? Yeah. Our entire ride, Edson, I played like they'd never met. There had to be something going on. No, but in all seriousness, they looked busted. Those two guys. They did. Haradi couldn't jump. And that was obvious. I mean, don't get me wrong. Tupou's going to out jump 99% of the competition. But Haradi just flat chat didn't jump for that second one or didn't get off the ground.

[00:13:57] No, Ramien looked terrible tonight. He shouldn't have been out there and he should have been. It's funny you mentioned that. I had that written down, the argument too, that, you know, it doesn't matter how frustrated you are, you don't do that on the field. That's West Tigers nonsense. We've seen it from them. Like out of Dewey and whoever that was years ago. So, yeah, good shout. Both of them. Both of them looked terrible. I think there was a lot of let's just get through this to the bye tonight. And that's just not good enough, let's be honest.

[00:14:26] Yeah, for sure. Steve, have you got some more to say before we move on to some other people for us? What have you got? The only thing I've got to say is our next game is Blake Braley's 150th. He'll be the third hooker or who has played hooker to make 150 games. I've actually got to see all those players who have played hooker, which is Blake, obviously, Dean Treister. And before you guys, Michael Porter. You probably guys don't remember. No, no, not before this guy.

[00:14:56] Not before this guy. He's a season ticket holder in Washington. So he's obviously the best. I think he's another 22nd player. But, I mean, he's obviously, I'd say, our best hooker. And the other two guys, it's just – and as I drop off, there's a thing that the three of them have in common. They've never played for one NRL club, the Sharks. But the other two finishes their career in England. Oh. Let's not – So let's just see whether Blake does the same thing. But, yeah, I'm dropping off.

[00:15:24] I'm dropping off because I've got the Sunderland game at midnight anyway. So – Good luck. Good luck. Could be – You might be in for the double list, Dean. Don't do – And you heard – I can't take my Ronaldo bobblehead into work, not for a week now. So after that. Well, he might be having a week off after that too, so don't worry. Hey, Steve, thanks for knowing. We appreciate it. Really appreciate it. Have a good night, brothers. Talk to you soon. Thank you. Bye. Cheers. All right.

[00:15:54] Thanks, Devon, for the comments. We're going to bring Michael in really soon. Jacqueline left a few comments which were very factual, including no energy falling off tackles. Daniel has written this one, which is pretty full on, and it says this club is a real issue with attitude. They let their egos get to them every single year this happens. We keep producing shocking performances. It's honestly a dead set joke. Now, that's Daniel's interpretation. That's his opinion. Happy to hear it. Happy to put it up.

[00:16:25] I don't know if I agree with that. I think we lost tonight. I don't know why. I don't know if it was because of the ego, to be honest, but I respect your opinion. There it is right there. Again, black and white. Chris says we were a bit flat in the first half. Chris, I agree with you, brother. We absolutely were. And Ghastly says those are situations where we need to have AFB on for longer minutes. I mean, yes, but the way we were going tonight, we've been playing the whole game. But yes, absolutely. Sean says critical errors at critical times.

[00:16:56] 50 calls went their way. Even the 75, 20 calls went their way. Didn't seem to play to our strengths. We got out enthused. Yeah, I think that's pretty wise. Absolutely. My big brother says disrespect the opposition at your own peril. Yeah. Okay. Justin says stat. One side has won after playing Melbourne the following week. This year, the Warriors in golden point. Flat, flat, flat. That's interesting. Boys and girls. I'm going to bring in Michael.

[00:17:25] Michael, welcome to the show. RCB to the common world. And this is your podcast in a lot of ways. We can hear you, brother. What's going on? Oh, well, just want to let everyone know I watched this week. So that was good. What is the difference? Don't. Okay. So I reckon I should just keep it off and then see, see what happens at the end. And that was a real flat one. Real flat.

[00:17:56] I think, I don't, I look, I don't, I don't think they would be going in thinking we'll just beat these guys because they're missing all these players. But I reckon there's got to be in the back of their heads. Just get to the buy, just get to the buy. And as soon as the Roosters came out with like a hop in their step and kicked it and they kicked it to the giraffe over on the line. And he just gets it. They were immediately on the front foot. And I, we were basically shell shocked from them,

[00:18:25] to be honest. RCB, I love what you just said, because we are going to get, and I'm happy to take them all in, but we're going to get a lot of, they took them lightly. They walked in thinking they're going to win, but I like what you said. Maybe they had their eye on the buy, which is a complete different thing to taking your opposition early. Easy. Yeah. I like what you said there. If you're, if you're like playing and you know, you, we just got to get through this week, boys, then we get a week off.

[00:18:54] You're expecting to just get through the first few minutes, you know, get into the game, get in the cut and thrust of it, build through the middle where you have an advantage. Their advantage was in the backs with Tupu on Haradi. And they just kicked it straight to him. We didn't put enough pressure on the kicker for a start or whatever, but then he was just there, catches the ball, he scores. And they did it. They did it two times without really us doing, firing a shot. And from there, you know, it was just, oh,

[00:19:24] we're playing catch up. We scored a nice try, but from really, we weren't in it and we weren't, we were flat. We were slow. I would say in, in line speed. And really what I've seen from this team. And this year it's different because there's like this one outlier guy doing a lot of stuff. Yeah. This,

[00:19:49] this squad under these Fitzgibbon and Hines and Cam or whatever, they have this kind of performance in them. They, they have this, oh, we just, we just got nothing this week. And it's very evident, very early. But what, why, why would that be? Give me a theory behind why. Um, well, okay. Up until this year, I don't, and even, you know, the, the people in the club, you know, like for no breaks new, right?

[00:20:19] What we don't have in this squad, I believe is an absolute heart. Right. We don't have a person in the, in the club. Like we used to with like a Paul gallon, but then he had other hard asses at the end. He had Michael Ennis who wouldn't take it backwards. He had Luke Lewis. Right. I don't get that feeling from any of these guys. You know what I'm saying? Like, even the dudes that we,

[00:20:48] the guys that have been there a while, Blake Braley, Britain, the Cora, our biggest sort of mongrel element is the winger. So when, when sort of, you need to maybe wrestle something back or, I don't know, change, change the momentum of the game somehow with a bit of, a bit of something different. We don't seem to be able to do that. Yeah, that's a good point. I mean, even going back before the premiership year, he had, you go on out,

[00:21:17] Jeremy Smith, players like that. So Greg Bird. So I understand what you're saying. I understand what you're saying. And the guys that have been there a long time. So the Blake's, Blake Braley is going to play 150 games, Britain, the Cora, Jesse Ramian. They fall sort of, you know, there's no one there that's really lifted themselves up into the rep level. Right. And I know that New Zealand is just, you know, Brit plays for New Zealand, but there's no,

[00:21:46] there's no origin guys. And that, that's, that, that came out this week. You know, like we had nobody in state of origin. The year we won the comp, we had many state of origin players and let's face it, state of origin players win things and they play in, you know, they, they have the mentality to go week in, week out and not have a drop off performance where suddenly you're thinking with like a few minutes ago, geez, are we going to concede 50 year? Like what's doing?

[00:22:13] Like the difference between last week and this week was so stark. And I think that floor is lower because we don't have people who are there who are just relentless. Yeah, that's a good point, Dan. What do you got to say about that? More and more a question. How can we can turn up against the storm yet? Not a new South Wales cup pack. It's an attitude thing. The players are there. The attitude is done tonight. Yeah.

[00:22:40] I think a truth is somewhere in between boys of what Michael is saying. And what you just said, Dan, because my, my game plan was win the forward battle and you win by 20. And they didn't even come close to winning the forward battle. Well, yeah, cause the roosters and the, and this is where, this is where Robbo, Robbo outcoached our guy today. He, he decided, well, we're just going to go down our, our, where we are strong is in, on the wings and the three quarters. We're going to use the backs. We're going to train,

[00:23:09] get out of the middle early and try and get a lead. And that's exactly what they did. And they had a huge advantage with, you know, Tupu who's apparently scored more tries against Cronulla than, you know, any other player. But yeah, so, so just going back to Dan last week, last week, we had this home game. We were obviously real keyed up for it. We played great. We did. We played great. We won. There's going to be a drop off the next week. There's always, there always is when you have a big emotional win like that.

[00:23:39] What we need is to not let that drop off go so far that we're suddenly like floundering around losing by 30 to the New South Wales cup roosters. Like it's got to be better than that. If we want to be where we want to be, we can't let those, those dips get so low. Spot on attitude. So how do you figure the attitude? Well, I thought what I did like was when we were getting flogged,

[00:24:09] Cam got them all in a huddle. You said deep breath, deep breath. And you saw him talking. I thought, okay, here we go. That's the switch. I look, everyone in the world knew that they were going to kick to Tupu early and often. And the fact that Ramian wasn't within seven or eight meters of the first kick shows me that they weren't ready for that. He should have been ready. He should have been running Tupu into row C and giving away. How can you not be ready? He's the bit, that's the biggest weapon that they have.

[00:24:39] He's eight feet tall against the guy who's coming back from a goddamn knee injury. Right. Why? And this is the other thing we don't do. We don't just cheat. Like I would have just taken him out and taken the penalty, take him out, take the penalty, reset your line. That's what they, that's what, how the roosters won two comps in a row. Just continually cheat. You know, why don't we do that? Well, I was surprised that the second time around,

[00:25:07] they got it so easy and it was only a few minutes. The first one, the first one I can cop. Okay, cool. That's what they're going to do. The second one was like, well, hang on. That's clearly not good enough. I don't know. I don't know why they didn't keep going back to him, but we did, we did concede a few tries from kicks in general from, from a bunch of different guys in the back who dropped the ball. So I wonder if it's becoming a bit of a problem for us. Well, it hadn't been for a few weeks. I mean,

[00:25:34] last week was bad with Kennedy this week, you know, a few drops and just, I don't know. I think this is the other thing that happens with Cronulla. It happened in 2023, when we went down to Melbourne and we just had a disastrous game last year, when we played Penrith, we had a disastrous game. When things go bad for us, it can really compound. And there's sort of, as sort of inability to stop that. It's like, no, we need to, we need to,

[00:26:04] we need to just bring everyone together and make sure that this, this doesn't just get out of hand. And there's been a few situations with, with the guys in this squad that when things are going, it's going great. It's going great. But if it can go calamitously wrong. Yeah. I mean, a lot of people are commenting. We're throwing up the comments, as you can see, and we may not get to each and everyone to talk about them, but we'll throw them up. That's for sure. Just while I got you guys, I'm going to jump over to the Insta,

[00:26:33] all of our friends over there. Hello, hello, hello. Waito says, how do you do this? Come on and talk about this rubbish. Someone else on Twitter mentioned it to me. It's just what we do in good times and bad. You know, we can't just not do one because the boys didn't play well. And there's a lot to talk about. Neil says, free garlic bread, baby. Not tonight, my friend. Pete says, first time in years, I've turned off the game, outplayed and out refereed. Waito says, again,

[00:27:02] we probably need to try to forget and move on quickly. There weren't many great performances, but gee, Jesse Ramian was poor. He seemed very unenthused. We can't forget about it and move on because we've got the buyer next week. So that's, that's a bad, bad time for a bad performance. Bebeloke says, worse have been in years. Neil asks again, will I be able to get a free garlic bread baby? And the answer is still no. Christopher says,

[00:27:32] don't start with the excuses, Sammy. Okay. I'm not going to start with the excuses. I don't think I have been, but fair enough. Greasy Smitty says the ref was no good. Games were expected to win. We lose badly. Matt says, brave man, letting Dan co-host after that. No dance, dance. Cool. That's all good. Lynn, Lynn says waiting for an Uber in Gosford. Now that's, oh man, congratulations. Well,

[00:27:59] congrats to everyone that went up there that attended, whether you're from the Shire or wherever you, if you're up there at city coasters, whatever. Congrats to everyone who had to be there and sit through all that. Matt says Nico was outplayed by rookie halfback. There wasn't much happening outside of AFB. Greasy Smitty said Nico took on the line once. So people aren't happy with all that. And that's all pretty above board and fair. Fair.

[00:28:27] What happened to the halves tonight boys? Was it a case of the forwards not doing much and they couldn't get their thing on? Were they just way off? Where do you think the truth lies, Michael? I think apart from for Noah Blake, you have the, like usually when we have these bad losses and you look at the stats, I don't know if it's like confirmation bias, but whenever we have like a bad one like this, I look at the stats and I say Oregon Kofusi at like 60 meters. And I'm just like,

[00:28:57] what is doing? What, like how, how is this allowed as a startup? But then there's also like Britain, the core who's a test player doesn't get a hundred meters. And like, I don't know. I don't think the platform was there. No one, no one came. No one even came close except for, for Noah black. Blake was one 58. No one came close. Yeah. It's like, yeah. So, so from that perspective, you got a,

[00:29:23] you got a guy who's new to the club and a guy sort of playing for his career, putting in really, whereas the rest of them are just sort of like, ah, well, I guess this isn't our night. Bye. We're going to have the bye. And that'll be nice. I don't know. Like it's hard for the halves to do anything good when those guys aren't really performing. And the last few weeks they have been performing and the halves have been really good. So, you know, you can't, it's very difficult to just go, well, it's the halves fault. They,

[00:29:53] you know, they might've taken a couple of better options here and there where maybe we could have got back into the game a little bit, but for the most part, it's the lack of enthusiasm across the squad and the lack of, the lack of wanting to get instead of going in at seven and five into the by eight and four pushing for the top four, that kind of thing, that mentality in the team, it's, it's not quite there. And that's, that's why.

[00:30:23] So what do you think about what Daniel's written here? Weeks like these, we won't win the comp. Is that something that will go to you, Dan Nichols? Is that something you relate to or not? Weeks like this, while we won't make the top four, once you're in the finals, it's different because every game is that big emotional game. Tonight was just a game that Cronulla get told all week. They're going to win by 30. They're missing six, five or six players. They're missing extras. It's an easy win. You got the buy. I just,

[00:30:53] I just can't cop anyone sitting here and saying that we went in with the same intensity as we did last week because three tackles in, they shifted left and made what? 30 meters. Last week for 80 minutes, I don't get me wrong. The storm scored some ripper tries. Surely no one's, surely no one's going to say that to you, Dan that they went in with the same intent. Oh, I'm popping it on Twitter. You should see the filth on Twitter. I'll start retweeting it soon. But tonight, the forwards went nowhere except Adam for new or Blake. I've written a list here.

[00:31:22] I was going to tell you off, but I'm not going to make winning papers over cracks, right? We got Herodhi who has been great, but you know, he's what he is. Billy Burns has been great. He is what he is. Jesse Ramon's been terrible for a month. We've been winning. So who cares? Trindle's been terrible for five weeks. Minus one, good half against Manly. Who cares? We're winning. Only Finoa Blake looks like he can break the line at any time. We're winning. Who cares? Our bench, Braden Hamlin-Ueli, words I won't say on here. Who cares? We've been winning.

[00:31:53] All of it's coming out tonight and it's all been there for four weeks. We just didn't win tonight. We lost terribly. So it's all coming out. I don't think Fitzgibbon is going to walk into training on Monday and goes, hmm, what do we got to work on? I think he can see what's wrong. I think everyone can see it, but when you lose, it comes to the top. So I'm keeping an eye on these comments. There's a lot of really, really good ones. There is. We'll get to them. I know Gary Dover has joined briefly. I don't know how long to be joining the show because he's on the clock,

[00:32:22] but our friend Lewis said the captain's run montage looked sick. It was all downhill from there. And it did. Go online and have a look at the captain's run montage from our friend, Gary and Jess and all those guys at the, and girls at the sharks. Matt says, didn't turn up, didn't have mentality that we, mentally that we can turn up and win against lower team today. We don't show respect for the ball or team. We are playing. Yeah. We didn't show the respect for the ball. I don't know.

[00:32:51] I don't know if the team thing comes into it. I know it is easy just to go and do that, but me personally, I don't know if I'm going to go there. Steve says, we'll miss Ronnie for two to four weeks on the injury. That's speculation, but someone else, I think it might've been Anne. Someone else did ask, what's the wing situation. Does Chris Vaila come in, Dan, or what's the story there? Yeah. He should have played tonight. He was breathtaking for the jets. And can we please talk about them later?

[00:33:21] Sure. He, he had to come in for Haradi tonight. Haradi was a hundred percent. No one, no one can convince me. He was. Vaila has looked really, really good. He's not Ronaldo. Hardly anyone is. Obviously we're down to our fourth and fifth string wingers. Now Haradi's going to play. If he's fit, he's going to play. Yeah. If it's given another note I've made here. And someone asked me to straight up, I'll ask you boys, when's the, when's the last time, Fitzgibbon dropped someone for form other than, you know, a Hamlin, Newelli and a Tewks just moving week to week.

[00:33:51] Cause I think there's probably two or three of them who should be looking over their shoulder. There's a lot of comments about Jesse Ramian. The fans aren't happy there. Did he drop Moylan at one point? Yeah. He did, but Moylan had about 610 injuries. He probably blamed one of them. No, Moylan never played for Newtown. Put it that way. Yeah. I don't know. It's not like he does. He doesn't drop people. He's, he's, he's loyal almost to a fault,

[00:34:21] but yeah, I mean, now the, the, the cupboard's pretty bare. So Heroddy will be there unless they go, Oh, well, at code, Mr. Fix it, just stand on the wing or something. Oh, if that happens. If I, L is my tip mate, we got the Warriors in two weeks. We better hope Sam Stone street has some magical recovery because if they go in with your audience, I know I spoke to you. I mean, you're closer to Katoa coming back. He'll be, he reckons he's back,

[00:34:49] but I don't know if that's completely medically approved, but he told us that round 14. So he might be ready, but again, you're going to have an underdun Katoa. He hasn't played for a few months. Yeah. What were the dual sports? He said, or they said, a mix of one eye on the first by a bit flat after emotional and physical win. So we've got two sides here. We've got people sort of going, it's going to be okay. And other people going, burn it down. And I respect both opinions.

[00:35:19] So I think the three of us are kind of somewhere in the middle, but RCB, you bring in Katoa straight back in against our Warriors team. I reckon I would, I would give him at least a week in cup. Like, you know, you can't just chuck him out there and go, Hey, save it for us. He's got to, you know, he's got to get, get up to speed. Like he's had a leg injury. He's missed all the preseason. I don't see how you can just go put him straight in, you know,

[00:35:48] even if, so why not play Viola? Why not play Gabriel? You know, they've been playing, they've at least been playing football. They can do a job for a week. And probably give better output than a guy who's coming back for his first game after like, what was it? What was Katoa's injury? Shoulder, right? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. So shoulder. So even then, so he's done, he wouldn't have done any of the contact work, any of the tackling that you really need to do. And you're going to put him out there straight away on the wing against the

[00:36:18] Warriors and the Warriors. It's not like the Warriors are bad. They're in the top four. They're going good this year. They're, they're, they're, they're having a real good season. So yeah, I would, I'd play Vael. Interesting. A lot of comments here. Thanks to everyone who is leaving the comments. Michael, stick around for us on the Insta. Taylor said, we need to have a better attitude on the field. Looks like they weren't talking to each other. I noticed a couple of huddles there, but they weren't really communicating that well. Matt says,

[00:36:48] we love making debutantes look good. Started with Charlie Staines, the Dolphins player in magic round. And again, tonight, that's some wise words there from Matt. The shark cage braved it up there. Like many of our listeners, tough drive home. We bounce back after the bye. So I like that. That's good stuff. Good effort from the shark cage. They're really ripping and tearing this year. I can assure you, Pete. I'm with you, Pete. He said,

[00:37:16] hard to blame the ref when you've had 42 points put on you. I will say he was pretty whistle heavy in that first half for one team. I think that the team he was whistle heavy against were the more ill disciplined team, but I thought it was a little bit heavy, but that's just how it goes. And that's footy. You can't really. Sammy. Chuck Noel said, you got to play better than the ref's ref. I agree. I agree. I'm not disagreeing.

[00:37:45] I'm not disagreeing. I can see why someone would go to that angle, but I'm with Pete and with you. I don't think that, uh, I don't think it was an agenda to sort of get us out of the game. Fitz said, I thought tonight was the classic game of a team that assumed that the result was going to be before the first whistle. So again, one of those thoughts. Uh, Andrew said, Iro was the only positive. Damo says, you know, you're in trouble when the edge back row,

[00:38:15] I need to do some ball playing. Uh, yeah. So just go ahead. Yeah. A couple of times, like second half, early doors in second half, we had good opportunity on the attack and it got to like the fourth tackle. And suddenly, yeah, like Nikora is putting a kick in because we haven't set up properly, you know, like if we were really switched on to say, okay, it's only 14 points. This is 2025. That's a nothing.

[00:38:45] That's a nothing deficit. These days we, you know, we should be setting up a lot better than that. That that's, that is where you could really look at Hines and Trindle and, and ask for more because in that situation, Hines is passing the ball out. It goes, goes somewhere. And then suddenly Brittany core is putting in a, a, a bad grubber kick that gets easily diffused. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, it was weird. It's,

[00:39:14] there wasn't a lot of direction that's not, there wasn't a lot of leadership. I liked it when Ken McKinnis scored that try and he had a few huddles, but no one else was aside from AFB, obviously. And I think we'll be saying that most weeks. Hey guys and girls, if you want to get in touch, you can hit the stream. Yeah. Link and jump on like Michael has. Michael's going to hang around for a bit, which is great. But if you want to jump on, have you say the only rule is no swearing, please. A hand man. And says, we were shocking. The comp is unpredictable.

[00:39:44] No team is better than anyone else. Like the bulldogs that flogged by the dolphins. Then we do the same and get flogged. Thank God for the buy. I think every game this weekend has gotten a little bit unpredictable. That's no reason why we should join that list. Daniel doc holiday says that was gross. We desperately need to have the buy to refresh and reset. And there's a few people on here talking about the travel and everything else, finally catching up. I don't know. I think that's over and done with the travel thing.

[00:40:14] I mean, Dan, what do you think about that? We can't go back to the travel, right? Like we're done with the travel. You can't, but I do wish the buy was three weeks ago. Yeah. Yeah. Michael, you got any opinion on that? Honestly, man, they've been home. They just had a great win in, in Sydney against, um, the storm. You're going up the freeway to Gosford. It's not, it's not real travel, man. It's not, it's not like these other, you know, in these other sports, you know,

[00:40:44] Minnesota flies to San Diego or back and whatever. That's, that's like full on travel. This is a, it's a bus trip. Uh, for the people listening on the audio podcast, we love and adore Blake Budak has written time to drop hero. He hasn't been the same since he changed his name. That's not even true. He was great last week. So that's incorrect. And it is a great little comment. So that's why I threw it up. Uh, Matt says, what's with the full strength sharks,

[00:41:12] BS being peddled by Fox Katoa stone street, ice and dykes, Wilton, Rudolph, Hazleton, probably on one knee. Ramian with one eye should not have played. Now, Matt, I appreciate what you're saying. You can't throw in ice and you can't throw in dykes. I'm sorry. We have got some guys out. Absolutely. But, but you know, we really should have won that game based on who was playing for us and who was playing for them. Our forward pack should have eaten them alive and they didn't,

[00:41:42] but I love the fact that you're sticking up for the team. shake says Ramian needs a stint in the lower grades. There's a bit of that going around. I'm not prepared to do that. I'm not prepared to do that, but what do you think RCB about Ramian at the moment? I don't think he's playing very well. Um, I think, look, maybe a week or two would be all right. The problem is we've sort of, we're like in, in the backs.

[00:42:11] If we had everyone there, I reckon he would have, I reckon they'd probably drop him for a week or so. Um, but he's, he's not going to do that. Whilst we have, what, two wingers down, maybe one, one going to be suspended. So I think he sort of holds his spot sort of based on continuity, but, um, yeah, it certainly hasn't been as good a season as last year for Jesse. Um, and also like just on the eye thing, I'm actually surprised they played him. Hey, like, like,

[00:42:41] I mean, it's not like a, like a muscle injury or whatever. Like if you're poking the eye bad enough that you have to go off the field and play the rest of the game, that's got to like affect your week, affect your confidence a bit. I, I'm sort of, I'm surprised that they played him and not Baylor. Hey, I mean, is there a chance they just don't want to risk too many young guys coming in? And like, I'm not saying Chris Baylor isn't ready. Like he's been waiting in the wings. He almost got his chance last year,

[00:43:11] but as a coach, do you sometimes just go, I want to have some guy who hasn't let me down for the last 10 games or whatever. I mean, Haradi has been terrific, not on the wing necessarily, but, but at the same time, you thinking, Haradi's not the tallest men alive. We kind of saw this one coming. So I, I don't know. I just, I know everyone's answer is just throw in the kids. And I love to see that. And I think Chris Baylor is a really great footballer. I don't know if he's as good a winger as he is center,

[00:43:44] but yeah, I don't, I will never know. Right. I mean, obviously this is hindsight and people saying that you should have done this, you should have done that. I get that, but. Well, I was more sort of surprised because like we've been saying, the buy was coming up. So here's a guy who's had a weird facial injury that you could, you could say, okay, you're going to miss this week. You're going to have the week off. Your eyes going to fully heal. Um, and whatever, whatever has to happen to that. And it then gives you the opportunity to, you know,

[00:44:11] and then how he tinkers with the side there is how he sees fit. Like he, he could, you know, move, move running across, or he could put Talakai in or something, or play Viola if he wants to play the kids. Either way, I just thought, even there was a, a rest coming up, that's, that's sort of a sort of out of the box injury to sort of sustain. So anyway, look in his, in general form, I don't think Jesse Ramon's been very good, but again, because we don't really have the depth in terms of the backs across the board.

[00:44:43] Um, I say, I'd say that's why he's still there. Hey. Well, ghastly Tannis reminded us that DWZ will be on one wing. Jardine Ormsby's cousin, DWZ will be on the wing and he'll be leaping at everything. So we got to fix this up for the next game, which is in two weeks time, two weeks to work it out, but I don't think what we saw tonight. This is going to be, be the answer. Dan, what, who's your back five against the Warriors? Say Ronaldo's not,

[00:45:12] not able to be there. Who's your back five? Kennedy, Iro, in order. Sorry. Like in positional order, who's your, who's your back five? Well, you got to play Haradi because he's the last man standing. If Katoa's fit, play him, uh, Ramian, Iro. There's just, I mean, if Michael Gabriel was fit, you could, you could have that discussion. But I mean, again, it took, it took what,

[00:45:42] how many tries did Talakai cop against the Tigers for him to bring Iro in? It's all fun to talk about, but it's just not going to happen. We'll probably see the same five unless Ronaldo's out. You have to bring Valor in if Katoa can't walk. But if he, if he names Dan Atkinson, Sam, I'm not coming on the screen. Like I just, I can't cop the fact that everyone in the world knew what they were going to do tonight and we didn't set up for it. Like they're going to kick the Tupu to the bloke that can't jump.

[00:46:12] And Haradi's been fantastic again. I'm not bagging him. You had maybe, maybe, I mean, I'm sure the coach might've known he couldn't jump or maybe he didn't. I shouldn't say he didn't know, but we didn't know that he couldn't jump. You know what I mean? I wasn't like shaking my boots. I just thought, well, I hope that, you know, Haradi's on tonight. I didn't think he wouldn't be able to jump. No, but Ramian didn't run him off. There was just, yeah. The pressure on the kicker. Yeah. Yeah. That guy was allowed to just kick it.

[00:46:41] Good point. But yeah, no, no changes other than force one, just because that's what it's going to be. If it was fully fit. Yeah. I'm, I'm giving, I'm giving Baylor a go. I would have played him tonight. I would have played him last year when we named Atkinson on the wing and, and did the same thing against the Warriors. So it's not like we haven't had a, a warning shot. Now we, we have all of our listeners are awesome and we have great comments and we'll probably get to start doing comment on the night. I like this one. Adam says,

[00:47:09] I'm watching in excess cover band and Gideen. Thank God. And I hate in excess. I quite liked that one. Well, you can watch the replay, Adam, and let us know what you think about it. I know you will. Some great comments here. Michael, how do you feel about how this impacts the season? Is it just going to be a loss and we move on? Is this going to haunt us? Is this going to be how we are again? Seems we should win. What are you thinking? Well, I mean,

[00:47:39] until they prove that they can string together wins at a more consistent rate than sort of three, three to four and when they're expected to win. So for, for example, today they were, uh, the Roosters were $3, 20 outsiders, right? That's not the first time this year we've lost to a team paying three bucks. Okay. So head to head. So we got it. We got to sort of, we,

[00:48:08] they've got to decide as a squad where, what they really want to do. I, I feel as though, you know, there are five losses now. Um, you probably don't want to get over eight, right? So that means a nine and three back half of the season. They really need to click into gear. And so we've kind of left, we've left a couple of wins on the table, which means we're in a bit of a hole there. If you want to, if you want to make the top four,

[00:48:37] it's been proven in the NRL era, apart from 2005, that you need to make the top four to win. If you don't make the top four extremely hard, even we've shown making the top four doesn't really matter because we don't win the finals, but that's another thing. But, um, if they want to push on in a year where I don't think there's a standout team, there's no like Penrith or last, like whatever that gone. Yeah. Brisbane. I mean,

[00:49:05] Madge can only yell at them so many more times. Um, it's, it's, it's Melbourne and whoever they play, right? It's Melbourne. Honestly, man, the roosters might be the team that bust the 50 point thing. Like they play electric football sometimes. And this year, no one's really standing up like your top four is Canberra and the Warriors. I mean, not exactly powerhouses, not exactly huge pedigree, you know, it could be a really strange year. And what,

[00:49:34] what I'm disappointed in is this squad is the most settled in the company in terms of continuity, in terms of players in and out. And we just sort of haven't taken the opportunity that's been presented to us to really be cemented in the top four going into the second half of the year. Uh, yeah, well, well said. Um, we've got one from Almas who's hammering us in or hammering me at least in the comments. When will you criticize Fitzy? Or as he says, when will you critics Fitzy? Uh, well,

[00:50:03] we're saying tonight that maybe some positional changes weren't correctly, uh, selected, but honestly, what I saw tonight, I don't know how much it had to do with the coach. I saw just guys not really playing to their potential. So maybe it's new with the setup. I don't know, but I'm telling you, I saw some training this week. They look fine. And when they run out, they look fine. So, you know, that's, that's where I'm coming from. But Almas, you say,

[00:50:33] cause it's above board. It's all good. Ray says, look like lots of players playing busted two weeks rest and back into it. Appreciate everyone's thoughts. Uh, ghastly wants Puru in there. I believe he's talking about forward Puru and CV. Chris Faylor. Hopefully it's all Tommy's back. Kofusi never. Okay. He said, hopefully Kofusi never touches a shark. Cheers again. harsh, but I hear what you're saying. Where are you coming from? I don't know if, uh, it's all Tommy back by then.

[00:51:02] They're not sure what's going on there. Hopefully he will. He seems to be more injured than they're saying. Yeah. But, uh, what I've been told and what I've been hearing is they're just not sure. So I don't think they're keeping it from anyone. I think they're just trying to work out how severe whatever it is. I know that sounds very wishy-washy, but that's. It does. It's, it's, yeah. I hear what you're saying, Michael. I hear what you're saying. Funganero has some harsh words for the people in the chat. I don't care for that.

[00:51:32] That's not very nice. Uh, Connor says, I think Kifusi is good. It's all going on. Dan, what are you thinking right now? About 45 minutes after the game, how are you feeling? Have you calmed down a bit? Is, is it bad that I don't really care? It's not bad. You can be however you want to be. Like, I don't know. The, the camera loss. I was really annoyed, like really angry. I felt like they threw that away. There, the Panthers. You were annoyed. I was there.

[00:52:02] The Panthers loss. You're like, okay, it's Penrith. It's Vegas. We hardly ever ring around months. I didn't really care. The camera one's the one I, I thought coming on tonight, Sam, I thought tonight would be the night where you send me the DM to say, oh, he can't back. Reading all the comments, everyone's saying exactly what I'm thinking. There's some players there that are getting paid three times what they're worth. I won't name names because it's probably not fair, but people know who they are.

[00:52:29] You've got players that are playing much better than them and not giving them an opportunity. So there's my criticism of Fitz. I think, I think he needs to sit two that were on the bench tonight and bring two up, whatever, draw your own conclusions. Yeah. So I'm probably there. I'm probably like, if the Jets didn't run away with it and Flea didn't play so well, I think I'd be far more annoyed because I'm just writing it off as one of those. We were broken. The Roosters went in like, yep, we got to win this.

[00:52:58] We got to shut the Sharks up. Yeah. And Cronulla went in and like, ah, let's just get through the buy. And they played like that. So I'm writing it off. But I think by the time I hit record on Tuesday night, because I forced myself to watch the highlights and trust me, there's not going to be many from Cronulla. I think you're going to hear a very, very different attitude coming in. Yeah. I'm with you about one of those nights, but it's also not an excuse just to kind of like, I can't just go, oh, it's one of those nights.

[00:53:27] So don't worry about it. There's, yeah, there's plenty to worry about them based on what you saw tonight. But yeah, I, I, I'm also of the belief that they were beaten by the better team on the night out in foos. It doesn't mean they didn't try. It doesn't mean they walked out thinking they're better than anyone. I don't, I don't buy that for one second, but they were completely at those from the first second and make of that what you will, how they couldn't get into the game. I'm not sure. Maybe it was the travel. Maybe it was the injuries, the broken eyeballs. I've got no idea,

[00:53:57] but I just can't put my, my small brain to all of you people and go, we thought that we were going to win from the first second. I think that's complete. I just don't agree with it, but completely out enthused. And that is really annoying. And I can't explain that RCP. Yeah, it's very annoying, man. Yeah. But what I will say is again,

[00:54:25] this kind of performance has been in this squad. It's part of the sort of makeup of them. It's like that Tigers game last year where we just came out. We were flat as attack lost the manly game the year before when I, when I was standing with you and special K in that, just like took an hour to get into the game. And by then it was too late. Like that, that is sort of in this sort of squad, man. So I think that's something that they really need to have a hard conversation about.

[00:54:56] Yeah. But I mean, are we, are we just going to say it's going to happen against teams that are paying $3 20? Like, how do we pick it? How do we, it's random. I think, I think those ones are against teams that don't, that we think we're going to beat. I think there's got to be in the back of some people, some players minds, a bit of, we've got these guys, you know? And because they don't really, they don't have that absolute, you know,

[00:55:27] will to grind winning mentality, like Penrith or last four years or whatever, or teams in the past that, so these performances, then they do appear. Anyway, guys, I'm going to have to head off. Have a lovely Sunday and we'll see you after the bye. Up, up. All right. Thanks brother. Appreciate you. See you, mate. Can I just touch on something? Sorry, Sam. Of course. You can never tell when the sharks are going to do what they've done

[00:55:57] tonight, but you can always tell in the first 10 minutes and 10 minutes in, I turned to my son and I said, ah, tonight's not the night. He said, it's still early. I said, yeah, I know that. Maybe I'm just trying to vent, but you just know within the first 10 minutes, there haven't been many games, except the camera one where I thought we were on and we lost it late, probably hence my frustration, where after 10 to 15 minutes, I haven't almost picked the result every single time, just based on attitude and based on that, that little thing. Like there was that,

[00:56:24] that knicker and knock on from the line that he always gets right. And you know, the Trindle pass that added two on none and hit the bloke who probably should have run the score. Little things like that. So. Brendan Fitz, who's a good mate of ours has got a very interesting comment. I'm just going to read it out. Can we stop using terms like we, us and our when referring to the team's performance? If you didn't put a jersey tonight, you don't get to use those terms. Show some respect for the players.

[00:56:54] We are not them. We're just fans. Now Fitz, I completely know what you're saying and I actually respect what you're saying. I think it's a habit more than anything else. So don't think you're going to get your way, particularly when someone like me talks about this club that I love and adore, but it's a really interesting, smart point. So that's why I thought I would throw it up. Uh, we've got some more comments here. Andrew says,

[00:57:22] Katoa back round 14, come back a week early. I think we're not playing next week, so that's okay. But I don't know if you mean around 14's a week early. Uh, Jacqueline says, what's the point of beating the storm? If that's what you throw up the next week, you can't beat the West tigers. You capitulate to Canberra and get completely bullied by the bulldogs. I'd rather beat the storm like last week and lose tonight and flip the results. Yeah. Yeah. I'm with you. I,

[00:57:53] I have to admit that on our, on our, um, on a small group chat that we have or one of them, uh, a certain radio personality with the initial CM was the first to get the text in saying what Jacqueline saying pretty much to the word. What's the point of beating the storm now? Obviously Jacqueline and Clinton know what the answer to that is, but I take your point. And it's, it's, it's hard to kind of accept a performance like tonight when you see what

[00:58:22] they did last week. So I, I've got any thoughts on that, Dan? I mean, I agree with you. Like, yeah, rather win last week than tonight kind of thing if you had to choose one, but I guess the point is why do we have to choose? It's super frustrating. And that's the difference between the good sides and the great sides. I a hundred percent get the, the thinking, but I just, you beat, you beat Melbourne who were going to be there. The roosters may or may not. Yeah. You know, you lose the plays,

[00:58:52] you galvanize, you prove that you can do it. Like, okay, if we go and put 40 on the roosters tonight, but the storm walks off the park, what's the point of that? Like you beat a team. It's probably not going to challenge for the premiership when you can beat. I don't know. You want, you want to win those games tonight because look, Penrith, Penrith lost to the Tigers a couple of years ago and went on to win four straight premierships. That's my frame of mind. So if I go the other way, God help the senses. Yeah. It's very, very frustrating. It does make no sense.

[00:59:21] Like we're not going to try and wash over this. It makes no sense to lose tonight. I mean, you can say all the things you want about being tired. The buyers almost here. They've traveled some injuries. You can say all that coming off last week. No one wins after playing the storm. You can say all that stuff, but when you look at our team and look at their team, it sort of does come down to a bit of enthusiasm. And why can't we match that?

[00:59:48] And also why can't we up the ante Dan when, when it's time, when we're behind the eight ball, we're being out enthused by these guys on debut. Of course you're going to be out enthused by guys on debut, but why can't we lift? Why can't we? I don't know. And you know who was pretty good. I thought Talakai was pretty good again in a beaten team. That guy doesn't need to be out enthused. He'll never be out enthused. No, first of all, you shouldn't say, why are we, why were the players that are out there? Yes. Yes.

[01:00:18] Um, and just quietly, I don't agree with that at all. Um, I, I don't know why Talakai doesn't get more minutes. Yeah. He went out there and he looked great. There was a try they scored and he was walking off the field and he turned back and he gave someone a serve, maybe just in the general direction. I think the first thing I do is say, Talakai, you got to play 50 minutes. Yeah. Yep. Yeah. I think that I think he, I think he needs to be on the field the whole time.

[01:00:43] And that's why I know you and I over the years have had sort of very friendly running battles about his Talakai center or not. And we both sort of come to the inclusion that the fellow that's stepping in is a better center. But one of my arguments has always been, he needs me on the field for 80 minutes. And that was a good way to have him on the field for 80 minutes. So I'm with you there. Well, mate, there's a, there's a pretty out of form center on the other side who, you know, maybe that's it. Look, I agree. You got to get more out of Talakai.

[01:01:12] And I don't know what the, I don't know what the answer is. I mean, if we did, obviously we'd be working for the club, but it just, yeah. Yeah. A lot of emotional comments coming through. I'm loving, I'm loving the stuff. Which is good. It's good. It's good. Yeah. And it's good to get it out. So please feel like you can get it out. Obviously be respectful, but get it out and have your say. Who was it? Pete said the precedent last very long at all, probably a minute. So that might sum up what's going on there. I'm glad he got out of there quick. Yeah. Steve said he's out.

[01:01:42] He's got a 4am wake up call. So that's pretty intense. Daniel says gummy sharks. Over on the Insta, we have Taylor saying, Herodhi is a better center than a winger, which I completely agree with. Our colleague, Josh Bolling said, just dropping in to say that sucked. Hope you boys are having a better night. Enjoy the pod. Thank you, Josh.

[01:02:12] The rock infringement podcast said, I was at the game tonight. Was it good for the sharks or the, sorry, was it good from the chooks or did the sharks get complacent? Love the pod. So thank you very much. And that's from the rock infringement podcast. So go check them out. Uh, I had a similar question to myself, Dan, uh, this is a game we threw away, right? We, it wasn't so much that the roosters were amazing. Cause it was, it was like 14, six, 26 for a long time.

[01:02:41] This is a game. We kept shooting ourselves in the foot. Yeah. Absolutely. It wasn't, wasn't 42 points conceded. Uh, they weren't that good rather. No, we, we, I don't want to take away from them cause the roosters were very, very good. But yeah, Cronulla, their discipline was terrible early on. Uh, they refused to hold the ball and they let a team that needed to lead and ride momentum, get a lead and get momentum. Hard to come back from that. Yeah. So unfortunately,

[01:03:11] Dan Fitz said, God, happy Dan, this, this podcast. And thank God for all the Dan's and Steve's out there, but it must've been the population at that point. I'm going to listen to a podcast. Dan. Anyway, Dan Fitz says, just got home late. Saw the score. Are we kidding? What happened? Well, Dan, you have to hit rewind on this podcast when it goes live later on, when it goes, I don't even know what I'm saying anymore. And it wasn't good from the start, my friend. And we think we were never in it. So I'll let you watch the replay.

[01:03:41] Let you listen to the podcast. Check out fins up on Tuesday, Wednesday, and you'll get the scoops. Andrew is pointing out that it's been a couple of weeks when Nicker has been dropping the ball. Now we've noticed that. What, what could we put that down to anything at all, Dan, or it's just a bad couple of weeks? We runs a brilliant line, but everyone knows it's coming and they're preparing for it. Yeah. Yeah. That's a good point. Maybe it's that. Bo says,

[01:04:10] when are you going to be the team to make the miracle comeback? Or is it teams who play against us? That's a good comment. That's a great comment. Looking at the time and thinking, is this the week we finally do it? It probably should be. But when, when's the last time we did that camera last year, right? Round four, was it? We're waiting. Yeah. We're getting some grief from, uh, Almas saying, I haven't read a single comment. That's not true. I read one about Fitz before, uh, and I've read out a few, so keep them coming,

[01:04:40] but, uh, certainly not ignoring you. We understand you're not happy with the coach and that's more than fine. Andrew also says about NBA teams, et cetera, traveling and how it's not an excuse, which is fair enough. Uh, and he says, give, give the young fellow Gabriel a debut. If, if he's fit Sam for the past two weeks, he would have played tonight. I'm making that call. Okay. He's very exciting. Young player.

[01:05:10] Bo gray off topic says Jack Williams has been solid, which he has. I've got a lot of power fans who are friends and, and I've been watching him too. And he had a great game. Uh, was it last night? Whenever it was. Yeah. And good luck to him. He's a, he's a top fella. I have seen a few comments online, Dan, which I know you'll appreciate people talking about how we shouldn't have let him go. Royce, you know, you just, the fella from the warriors, like don't, unless you'd like their number one fans, don't be those people. Like,

[01:05:40] that's not helping. But I, there's two players that I would have preferred to say go than Jack Williams. That's for sure. Look, Metcalf, obviously playing superb football and I wish him and Sam Healy, nothing but the best. I can't get over the Sam Healy thing with Metcalf. I understand. Um, and Royce Hunt. No, I don't regret that one. So one from three. Now, Bo is actually watching the grand final. I thought he was joking, but he said, half time in the GF. I have a feeling we might get up. So that's awesome.

[01:06:11] Dan Fitz says the coach was peeved off in the press conference. So that's pretty cool. And he does that. Cause he doesn't usually show a lot of that emotion. Paul says, I would have hooked Jesse and put Sifa in at center. Uh, and also Sifa deserves more minutes. Not a bad shout. Scott says, Roosters outside backs really are from the land of giants. They actually towered over ours tonight. I'm not too worried about the aerial threat from most other teams. I mean, that's, that's a fair comment all around.

[01:06:40] I think Dan, let's just look at some stats, which we haven't really done. I don't know how ugly they're going to get. So the completion rate, very much the same. They were 79. We were 78%. Line breaks for five. All they had twice. The offloads. They had 12 to six. So 12 is, you know, a little bit higher than where you want to be. You probably want to be around the six, seven, eight. So they had 12. They had about a hundred more run meters. Most contact was very much the same. We missed eight more tackles, 33,

[01:07:10] which isn't huge. The penalty count, as it always does in the NRL, evened out. Surprise, surprise. And guess what? We won the penalty count eight, seven. So that's pretty funny. Given the onslaught, the first time, 11, I can't believe that actually 11 errors each. The stats I'm seeing, Dan, are very, very even, but unfortunately our 11 errors, a lot of them led to tries from kicks. So the scoreline blew out.

[01:07:40] I'm not going to say it flatters the roosters, but looking at those stats, even from a stat point of view only, and that doesn't equal performance and effort, but from a stat point of view, it should have been a bit closer than what it was. Definitely should have been closer. Looking at their forwards though, only Tedesco, 194, you know, Victor Robbie, 195. He was magnificent. Steep ran for 167.

[01:08:08] All their backs made pretty much what ours did. As you said, it's okay when you lose the ball and defend it. No one remembers. Again, that's why Jack Williams got such a bad rap because he lost the ball against the Warriors and we conceded the match winning try. You know, if we stop that, no one remembers that night. But if you make 10 errors, you want to make them 20 out from the airline, not your own. I think that was the problem. I don't think we can. Well, the players, not we, so as now, I was at home eating twisties.

[01:08:38] Um, I don't think the players can defend errors. That's the biggest issue right now. Now, this is from, uh, from Greg. The comment's so big for the people listening, not watching. It's taking over almost the entire screen. So I'm going to get to it. It said, this one's for all the negative fans raging over that game. Uh, I swear, Cronulla fans go above and beyond to talk absolute triple about the team they supposedly love. How about you show some bloody hearts so you can heavily claim, uh, that you so heavily claim bleeds, black, white,

[01:09:08] and blue roll with the punches. Like we used to sharks fans used to be beloved for their commitment to a team that hadn't won anything. Now, uh, Greg's a loyal listener. I appreciate you saying that. I disagree in the fact that I think that tonight there's a fair bit to, uh, be critical of, but obviously there's a line that you don't want to cross and, you know, we're all guilty of doing that from time to time. So I understand people's emotions. I'm all for it. You know, the deal,

[01:09:37] don't get too personal and it'll be read out. It'll be spoken about, but I understand where Greg's coming from. Greg's not one of those people that says, don't criticize no matter what, but I think he does, uh, uh, not like it when it goes, you know, it's snowball. So just thought I'd let him have his say. Can I just have a response? Yeah, of course. Of course. Um, first of all, um, anyone that tags players delete all social media. That shit's not on. I'm in a lot of Facebook groups for the work.

[01:10:07] I'm in a lot of Facebook groups for the work I do with zero tackle. I also get a lot of replies to things. I write sharks fans are probably about 10th or 11th in the list of fan bases who are crazy nutcases. I won't, I won't name and shame, but anything you see in the sharks groups, it happens in every single fans groups. And if anyone wants screenshots, DM me on Twitter, I'll send them through. It is, it is ridiculous. A lot of people like myself tweet a lot of things. One, because I need a distraction to its therapy.

[01:10:37] And three, because it drives my social media numbers through the roof. Now I don't make any money out of it. I love the attention, et cetera, et cetera. But I say a lot of things on there that I just flat chat. I don't mean because one, I'm trying to get a laugh to trying to entertain myself because the team aren't doing well. And three, it's my Twitter and I'll do what I want. There are a lot of players. And I went through a lot of Facebook groups and I got some screenshots to discuss on Tuesday that were saying certain players, blah, blah, blah. If you're blaming one player tonight,

[01:11:06] I don't care who it is. You're wrong. They're about seven or eight. There's three players that I think have probably earned a stint in New South Wales cup. I think that's fair to say. There are a lot of people in the groups and that listen to this and listen to fins and quote that think any negativity should be thrown out. Okay. Do not get me wrong. I've said, do not tag players. Do not attack players. Do not tag players, families in groups. I've seen all that crap happen, but tweeting. I don't think BHU is very good. If anyone's got a problem with that,

[01:11:36] tag me, send me a number. Let's have a chat because people put a lot more money into this than they probably should. Let's be honest ourselves included because it's a passion and we've earned a right to say something just because these guys play football. And I know I don't have a great first grade rap. I played one game. I smashed the bloke. My dad was making checks. He's like, kid's going to make me rich. I got tackled, cried, quit and played soccer for 15 years. I can't play rugby league. Right. But if you ever been these people again, I'm going on a tangent. I apologize.

[01:12:05] People say, no, I don't think that meal is very good. Sorry, you a chef. What gives you the right to give negativity? Oh, yeah. But yeah, my God, everyone deserves their sake. Yeah, absolutely. And that's what this show is all about. I wouldn't open it up to the general public if it was all about being rosy and keeping everything bright. I know that there is a certain reputation for this podcast in particular me about everything being rosy. It's not rosy tonight. Plain sucked. And it sucked on so many levels. And we're here to talk about it.

[01:12:35] But I just wanted, yeah, Greg to have you say, because he's a legend. And I'm glad that you had your say, Dan. But yeah, don't think that we're not here reading out negative comments. We're reading out pretty much everything we get. If it's legible and not, you know, crossing a line, it'll get right out. Or if it's been repeated a few times, we might need to move on. But everyone gets to have their say. When things are rosy, things are just the rosiest ever. And when they're not good, they're not good. Daniel says, I get we have a bye and good for recovery,

[01:13:03] but mentally for us fans, I feel like going to buy it for a loss really sucks. I don't know. It kind of, it's kind of the back of my mind. Yeah. So I appreciate that. Like it's going to be a long two weeks and we play the Warriors and the Warriors are going really good. So it, and we haven't been very good against the Warriors for a few years now. We've had some shocking, shocking losses. So it's going to be a long couple of weeks. He does say though, if we had two weeks to chill, it would have been so much nicer. So yeah, that's sucks for us.

[01:13:34] Uh, okay. My brother's left the message. Something about 2016. Uh, Oh, here we go. Yeah. This is interesting. Topical hand man says, Metcalf will destroy us next game. He'll teach Nick how to play. So, uh, I don't agree with that, but I understand that it would be a revenge game for him in some capacity. It'll be built up in some, I don't know.

[01:14:06] It's from the public persona. It seems to have this weird kind of hostility, but I'm not aware of that, Dan, to be perfectly honest from the Sharks point of view. Did you know anything about that or? Not, not that I'm insider, but the, the words I'm getting, you know, he left for, there's a lot of hostility from fans that he left. He chased money, et cetera, et cetera. Kid wanted to play first grade. He's too good for New South Wales cup. I don't hold it against him at all. I love Metcalf and I love Healy.

[01:14:33] I hope they have great games in horrible loss in two weeks time. Kim said, why were we kicking the high ball and attack? Never look like scoring. I think that was a last resort kind of thing. And they were in the last few weeks, they've been putting the spiral up, hoping for a knock on, but you can't do it to Teddy. Teddy's amazing. I mean, kick to Dom young. They had a few bits of success there, but yeah, I mean, when that's when we're relying on that, you know,

[01:15:01] the coach and the presser describe it quote as an attitude check we'll need to work on. That's pretty telling. What are your thoughts on that, Dan, just from that little stinger there? That's good. I'm glad he, glad he admitted that publicly. You and I both said that what he says privately is very different. I think the players need to hear it publicly. Okay. Gasly says AFB will be riled up as always. Not sure where the others will stand. Hopefully Katara is back soon. They don't like losing.

[01:15:29] They're not just sitting in the bus in the way home, having a party. Like they'll be, they'll be stinging from it. I can't speak for every single individual player, but as a majority, like they don't like losing talking to Kyle hero. He doesn't like it. And this try scored against him, let alone losing. And he had one against him tonight and they lost. So, um, they take it a bit more personally than some fans might think. This is a great comment from Bo. Who's very active tonight, which we appreciate anyone doesn't think it's a good time to be a shark

[01:15:59] supporter. Doesn't remember the bad times. I mean, that's, I might get that tattooed on my, on my skin. That is remarkable because you're right. And it doesn't mean I have to double down here. It doesn't mean tonight's okay or excusable or anything like tonight was just terrible. And we didn't chat about it, but I like that. I also like that kind of attitude, Dan. Yeah. I a hundred percent agree with that. There were times there in the early 2010s where tonight was the norm. Uh, Garcy said, I love Metcalf favorite non-Sharks player.

[01:16:29] We'll see if he's willing for a selfie in two weeks. Boy, our listeners are on tonight. Now viewers over on the in star. Taylor says, I know it's early, but would you make any changes in the coaching staff for the future? Dan, what do you think about that? I've asked for coaching change in the assistance. I want some fresh ideas. I don't, I don't know who, uh, we've discussed that previously and put some names out there. Um,

[01:16:59] who would you, who would you let go of, or you just, you don't really care. You just want to have a change. Well, I think, I think Steve Price was linked with a move back to England. So probably him, if he goes, um, pick one, don't particularly care. Maybe the defensive coach after tonight, um, bit tongue in cheek, but also maybe just a little bit. Um, there was the former Titans coach, Garth Brennan, when he was available, I wanted us to bash the door down for him. I really like him. No one can succeed at the Titans before someone jumps in.

[01:17:30] Uh, there's going to be people that call for Fitzgibbon's head. No, no, that that's ridiculous. But yeah, I would like to see some fresh ideas. Yeah. Look, Josh Hanna is one that is trying to leave for three or four times for, for better opportunities, not having to go. If he does want to move on, I wouldn't mind some fresh ideas around Fitzgibbon. Someone more experienced than Fitzgibbon is the absolute must. Cause I, last year, full disclosure, I didn't think Fitzgibbon could run a bench to save himself.

[01:17:59] I think we need someone to come in and advise just a little bit more experience. Okay. And that, and for the people listening, that was from ghastly saying, Hannah could go to Perth if need be. Matt says, the game was lost in the first 20 minutes. Felt like we were considering a penalty in every defensive set in that period. I felt the same way. Uh, and I didn't like the way that was feeling or the way it was going. Uh, shout out to my friend, Adam Truen, who is watching. Love you brother.

[01:18:29] And also our good friends, Dan, I hope you have no beef with these guys. The green machine pod, the premier Canberra podcast have tuned in. They're, they're top, top people. They're great dudes. I love those guys. A hundred percent. Yes. Yes. You and I don't spend hours listening to other clubs. Podcast necessarily, but green machine, whenever I catch them, very, very enjoyable. And they recently celebrated a milestone. So congrats to them.

[01:18:58] Got a few more comments here before we wrap it up. Dan's been very kind. He told me he'd only be on for a short time, but he's hanging for the whole show, which I really appreciate who we got here. Hey, man says, well, Niko ever have a 10 out of 10 prime Cleary like game where he carries us to a win. So I was a bit disappointed in Niko tonight. And, and having said that, I was disappointed in a lot of players tonight and I don't think he had a lot of help from the forwards,

[01:19:29] but yeah, I didn't really get a lot from Niko tonight. I even made a little video with, with Gary saying, I thought he'd be the man of the match and he wasn't even close to it. Um, he had one try, try assist, 20 tackles, ran for 60 meters. He kicked four times. So yeah, pretty ineffective game from Niko. Unfortunately, I didn't think he was diabolical, but he certainly didn't lead us to even close to a victory, Dan. Um,

[01:19:58] I just check in. I, I had Niko much higher than that in his run meters. I, I've been looking, this is 118 here. That's a huge difference. I'm sure it's somewhere in the middle. Um, Niko, Niko had about five of them in his daily M year. And that, when he came back against the dragons, that was an 11 out of 10 game. Yeah. Yeah. Niko has had some light, the both games against Manly. We won two years ago. Um, the game against Manly a couple of weeks ago,

[01:20:27] he was pretty bloody close to 10 out of 10. So I don't know. I don't know if that's right, but yeah, tonight he was, he let's say, okay. Well, I think he was the third or fourth best player, which after the first two, you name them. It doesn't really matter. Yeah, sure. Sure. Daniel mentions to get, don't go back to 2010. So it'll be nightmares. Gasly says, do we have a mindset or some sort of mental coach? Uh, just asking out of curiosity. It's a genuine question.

[01:20:53] I don't know if I would define anyone doing that with the club that I'm aware of, but they definitely from time to time, bring in people to help with those things. So I'd say they definitely, I don't want to say experiment. They definitely use people like that. I don't know if it's a week to week thing. I don't know if it's a daily thing, but from time to time, they've definitely a hundred percent bring in people or a person to do that job.

[01:21:20] So we might need to ask the question officially to get an official answer, but definitely as recent as this year, they have yes, but I don't know how consistent, how many days they're there a week kind of thing. I couldn't answer that. Honestly, my brother says, when is Teague back? We are missing him now, Dan, I thought he was week to week, but I, I'm assuming after the bye. Yeah. I was shocked that he was named this week at all. I just figured out. Yeah.

[01:21:50] This is the way he was playing. I agree. We do miss him. I think it was RCB earlier said that we don't have anyone that can, can put that hit on. We can't like the, the hard ass, I believe was the word he used. I don't know if I put Teague in that category, but he was the one early in the season that was rushing out, put the shots on. I agree. We miss him big time. I think Billy Burns has done an admirable job the last few weeks. Probably not so much tonight, but you know, one out of four or five ain't bad. But yeah, Teague has to come straight back in.

[01:22:19] Do you keep Billy Burns on a bench, Dan, or do you, do you move him to 18? What are you, what are you doing? Billy Burns. No 18 or new town only because he and Colhoun, you can't carry both. I think Jesse's been pretty good. Again, he was, he was if he denied he had that lost ball, but no, you can't have him telekind Colhoun on the bench. You can only probably carry one or two. So no, unfortunately not that, not that I would begrudge him. He'd be very good, but probably not.

[01:22:50] And do you have any Intel on Toby Rudolph when he's due back? Uh, no, no, I don't. I think it was eight weeks when he did it and we're on about week four now. I think people forget how good Toby Rudolph can be though. Cause there was that, that three week stint where he was pretty awful, but around that, I thought he was our best forward last year for a lot of weeks. And people will accuse me, you know, you've had him on the show. You're a fan, blah, blah, blah, whatever. Maybe I am. Who knows? But I think Toby, Toby and big Tom,

[01:23:18] we've missed in a big way. I think Toby this year when he's fit, when he's healthy, uh, has been outstanding and I'm not, I'm far from being his biggest fan, but I think that, uh, this year I really liked what he was doing, especially off the bench. Yep. Yeah, I agree. I think he and Tom off the bench is going to be, it's going to hit extremely well. So do you stick with Confuci or you're just, you're assuming that the coach will stick with Confuci and that's why you're saying that to start.

[01:23:47] I definitely the latter. I'm not, I know Confuci is not my top seven. I think Hazleton and AFB, when they were starting, that's when we were rolling. I think you got to play one of the, look, I've handled Newelli, put him in Newtown, just, just leave him there. And two, it's the same. So you go, you go Toby, you go Talakai, you go Colquhoun, and anyone but Atkinson or BHU. There's my, there's my, you go Confuci over those guys. So you go your two bigs,

[01:24:16] your Talakai and your Colquhoun. Hamman's starting some trouble because he's a, he's a Woody Woodpecker. He's a troublemaker. He said, are we pausing Colquhoun's castle or whatever we were referring to him as for a week or two now? No, we're not. We're just saying he's human and he made an error, you know, one error. And he was great. Otherwise that's a personal shot. No, no, he's obviously laughing and making fun. I respect that. Yeah. Look, Colquhoun is what 20 games in. He's not going to be AFB when we're trailing by 20, when he gets on the park.

[01:24:46] So yeah, but I could have done without that error. I still thought he looked pretty good. He looked great. And he looked, he looks bigger and that, I don't know, maybe it's the hairstyle and the, the, not the bandana, the head tape. I mean, he just looks like a first grader, but yeah, again, that's, I'm going to hear about that loss. That loss for all week. That's ridiculous. Yeah, but it's part of it. I know Hamman's, I know Hamman's kidding. So I'm not aiming that at him, but I mean, if people can't see the potential, I heard,

[01:25:16] who was it? Josh Bolling. Someone told me that someone said Matt John, someone said if they were starting a team in Perth, Colquhoun would be like the second guy they bought. Yeah. Yeah. He or James Graham, but mate, I look, Iro put Marky Marky into row C today with a one-on-one tackle. He scored a ripper try and he ran for like 190 meters, but cause he got beaten on that last try. So I'm not going to watch it on purpose. Everyone's telling me that he got pocketed by this bloke. It's funny. Cause you said to me, you said to me,

[01:25:45] what happened in the last try? I had to turn away. And I was like, well, actually, not, not good. So no, I'm not going to go watch it. But when you, when you watch it, it's like, Iro is clearly going, I'm so tired. I'm so done. Try, but I'm not going to give you much. And that's what it was. He just sort of slipped around him. Did Akko get on today? He did get on today. He, what did he do for us? He had one run for 12 meters and made six tackles. He played in the middle for a bit.

[01:26:15] I think the game was mostly done. Maybe it was when they were around 30 points. Maybe that we were just hanging around, but yeah, that's what happened with Akko. That, that, and now do not get me wrong. I'm not blaming him for tonight for one solitary second, but that experiment has to end after the break. Yeah. I'm with you. You know, I'm a full forward kind of guy, but, but then last week and the week before he kind of helped us out aside from the coach thing. Like he, so it's, I'm with you though.

[01:26:45] I'm with you. I do agree. Two weeks out of 20. How many though? No, I know. I know. I know. And as you, as you, as you say, it's not about him. It's about the idea of a player. Absolutely. He's done everything we've asked him. I'm not bagging him at all, but no, he was utterly pointless tonight. Not that anyone, you could have put Nathan Cleary on for 10 minutes and he wasn't doing anything. Gasly says, uh, Sif can play center. It's just fine. If need be, uh, carrying him on the bench,

[01:27:14] he's a waste as far as Akko goes. So yeah, the coach is doing it for some reason. So not quite sure why we want to give a shout out to our friends of the ET stand podcast, who we can see have joined the feed. Of course, if they want to jump on and have a quick say, they're welcome to do so. No pressure. Do so. I believe they must've had a hot and heavy night as well. And we, we send our sympathies to them for going through this. Like we're going through it. No, we're kidding. We love what we do. Dan, what do we do? What's what, what do we do here? What?

[01:27:44] We've got two weeks to lick our wounds. The Warriors are coming to town. I'm nervous already about the Warriors game. The first thing we do, and I am going to cop to this because I completely forgot when we were discussing the bench is we tell her, Hepapuru, you're debuting for the club against the Warriors. We've seen how much these debuts and club debuts have lifted the energy. I'm just going to call a spade a spade. Newtown flew past the Roosters, New South Wales cup team today,

[01:28:13] 54 nil or 56 nil, whatever it ended up. And Hepapuru is the best player on the part as he's been the last four games for the Jets. We've missed him for two weeks and we've been beaten rotten in those two weeks. So that would be the first thing I would do is name him on the bench. Other than that, I'd say, look, guys go away. You've got three days. Just go do your silly haircuts on your Instagram, go surfing, go spend some time with your, your partners. Go listen to Shark Cast and get angry at the crap Dan saying about you.

[01:28:42] That's a joke. Of course. Then I'm saying, come back with a different attitude and get ready to smash them Warriors. Because I'll tell you what, if what we're seeing tonight in the comments, if we lose to the Warriors in two weeks coming off a bye, it'll be 10 times worse. And it'll be 10 times as deserved. Yeah. And I think as RCB said before, the more games we start to drop now in the kind of run to the finals, I know it's an early run, but you know what I'm saying?

[01:29:12] The more worrying it gets about top four or higher, which is where you need to be. But also the storyline that we can't beat the better teams. Well, they'll probably be top four, the Warriors are hanging around there by the time we play them. There'll be a lot of hype on that game, just because that's how TV works and media works. There'll be a lot of hype on, you know, two top four ish kind of teams at shark park sharks. Can they bounce back? Can the Warriors keep going? And so, yeah,

[01:29:42] I'm a little concerned already only in the sense of what I saw tonight was just nowhere near good enough. It was just, I guess I worry about the fact that they can do this. They can flick the switch and come out and just go, Oh, I missed the tackle. We're down 14 six. Now we're, we're conceding 42 points. Like it's a lot of points, like we had the second best defense coming into the game. Now I know a lot of the tries came from kickstand, so it wasn't necessarily defensive structures or whatever, but that's a lot of points.

[01:30:12] It is. So people are going to see that now and they're going to play to it, which is my worry when we had short wingers that they're going to cotton onto that. With what you said before, you're exactly right. He, hold on. I'm just not going to read that comment for a second. The Tigers game. Awful, right? Awful. Last week after the beat storm, not one single person mentioned that Tigers game. If we go out and beat the warriors tonight, it'll be forgotten. If we lose to the warriors tonight,

[01:30:40] we'll become a massive issue. You can't put back to back bad performances. If we lose one and win three and lose one and win three, we're in good stead. If we lose two in a row coming off that loss tonight, then you start seeing the negativity build. And I won't be here telling you next time, Oh, you know, it's all right. I don't care because it's a pattern, not a one-off. So yeah, the next game is really important. He is pretty good with the bounce back Fitzy. Like I say that most times and most times he proves it.

[01:31:10] Like he's pretty good with the bounce back. So long two weeks. So, I mean, do you, if you're the coach, so this isn't a Fitzy question. This is a Dan question. If you're the coach, do you restructure how you're going to do the bye week leading into the second week of the Warriors buildup? Or do you just stick with what you planned? Stick with what you planned. You can't uproot whatever. If you promise the guys time off, you have to deliver. Yeah. Or if you've told them to be there Monday, you have to, you have to deliver.

[01:31:41] I personally would say to them, go away for three days, put the phones away. Just go, go surfing, go get something to eat, go spend some time with your partners and your kids and, you know, catch up on Suits LA. I know that got canceled. It's just the first TV show that came to mind. Just, just get away from football for a few days. No podcasts, no biting to tweets and no replying to Instagram messages, no matter how far they are. No football for next three days. Come back and let's kick off again because we beat the storm a couple of

[01:32:10] weeks ago. We put three wins in a row. Tonight's not the football team. We are, you know, my, I get a bit wound up. I've seen it in the comments. Tonight's not the team. We are maybe last week. Isn't the team. We are either. Maybe it's somewhere in the middle. So I certainly wouldn't be blowing up any plans. They had, but I would insist. Hey, the wrestling is on tomorrow. Go watch that. Get together, boys. Have a barbecue. Charge $10 to get in. Not many people get that joke, but I don't care. I think it's funny. Just get back into it next Friday. Just hit the ground running. Yeah. Look, the Warriors are coming to town.

[01:32:40] You got the AFB connection. Stop him from doing media is what I do. Put a couple of young kids up. I don't know. Just, just relax. Don't look too much into tonight, but on Wednesday, when you return, you sit, you get your pad and paper again, Sam, you watch the game. You give me five things you did wrong. Cause I can guarantee to a man, maybe AFB aside, there's five there. Let's get the big improvement for the Warriors. If after the Warriors, yeah, then we can talk to on it up. If we lose. I actually think there's no storyline with the AFB thing. I don't think it's like, you could put him up.

[01:33:10] He's mature. He's carefree. I don't think there's anything from his point of view about proving a point. He doesn't have any bad feelings towards the Warriors. So there's no real kind of motivation there. I don't think so. No, but it's not worried about that. No, I don't think there is either. And I don't think there was anything to what started that where he missed the game because I missed the team songs. He had a bad game and was treating an injury.

[01:33:37] I think there was a couple of weeks ago after we won where he came off early. I didn't see him in the upper Cronulla. It wasn't a thing because he didn't, he's not leaving the club. So yeah, I don't believe there's anything there, but I guarantee you someone's going to ask. Yeah, for sure. Sure. And I don't know what's going to happen in three or four years time when he's, you know, retiring off contract, whatever it's going to be. But from my very brief interactions with him and being around him, super stress-free,

[01:34:06] super locked in already with everyone, very jovial, if anything. And I'm not suggesting he can't find trouble or he can't be on the wrong side of an argument or whatever, but I've been pretty impressed with him out of everyone this year, both during games and then before, after during the week, like his attitude seems really spot on. So I'm not going to lose too much sleep about him during the bio week. Touch wood. And hopefully everyone else just behaves themselves.

[01:34:35] Marky Mark five said, this is the first game we haven't really been in this season. And we do have a lot of injuries, especially in the forwards. We will smash the Warriors. So I like that. Hope you're right. Again, with the injuries, I thought just tonight, I thought on paper, our team was way too good to dish up that kind of performance, especially against a team. So inexperience from the roosters. I mean, we understand that they're, they're hyped on energy and their families are there and they've got the t-shirts made up. I get all that. They're obviously talented.

[01:35:05] They're playing in RL, but I just don't think you should be out in food. So she'd be able to match that enthusiasm. And that was pretty disappointing for me personally. Daniel says, another, this is a different Daniel. The Daniels are coming out everywhere, which is awesome. Love Daniel. He says, do you think we would have lost to the roosters in our LW team tonight? We would have probably lost to a few in our LW teams. Well, they're the champions. So yeah, probably.

[01:35:35] And then we're back. We're back, dude. Like they're back in training and I can't wait to just start covering that. It's going to be awesome. And we've got a pretty good team this year again, a little bit different from the past few years. So if you like NRL dub, Dan and I will definitely be covering that for you. And, and we like it a lot. So we're, I think we're what four or five weeks away from kickoff. Yeah. It was a hundred days the other week or 50 days, probably 50 days.

[01:36:03] But just on that, the roosters that were playing for new South Wales the other night, like Olivia Koenig were absolutely breathtaking. So wouldn't put it past them to beat us more because they're good. But yeah, we were also very bad and I'm looking forward to covering that because I got some exciting thoughts about the NRL dub. More on that later. Awesome. That sounds great. Well, Dan, we might start wrapping because I promised you only a short time, but as usual, our listeners and viewers have been incredible and keeping us on air. Which is fantastic.

[01:36:33] We love doing this. We love talking about sharks in good times and in bad, as I've told a few people tonight, what the hell are you doing? Well, this is what we do. We can't just not come on when we lose. Otherwise, what's the point? I don't, you know, I'm not suggesting that anyone said that, but they were like, don't do it. Well, not, not don't do it. They were like, how can you do it? It's like, well, of course it's not as, um, what's the word? It's not as enticing, I guess. Like there's always a bit of, all right, here we go. But once we hit record, we're up, we're at them. It's time to rock.

[01:37:03] So appreciate everyone who's been in touch. We've had ring-ins. We've had a thousand messages. Hopefully we got to everyone. If we haven't, we'll, we'll try and respond in different ways. But, Dan, tell everyone about where they can hear you and read your work during the week, please. Well, this week should be a fiery fins up podcast from Terry and myself. Check that out on Spotify. I just follow me on Twitter. rugby league outlaws. We'll be filming tomorrow night. Again, expect a little bit of a to and fro between Terry and myself. He's a faux Queenslander.

[01:37:33] And zero tackle. I'll have some articles this week. Had the 10 biggest origin snubs last week going gangbusters. So yeah, I'm pretty much everywhere. Good luck trying to avoid me. Yeah. Good luck with that. It's a, it's impossible, especially on pay-per-view days when you don't want to see it. And then Dan goes, I can't believe this just happened. And you know what happened to me today, Dan is not a big deal. Like, you know, I try and watch the TV smack down or all. I try and watch it as soon as I can, but usually it's a nighttime thing for me.

[01:38:03] And so I was going to watch it like tonight, like after I do all my podcast stuff and send everything off, hit the sack, hit the Netflix. But then on my podcast feed, Sam wrestling, that guy pops up and the headline, and I'm going to spoil it for everyone. The headline is the white, it's a back. Oh, well, I better tune in and watch that. So I tuned in and I watched, I watched the end and, and there, there was our boys and girls. So it was good to see him back.

[01:38:32] But anyway, I don't know. We're just, this sometimes happens. We get to wrestling and we know it's home time. Dan appreciate your time. Really, really appreciate it. Thank you so much. You know how much I, I appreciate it. So we'll be back with more episodes and things during the week, just because it's bi-week. We're not going to go anywhere. You'll be hearing from us. We'll stay in your grill. That's about all we got. Sharks lose tonight. Sorry about that. I'm not the reason why they lost, but I'm very sorry because I know how much you all love winning, but we'll get them soon. So just stick with the team. I know it's hard.

[01:39:02] These losses are terrible. I get it, but we'll be okay in the long run. This club will be okay in the long run. We've got the Warriors coming up. Big game. Get your tickets. I said the last game would sell out. I think we were a couple hundred tickets off that selling out, but the Warriors have a big fan base, especially when they're winning with all respect. So it'll be a bumper crowd down there in a very small capacity. So get your tickets while you can. We'll see you down there. We'll talk to you a million times before then. I promise. Dan Nichols, goodbye. Good night. Sweet dreams.

[01:39:32] Dream of 2016 and things like that, my friend. We can't play the song. We'll have to play the intro music on the podcast, but we will see you all later. You can watch the replays of this later on. If you just joined, I can see people joining. I apologize. We're going to get out of here. We've been here for a few hours now. Up, up, Cronulla. That's all I got. Thanks, Dan. Talk to you soon. SharkCast is supported by the best and most honest real estate agent in the Sutherland Shire, Jason Hawes from Crips & Crips Real Estate.

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