Repost: Life's A Mitch Podcast with guest Sam Shinazzi (SharkCast)

[00:00:01] SharkDase, SharkDase!

[00:00:12] Back in the Shire, tell your voice like Tom from Twitter, camera out with a track beat

[00:00:31] Hey folks, Sam, Shinozi here from Sharkcast Pod.

[00:00:35] This episode which we're about to hear which is a collaboration or if anything it's

[00:00:40] me appearing on someone else's podcast and that person has been kind enough to send

[00:00:44] me the audio, that person is Mitch Kelly from the podcast, Life's Mitch has done

[00:00:51] over 100 interview-based episodes. We're gonna walk to Life, we're in a great chat. He wanted

[00:00:57] to talk to me about my journey as a podcast star, as a Shark's fan and we doubled with a few other

[00:01:04] things as well. We've been trying to schedule this for a long time but unfortunately our schedule

[00:01:09] did not meet until today but I thought it'd be kind of fun just to sort of bounce off each other

[00:01:13] and I wanted to find out about his life and his journey. So just a bit of a warning for want to

[00:01:19] better word that this episode is not completely shark's based. We also touch on a few subjects that

[00:01:25] get a bit serious about life, nothing shocking, nothing crazy but we do have younger listeners.

[00:01:32] You might want to just be aware of it, we hear a few subjects that they're not used to hearing

[00:01:37] on Sharkcast Pod. Certainly nothing that they won't hear in real life so just a little bit of

[00:01:47] a bit of a journey discussing our journeys and so if this episode isn't for you, completely

[00:01:53] understand, skip it, delete it, do whatever you go to do. I personally think it's a good

[00:01:58] listen between two people connecting which is actually what the whole episode's about but if it's

[00:02:03] not for you, no harm done, no worries. Having said that, Life's a Mitch, Kelly's in the

[00:02:18] Hey everybody, welcome back to another episode of Life's In The Edge Show. It's been a while since

[00:02:22] I've done a pod at this busy, just been busy with life and everything and been keeping busy.

[00:02:27] This next guest, we've been trying to put it on the cart for a while when we've been busy due

[00:02:31] to different workshops and everything and for those of you who know, I love the game of NRL

[00:02:37] or rugby league for the international listeners and I go for the club or the franchise, the

[00:02:42] Ruralist Sharks, the huge fan and the next guest has been running the Kerala Sharks podcast,

[00:02:48] Sharkcast for the longest time. The longest serving Kerala Sharks podcast I believe that I can't

[00:02:55] do it just this one introduced, one of the one of the hosts and the man Sam Shinesi, how are you

[00:03:00] today's air? Hey Mitch, hey going look first of all apologies for taking so long to appear on your

[00:03:10] season so definitely a longest Sharks podcast and also one of the first, I guess fan related

[00:03:20] club podcasts as well. So somehow we got it off the ground early and we've been running ever since.

[00:03:26] That's cool, that's um, I only know of one other one other rugby league podcast going for so long.

[00:03:33] This week in league, it's just a bunch of guys who host there, three different hosts, they look

[00:03:38] at three different clubs and it's not specific to a club but they you know, they review games

[00:03:43] and it's quite a good laugh. So I will be, you know, ingesting the NRL content for a long time now

[00:03:49] but for those of you who might be new Sam said we're going to do like a cross collaboration team so

[00:03:55] we're going to on an interview, you've got to ask you some questions sort of the genesis of your podcast,

[00:04:01] you know, you're a bit a little bit about your as a person and your journey to being a Sharks fan

[00:04:04] so memorable highlights and then we'll switch it up, you can ask me some stuff and how I got involved

[00:04:09] and absolutely everything and one of the first things I like to ask everyone as a as another

[00:04:14] rice breaking tool is Sam take yourself back to as far as you can remember. What was one of the

[00:04:20] first things you were ever a fan of whether it's a footy, a show, a book, what was your first ever

[00:04:25] fandom, do you reckon? There's two things, Mitch that are constant in my life and they have been

[00:04:31] sent to us a young fella up until this very day and that is sport and I'll say rugby league

[00:04:37] primarily, I'm only a fan of a few sports I'll say rugby league and music and both of those

[00:04:43] memories are around the same age probably around five years old you know my parents playing some

[00:04:49] music in the kitchen I have memories of that and then growing up a music fan became a musician

[00:04:57] from the age of 13 up until now played a bit of music on the side and the other thing is rugby league

[00:05:04] and my family yeah my family was sort of fans of both of those things and rugby league for around

[00:05:09] the age five I remember going to games and that kind of thing I didn't really become I would say

[00:05:14] full on passionate until probably aged to hand I mean I followed it from ages five to ten but

[00:05:20] don't have a lot of memories from then but from age 10 I've been pretty much a shark fan and

[00:05:26] there my earliest memories sort of been life but also specifically around two of my passions in life

[00:05:33] yeah nice we'll be able to give you a band of plug or what are your work or what's what are your

[00:05:37] what are your work just by just playing my name is Sam Shanasie and sing a song right up

[00:05:43] it's kind of what they would call the old country kind of vibe but very much you know accessible

[00:05:49] to most people's tastes it's not it's not hard on the years or anything but just yes sing

[00:05:55] a song right kind of vibe I've been doing it yeah for quite a long time I'm a group playing

[00:05:59] the drums and then switch over when I was about 20 to guitar to write songs and that's been

[00:06:04] my focus ever since and yeah just I really you know independent albums every couple years

[00:06:09] and play around the traps and you know before shark cast it was pretty much my number one thing in

[00:06:16] sort of still is but because of just how life works and yeah the way that life pans out music is more

[00:06:23] of a hot time thing now but that's my deal you can find us anywhere you want Spotify anywhere

[00:06:30] YouTube yeah that's the deal with the music stuff yeah yeah yeah yeah sure well I'll make sure I'll

[00:06:35] keep it link in there and you get the search description as well thank so okay that's awesome so

[00:06:40] love your music yeah so did you inherit the sharkies from your parents or were you independent

[00:06:46] from them and to the computer no so it's growing up in the shyre it was more my oldest brother

[00:06:53] got to older brothers my oldest brother big fan and he's about eight years older than me and

[00:07:00] my grandfather who's no longer with us but he was a big fan as well and through that my dad sort

[00:07:08] stuck in the middle you know I grew to love the sharks and to this day is a messy fan and that's

[00:07:13] kind of how that worked out but they would go to games then it's shark park you know from when

[00:07:18] I was young and they just take me and it was you know when you're a kid you get to the 40 it's more

[00:07:22] about the spectacle in the game but then probably around age 10 it kind of clicked and went

[00:07:26] that's pretty cool and yeah there are all in my family which are touched on later on sort of the

[00:07:38] mad storm fan it's interesting which I'll tell you the story later I've become a sharky

[00:07:42] fan too because I grew up in Newcastle that you know you blame music for a number of years and

[00:07:49] you know your sharky's fan you grew up in the shyre how did shark cast sort of officially begin like

[00:07:55] in a time where podcast went really prevalent like how did this process sort of start so

[00:08:01] the number one reason for starting it was the year 2014 and a lot of sharks listeners will

[00:08:08] immediately think that was the wooden spoony that was kind of the end of all the drama from

[00:08:14] a sada and a lot of injuries and just it was a really bad period for the club and I was

[00:08:23] really sick and tired of the way the media was portraying the club you know years after the fact

[00:08:28] that something that they were a part of for a very short time and at that same time so end of

[00:08:36] 2014 I happened to be in America on just a bit of a holiday from my day job is very much seasonal

[00:08:46] in rugby league terms so I work at fox sports and you know once the footies done I get it

[00:08:52] a little bit of a break it's a time bit of a break so I went to America to hang out and I'm a big

[00:08:58] NFL fan as well so I love the Minnesota Vikings and when I was over there I was listening to

[00:09:04] some of their podcast some of their live radio shows etc and it just hit me like a bolder lightning

[00:09:11] why isn't there one about the criminal sharks and then within like you know half an hour my

[00:09:17] mind's racing thinking I think I can do this he's some people I can do it with potentially

[00:09:23] he's how we do it etc but the start of 2015 I'd met up with a guy called Adam Newman who was

[00:09:31] a local guy bit of a person now on the sharks forums and that kind of stuff I we had a few

[00:09:36] mutual friends we had a beer or two and I told him the idea and because I didn't really want to

[00:09:41] start out on my own I thought it would be good as a duo and we just click straight away he loves music

[00:09:46] as well and he was sort of bad guy I was good guy in the duo and we just went for it we recorded

[00:09:53] our first episode I think it must have been for a season 2015 it took a couple hours to do it took

[00:10:01] maybe seven hours to edit a one hour show it was crazy because it didn't really know what I was doing

[00:10:06] but we got there we released it and people really connected straight away and then we got better

[00:10:12] or what we were doing it got bigger and bigger and then the clubs came along in the space of a few

[00:10:19] months and went hey we want to do like a video version of this so halfway through 2015 we're doing

[00:10:25] an audio episode a week but then we're doing a separate you know half an hour video show which they

[00:10:30] did in their studio at the shark so it became a really busy time have to definitely credit Adam Newman

[00:10:37] still made him on he left the show a couple of years ago of his own choice just to sort of do other

[00:10:43] things it's been time elsewhere and since then I've had a rotating regular guess so four or five

[00:10:49] people in my circle who come on when it's convenient we sort of plan it out and much like you

[00:10:57] and I had talking just have a talk about the sharks and and we've set up progress to do you know

[00:11:02] post games shows previews we interview players we usually do three or four episodes a week now so

[00:11:08] it's it's really snowballed and it's a big part of my life and and we've got lots of listeners

[00:11:13] all around the world who are just so loyal Mitch like they say the nicest things to me and it's

[00:11:20] become part of their lives so this thing that's become my one of my big things in life has become

[00:11:26] their regular listening pattern so it's been it's been a whole bunch of people helping along the way

[00:11:32] and but yeah certainly have to credit Adam Newman early on because he and I

[00:11:36] were like a duo for probably you know seven years and then and then he went his own way but yeah

[00:11:40] that's kind of this how it started and there were some other league podcasts out there I don't

[00:11:45] want to say that I was like the first guy or whatever you know ladies who do league um ladies who

[00:11:50] should say we're an awesome podcast that inspired me Mary who is a friend of mine um the boom

[00:11:55] rookies there were people out there doing it but I'm pretty sure we were the first club

[00:12:01] to kind of do it on our own as a club based podcast and across the ten years that years have been

[00:12:09] doing it do any interviews pop out like as personal favorites like what is the memorable

[00:12:15] interviews and guests you've had on over the time yeah I mean we've been so fortunate

[00:12:19] we've had access to the majority of players and coaches that you can imagine in the 10 years

[00:12:25] as well as former greats or administrators like there's like every time I interview someone who

[00:12:32] done something at the club I'm so appreciative of their time and the connection we make some

[00:12:37] of the big ones that stand out were we interviewed Shane Flanagan a number of times he was really

[00:12:43] kind to us the first time he was on he caused a bit of a ruckus he he he dropped a bit of a what

[00:12:48] he thought was a bombshell about uh a player instead of origin and then that kind of went viral

[00:12:53] and our podcast went viral it was kind of weird a weird situation for a couple of weeks

[00:12:58] but Flanagan was always really good to us he he came on the show I think two days after he

[00:13:02] won the comp and he was you know having slept and he brought the trophy so that was kind of cool

[00:13:06] uh the other big one which I love doing was with Damien Irvine who was a former

[00:13:12] chairman at the club and went through a lot of things and he's a good friend of mine I have to

[00:13:17] and we did like a two hour interview about about his time at the sharks and that was really fascinating

[00:13:21] but even just last week my chain of you Oregon Confucius comment drop him and he doesn't do

[00:13:27] interviews at all when he agreed to do one and we just had this sort of 15 minute chat about his

[00:13:32] life as a footballer and that stuff like that is really meaningful to me like it just like it to tell

[00:13:38] someone else a story and he was appreciative though it's this thing and there's been yeah there's

[00:13:43] so many like I'm so lucky the other thing is we got to be part of the grand final week and

[00:13:48] and interviewing most of the players grand final week was was unbelievable experience so

[00:13:53] it's been a good ride man. Even that dream that's why it did is too like I just I get a kick

[00:13:58] out of here in people's stories and yeah yeah I think you know these these days the the word

[00:14:04] the words like content creator and digital producer and all this kind of stuff they flashy words

[00:14:09] but ultimately you're trying to tell a story which is what I know I've listened to a whole bunch

[00:14:14] of your episodes and you're very much not question an answer but you're very like you know

[00:14:20] you're into the you based and occasionally like you know once or twice every two weeks so we'll

[00:14:26] do interview based segments and shows but the other times when we're sort of just doing our

[00:14:33] regular show or review or preview we're still trying to tell a story now think that these days

[00:14:39] you know people are so so kind of obsessed with you know hits and likes and subscribes and

[00:14:46] follows which I completely understand and I'm not saying I'm not interested in that sort of things

[00:14:52] but ultimately the reason you start as you know is to sort of either get across a story or

[00:14:59] or hear a story so I try not lose that connection the other thing we do which is

[00:15:05] we have a letter section mail section every every main episode we do once a week on the

[00:15:13] flagship episode and and the amount of mail we get is crazy and that connection I think is

[00:15:22] really helped with the listeners sticking around and being so loyal so people get to tell their

[00:15:28] story their feelings on the show every week that's also mean you know that you're getting

[00:15:34] pure feedback and interaction because you're physically getting the letters or you know you're

[00:15:39] getting the the text that out content so and you know as I've been a fan of a lot of shows over

[00:15:46] I've been this in a podcast now about 10 years as well and when you get your chance to be ready

[00:15:50] out like it's exciting as a fan like you yeah shows that the it's not lost and it's not the

[00:15:56] BS you're content being ready out and I think that's one thing that sort of shows a lot of

[00:16:04] do it because I get the information when I talk to the person so I've been lucky enough to

[00:16:09] expect the people from sort of all over like I've had Emmy award winning producers have had

[00:16:15] even an arrow players I have to spoke to Brett White a few months ago and he's a former blue former

[00:16:21] Cap King group and premiership and playing it was awesome and you know even the voice of

[00:16:27] Siri like it's been the idea was to do it to such a right wide range of stories to try and

[00:16:33] about the audience to listen and make it relatable I mean so I can about like consent and

[00:16:39] dating experts and that was the idea and you're lucky enough to get a review or you know

[00:16:46] got a few messages saying hey man like I really related to what you said I am I was lucky enough

[00:16:53] I appeared I'm at anyone in the listens to this knows I'm a huge fan of the show scrubs and

[00:16:58] I am I went on the game show mastermind and worse or the fake doctors real friends

[00:17:05] which is a scrubs podcast they ones you're national TV and it went semi-viral

[00:17:10] because Mark Faneal the host shared her any socials and appeared on that that game show and

[00:17:16] had a laugh and I got invited to be a guest on their fake doctor's podcast and spoke to you

[00:17:21] that's so cool bit it was awesome man I got to speak to Zach and Donald and I actually took

[00:17:26] it was awesome yeah and I got to I topped their no I topped the apple charts because a lot of

[00:17:30] their listeners come over to mind and they're like you're funny man and this and that so it was

[00:17:35] so sorry when you when you mentioned the podcast assumed it was like a fan one but I'm aware

[00:17:41] of the podcast talking about it's the two stars of the show yeah gently genuinely telling first

[00:17:46] ten to count stories and interviews from their time and I've been lucky enough to speak to some

[00:17:51] other I guess and some of the former workers on the show got like Randall Winston was a

[00:17:57] director and he was Leonard the the hook and his security guard and I was hoping to

[00:18:01] keep progaries one of the like set designers and now he's gone on to produce shows like Ted Lasseau

[00:18:08] a new one bad monkey who's been speaking to him a few weeks pretty excited about that and you know

[00:18:12] just if you're doing it and people like helping you create content based on your fandom that's

[00:18:20] yeah I can never be more thankful to those you give me their time because it's the one

[00:18:25] like currency that you can't replace so like you hear today like I'm a fan of what you're doing

[00:18:30] and I'm a fan of sharks so any you know you're kind enough to give me your time so I will always

[00:18:34] always thankful yeah like yourself yeah I appreciate that Mitch and I feel the same way about you

[00:18:41] and about other shows that I listen to you know people on a weekly basis and I'm so blessed to say

[00:18:48] right to me or stop me in the street or whatever and say how I love the part it means a lot

[00:18:51] and I'm you know always take the time to say thank you of course and that'll never change but

[00:18:58] I'm also writing to people or stop people with the street and going hey I really love your podcast

[00:19:02] it means a lot to me it gets me through my day gets me through my week and you know not everything

[00:19:08] I do is 100% original I mean we base the lot of what we did as I set off one of the Vikings

[00:19:14] podcasts that I listen to you know 10 years ago and so listen to you know not direct rip off

[00:19:19] or anything but just influence by other people and what they do and then put my own spin on it

[00:19:25] and you know hopefully I've influenced some people along the way as well and people started up podcast

[00:19:29] absolutely sting to us which is fantastic there are two other

[00:19:34] sharks podcast that is fins up with with Dan and Terry who are good friends of mine and

[00:19:40] there is a newer podcast called the ET stand podcast and those guys are including

[00:19:46] our day bolder man if you have the guys they're doing a really good job at what they want to do

[00:19:50] so it you know it's a big wide world and everyone's trying you know do that thing and

[00:19:56] I think they're trying to do it as respect please they can and

[00:19:59] the end of the day we just try to tell stories like like we were saying just before but

[00:20:04] let's let's let's start to you for a little bit your podcast called is called the

[00:20:08] Laps and Mitch yep yeah tell me when you start oh gosh probably just a bit over three

[00:20:16] years ago it was actually so I've worked in the mines now for that I don't know on youth

[00:20:20] and it's actually a night shift one known as talking to my friends and I always had this

[00:20:27] desire to want to work in radio probably one because I love stories into a continuously

[00:20:31] good told I got a head for it so you put two and two together and you got a nice voice nice

[00:20:37] deep voice oh coming up next on Laps and it yeah I don't know I just had a crack I bought the

[00:20:44] gear was sort of just during COVID and I lived in the LGA by myself I didn't have any family

[00:20:52] of friends I couldn't talk to anyone in person that always you know that I love so thought

[00:20:57] bugger it you know we're in age where the zooms this new trendy thing and so I went out and

[00:21:02] bought the gear and just gave it a crack and the first one was with my step brother and we just

[00:21:06] spoke shit and had a laugh and oh this is fun and eventually it just became this story telling

[00:21:15] thing originally I was going to ask people about their relationship so I figured that would

[00:21:18] feel that pretty quick and it did but you know the common consensus was as having a winch

[00:21:23] or having a bitch and just talking about people's stories and just become this ad-libbed

[00:21:30] non sort of rehearsed no preparation just talking like we are right now yeah I think that's the

[00:21:37] key Mitch not to every podcast but to podcasts like yours podcast like mine which are you know

[00:21:43] two different worlds but you know we we have a very loose run sheet that we go through and I might

[00:21:49] have some stats on there or some obviously I have the mail or my kind of thing I need to read out

[00:21:54] but aside from that it is very much you talk I talk let's agree let's disagree whatever

[00:22:00] and I think that my favorite podcast I like that now that you have to be good at that because

[00:22:05] if you're not good at ad-libbing or if you're not good at just talking and get around in circles

[00:22:11] of whatever or whatever it is that you may not be able to do that well it's not a good

[00:22:16] listen so there is a skill on up to it but having said that lots of people have that skill it's

[00:22:21] a human trait you know let's talk so I think most podcasts that I like you know there's a

[00:22:28] plant like you and I we had a loose plan today but we're certainly not following any kind of

[00:22:33] document reading out specific words etc and the other thing I was going to say about what you

[00:22:38] just said you mentioned something about how maybe how you started a lot of things with like

[00:22:43] having a bitch and that kind of thing man you've already hinted at it but a lot of your podcast

[00:22:48] episodes are about how can we make this world better how can we make this society better how

[00:22:53] can we get along better I've heard a lot of your episodes man and a lot of them are pretty deep

[00:22:58] you know I'm spoken about 40 24 7 you're talking about some real issues and I completely respect

[00:23:04] that well I appreciate that thank you and thanks for listening and yeah as I said earlier the

[00:23:09] body was to try and make it relatable and sort of you know talk about different things in society

[00:23:16] like you know we've had I've had mental health experts on yeah that you know qualified sexologists

[00:23:23] we've had an interesting guy he he's a male like not a male right activist but he's like

[00:23:31] fighting for equality in terms of like in America he used to date over this guy and he just

[00:23:38] trying to fight for basic like how would you put it in the US the mental health space for young men

[00:23:47] isn't prevalent in society so he's doing his best to try and get facilities in place and

[00:23:53] you know resources for young men or men in general just have someone to go to talk and have

[00:23:58] someone like and you know just talking about that talking with like comedians like Maddo Karni

[00:24:02] to be on triple J talking to you know opera winning opera singers and just talk about what it is

[00:24:10] and triple J I it's just I'm just going through to this now because I've done like a hundred and seven

[00:24:14] or eight of them and forget that's amazing dude and he's just like Emmy Ward winning producer

[00:24:19] kit and like I told him that because I I was suffer of ADHD and I've got the thing called

[00:24:23] Crohn's Disease with sucks yeah well I just I'm just speaking to other people and experts in

[00:24:28] that space and just trying to highlight what it can be like and make it relatable and it's been

[00:24:37] cool because those that have suffered from Crohn sort of said I'm genuinely pretty sick of

[00:24:42] about this but I just wanted to let you know that your story was really really nice to

[00:24:46] here relatable and I appreciate it so well you're welcome like I'd you and you spoke before

[00:24:50] like you don't do the podcasts or clicks like whatever they want to have but yeah I did this

[00:24:56] as a genuinely wanted and yeah like I'm a fan of what you're doing over there in Karni

[00:25:01] Leron you're on the boys you know doing you know great things and I just yeah I I really

[00:25:10] jig what you know I think they say that the greatest I'll ask you this question what is the greatest

[00:25:16] place of wealth in any country in the world in terms of knowledge so wealthiest place of knowledge

[00:25:22] in the world do you think what do you think for me it's the great yard because a lot of people

[00:25:29] take their ideas with them and they don't you know we don't get the world doesn't get to

[00:25:35] benefit from set ideas like the wealth of knowledge that people take with them to the grave

[00:25:39] is sad and if you know people do ever create a mindset and never go about it then

[00:25:46] humanities and this down and I've always believed that if you can create something and always do

[00:25:51] it and someone somewhere will appreciate what you've done that's that's something of always

[00:25:56] healthy and I'll put we should ask that a little bit better of it no no no I just yeah like you

[00:26:01] know you're creating something you know I'm doing the same and you know a lot of other

[00:26:06] that term content creators right there with the artists whether they film makers was there

[00:26:10] you know podcasts is whatever you know your idea is to try and have people consume what you're

[00:26:16] doing and hopefully enjoy and yeah like it they can ever refund because of course nothing

[00:26:21] or on that note I mean I don't really have an answer to your question that's going to be

[00:26:26] I think one that I want to hear back when I listen back to this show because I I'd have to

[00:26:30] think about that but I really like your answer but on that subject I'm a creator and so in in my life

[00:26:39] the best things I do the most the most value I can give this world is creating and when I say that

[00:26:46] I say that's my strength and not saying that everyone's going to love it but the

[00:26:50] young age I've been creating music my own music it's original some people love it some people have

[00:26:56] never heard it some don't like it that's fine telling the shark story for the past 10 years again

[00:27:02] a lot of people like it some don't that's fine I encourage everyone no matter what it is for

[00:27:10] photography art book writing anything it can be any kind of any kind of creating doesn't be art any kind

[00:27:17] of creating always in cuts people just to do it and do it for yourself and from that you never know

[00:27:23] what world is going to open up so with this podcast my friend that I always started it because we're

[00:27:28] so passionate about this subject and we wanted to tell the story from our sort of things

[00:27:34] that within two years and this is Alice in the Nerdist story I'm not being heads well or whatever

[00:27:40] within two years we got to party with the 2016 premiership team the night they created history

[00:27:47] we'd lived our whole life this moment we got to experience it the reason I got to experience

[00:27:51] it because we put ourselves out there we created something that was original and passionate

[00:27:57] and that was accepted by the club and they took us in and I mean that's just one example that's

[00:28:02] a highlight of my life right but there's different the reason I do it is because I need to get

[00:28:08] the content out like you're talking about how are you like to tell stories like the history it's

[00:28:13] like for me when it comes to the sharks I found that my life is so much more enjoyable when

[00:28:18] they hit record and I'll go to the talk for an hour about how we won talk for an hour about how we

[00:28:25] signed an amazing prop for next year talk for an hour about how we lost my favorite player

[00:28:30] in existence Valentine times you know what I mean like I get it off my chest I mean such a

[00:28:36] better place now that I get to do this regularly and that's a selfish thing right so we did it for

[00:28:44] our own sake and from that we've had a lot of great experiences met a lot of great people

[00:28:50] same with my music I put myself out there I play music and from that I've got to play in all parts

[00:28:57] the world I've got to play with some my heroes I've had people connect with my songs my long

[00:29:02] diet tripe images that if you could create if you put something out there in the world as hard as it

[00:29:06] can be you never know what's gonna come back I mean better I mean so much of that I'll just

[00:29:14] like how yeah that's awesome you exactly right though I mean as I said like I've been able to talk to

[00:29:20] two actors of the show that I love the most unbelievable I'm being working with some of their

[00:29:25] like former producers and exact producers and you know you exactly right like and it's not

[00:29:33] it there's nothing wrong with a humble break you know like in a show if it's the truth like you

[00:29:38] know you you've created something you've ridden along you met shark players and coaching staff like

[00:29:44] Flanow and got to pav a few beers with bremyship winners like that's great yeah and you've

[00:29:49] had to play with the world and none of that comes from sitting in home just oh I'll be

[00:29:56] shot it on this a lot of people that are having spoken to like so publishing authors but they're

[00:30:03] trying to get their music off the ground or whatever and even when I was living abroad you make

[00:30:08] people that your ordinary wouldn't have meant and to me I think that makes life more exciting

[00:30:13] so if you are a shark's fan or if you are a fan of these stories that I make and I tell a bit

[00:30:18] people I can say if you've got a creative outlet I have a crack at it create something you don't

[00:30:23] like it that's okay does have to go anyway at least you've done something yeah and so just on that

[00:30:28] point and again I'm just talking from my side of things I know you agree there's nothing wrong

[00:30:33] with doing nine to five I do nine to five you do nine to five like that's an honest world and

[00:30:40] if you're content with that that is incredible like my life would be a lot simpler and have

[00:30:45] more of a time and a lot more sleep if that was my life but it's not because I have this drive to

[00:30:51] kind of create things and you know even just I mean not many people know this and it's going

[00:30:56] to go out to the world but my friend and I've been working on a TV script for oh not a script a TV

[00:31:02] show for a number of years now and we're at a point where we're starting to you know trying

[00:31:07] do something with it and I'm talking you know we're trying for big-time stuff it's one of the

[00:31:15] kind of thing and that's even with some contacts we've spent countless amount of time on this project

[00:31:21] my friend and I started during COVID as cliche as that is and up to this day still working on it

[00:31:28] and it's one of the things that I'm really we're really trying to get across the line it's something

[00:31:32] we really believe in but end of the day we know that the likelihood is nothing comes of it but

[00:31:40] we're giving it a shot and I guess that's the other thing I wanted to say like nine to five is

[00:31:45] awesome I'm not saying if you don't go and create then you're not an awesome person you know

[00:31:52] I've got an eight year old who suffers from autism and he is just the light of my life

[00:31:57] and he's the best thing I've ever done right he's the best thing of the made there are millions

[00:32:01] billions of people out there and that's their story I've got this kid that I support I worked

[00:32:06] on a five I look off my kid that's an incredible thing to do it's take the kid out of the

[00:32:11] side to say in the medical world and you work and you help people whatever did you do like

[00:32:16] mention I know he's saying if you're not creative you're not a great person this is our story

[00:32:21] we're talking about creativity but I just wanted because there are people who listen to

[00:32:26] I think podcast and they sort of go listen to those guys on their high horses they get to

[00:32:31] create things well you know what Mitch didn't know how to make a podcast I didn't know how to

[00:32:35] make a podcast but we researched it in this day and age it's never been easier to create

[00:32:40] I think you'll agree with that Mitch whether it's music whether it's writing whether it's

[00:32:45] either you talk about self-self publishing authors podcast is it's an easier thing in the world

[00:32:50] to do you just go to put yourself out there and that's the hardest thing to do is put yourself

[00:32:55] out there and it sucks but when you get slammed by people for whatever reason be just going

[00:32:59] to be bigger and better than that the fact you published what did you say of a hundred and seven

[00:33:05] episodes yeah it's around there yeah it's awesome dude that's incredible like it's you know

[00:33:10] and again a lot of people start podcasts that I go through that you know what full credit for

[00:33:14] trying full credit for putting one out there and when people tell me are we've only done like

[00:33:19] 15 to 20 episodes I'm like that's that's still an achievement you know you should be proud of

[00:33:24] that we should be proud of a lot of things in our last Mitch I know we're getting deeper and heavy here

[00:33:28] but like and again I don't want to be the guy going if you're not creating then you're not

[00:33:33] achieving anything because that's absolute nonsense creativity can be any kind of

[00:33:39] platform or thing in your life you might you know make a cake for your elderly mother you've

[00:33:44] created something like I can be using the word very broadly so yeah just wonder that yeah

[00:33:50] old fair enough if I come across saying like if you don't create you're wrong now you're not

[00:33:54] you know what I was getting at an I say this to countless people on the pod so

[00:33:59] if you can if you're in an opportunity do I understand that you might be a single parent out there

[00:34:03] working your hours yeah raising three kids boys so if you know many times you serve I get that

[00:34:08] hundred percent that's creating right and you've created life like if you're

[00:34:13] surprising your mum for a 60th birthday you've created a memory yeah if you're trying like for me

[00:34:19] I try to uplift people like I'm blessed in some ways to be funny you're not on funny looking

[00:34:24] and most people in my life will describe me as being funny and I don't do it for the sake of the

[00:34:33] day then I'm trying to create a positive vibe or whatever it might be yeah so there are more than

[00:34:39] what there's a hundred million different ways to do it yeah yeah it is interesting though we

[00:34:44] keep coming back to that word and like I've got a LinkedIn I don't really use it much but on

[00:34:48] there I've got I think I've got like I'm a creator I create things and it's like well that's

[00:34:53] not actually my nine to five job but in parts of where I can I do try and create within that

[00:34:58] world but that's not actually what I'm in play to do but around all that I'm definitely trying

[00:35:03] to create things let me put you back on something Mitch you said you lived the broad will you live

[00:35:08] I was over in the UK for mostly live a pool for about a year but every year I spend like I

[00:35:18] circa 2015 2016 I just I just had a bag I got dumped by text message on news ee which is pretty

[00:35:25] cheap and like I'm not gonna blame her because she you know obviously felt the need to

[00:35:31] break up and that's fine like I'm not gonna I'm not gonna be a good genuine do what

[00:35:35] they thought was right I just and I thought you know what it's a new year New York Genie

[00:35:40] and a friend of mine said we wanted to try a little broad like Canada or the UK and

[00:35:44] thought I'll screw it I'll look into it and so you know what England's great

[00:35:49] I could go watch some football matches again watch some rugby league over there could

[00:35:53] just go and genuinely have fun because it was that it's one with a shark's with Gown Shitty and

[00:35:58] well I'm not gonna miss much turns of a home games or what not to why not I'll give it a few

[00:36:03] six months another got there and I found a job my met some friends I moved into a sharehouse

[00:36:09] and it was awesome you're able to find out when there's no like for me there was no greater

[00:36:14] healing factor or there was no like for me it was I've just never gated through 20 other countries

[00:36:20] by myself like this is so gratifying this is so like I never would have done yes if it wasn't for

[00:36:27] yeah and like you know break up the tough yeah we you know most of us have been through

[00:36:32] one or what have been dumped or have you and yeah so I can know what screw it I'm gonna go

[00:36:37] and I had had the best on I'll come back more confident I got back just before the grand final

[00:36:43] so I was able to go to a league club in Newcastle and watch the game and you know

[00:36:50] watch the 80 for three to go over that try and the place erupted all to love to go into the game

[00:36:54] I wouldn't and so on let me stop you there I completely agree about the traveling abroad

[00:37:01] thing and how that can change your life I did it in O'File for the first time went to

[00:37:08] I went to New York actually to to write some songs with someone someone actually got me to go

[00:37:14] over there and it was you know that was amazing and itself but I got to hang out in New York for three

[00:37:18] weeks when my favorite place has never been to and I was on my own getting there getting around

[00:37:25] went to DC went to LA all my own and it sounds like nothing to people maybe but for me

[00:37:31] at that point in my life I could barely you know make it up the road so to do that

[00:37:35] would you sort of what you're talking about on this was a shorter time that changed my life

[00:37:41] to definitely recommend that to people if they're able to do that in that situation

[00:37:46] but you also said you weren't gonna miss much at home but you actually missed the best season

[00:37:51] I watched when I could and at the time I'm like oh do I I just gonna go bugger it and

[00:37:57] yeah pardon me regrets not getting to a few home games that year and on there was at the 16th

[00:38:01] of 17 in a row they went on and I needed it you know of course yeah of course when

[00:38:06] when you need to do something something something else amazing happens but you know that's

[00:38:10] life and well at least you had life changing experience and you get to experience that

[00:38:14] watching it then you came home for it so that's pretty cool yeah it was great and

[00:38:18] 16 was a great year the final half of that year I it was a long deal and I got my

[00:38:24] started in the mines the rest is history I've been working on what have been working on and now

[00:38:28] I'm here in orange you know like I finally got off the equipment I mean like an amends

[00:38:32] that are all now and I'm lucky okay so tell me about the grand final day match

[00:38:39] West League's club in Newcastle the rooms full of storm and sharky fans and the big screen

[00:38:44] so my family is still mostly new in my parents most siblings most of my friends are there

[00:38:50] so yeah I moved back to there at the time and yeah just we're going along and

[00:38:58] lucky Lewis nearly whenever and he didn't move as a whole I think fudge for that yeah and

[00:39:03] you know then storm scores are here we go typical we're gonna choke and raro and and then

[00:39:09] for that last 10 minutes mate I didn't know it was possible for more it's been to be so

[00:39:13] tightly clenched it was ridiculous yeah but they're just knowing what's on the line you know

[00:39:20] 50 50 odd years of being a club and against the storm of all people who

[00:39:26] but you can't you can't deny how good they've been and when that final sign went and you know

[00:39:34] only up by two but that was enough I'm actually looking at a a sign 2016

[00:39:40] Championship jersey right now just brings back memories like you know gal holding up the

[00:39:45] trophy and I'm feeling during that era my favorite player was Luki Lewis just to see the big

[00:39:50] smiling face you know done it at two clubs and you're just you there like your bike

[00:39:58] extension you part of something and now this sky blue I'll not sky blue but light blue harbour fans

[00:40:04] that was there it was very satisfying to see the storm fans very quiet must admit but you know

[00:40:11] there was no animosity I had a joy to do with you beezus and guys from Melbourne who

[00:40:17] were unable to go to the game so they said there friends in New Year and Lack it was it was just good

[00:40:21] vibes and so that was for me that was green for all day and it was the best because I had probably

[00:40:27] one of their best knitsels of how to buy entire life and to bet the small things mate like

[00:40:32] is I mean I've got chills you just talking about that man and people on my podcast I've heard this one but

[00:40:38] I we went to the ground not too early but we had a bit of a pre-function on cast kind of meet up

[00:40:45] at around 9 a.m. three o'clock for a clock and a local up half near the ground and that was awesome

[00:40:52] but we're also nervous and I you know I'm someone that kind of dated a really needs to I mean

[00:40:57] don't look after myself that well but I kind of need to so I can function in a lot of ways and

[00:41:03] I was like I'm not gonna drink any bees or anything because I just want to go to the game

[00:41:08] enjoy it and hopefully we haven't had a good night remember at all you know just embrace it all

[00:41:14] much like can and but I was so nervous at the pre-function gathering I actually had like five or six

[00:41:21] kind of jack and coax and and I'm not a big drinker for starters but also just sort of calm me

[00:41:28] and it was away of me not drinking a lot to beer and you know getting a migraine my whole stick

[00:41:34] but that's what I remember you're in with the schnitzel iron but the jack and coax was all the game

[00:41:39] and then when I got to the game I didn't drink at all I was just really rock but you write the small

[00:41:45] moments of the day like I remember so much about it I'm sure this stuff I've forgotten as well

[00:41:50] which is a bit sad but such a great moment in our history the best moment in our history and you

[00:41:56] talk about Luke Lewis Mick Annus retired obviously that day winning the comp Paul Galen

[00:42:03] had played for so long never done it Chad Townsend local junior first look only local junior to win a

[00:42:09] comp and the other spectrum of it was in a jack bird and valentine home to his babies and just

[00:42:15] dominating at that level it was such a great story at all ends of it in a Chris Hineson when

[00:42:20] he second idle and you know not taking off his putty clothes for a week it was chaos but it was all

[00:42:27] about the community of shark spans and when I say that as you pointed out it's not about the

[00:42:32] shovel and shire it's better in the world I've had I've heard so many stories from our listeners

[00:42:36] about where people were people on planes traveling across the world not knowing the score

[00:42:41] crazy stuff the craziest stories I've heard I love each and every one of them I'm glad you told yours

[00:42:46] and yeah it's just it was such a great such a great time it's such a great time I hope we get there I

[00:42:52] feel like we'll get there again in the next few years I think we're on our way to something pretty

[00:42:56] special can I quickly share one more grand final or one grand final of course I'll probably

[00:43:01] am month after the grand final my best mate Brooksy he's daughter my I was was very it was born

[00:43:09] very crooked and the poor thing never left hospital and he and his wife cursed and we're trying

[00:43:15] to raise funds for for young white and I was a godfather and they just wrote around to everybody you

[00:43:25] know like local businesses 40 clubs the sharks donated a premiership winning jersey

[00:43:31] and the idea was to do like an auction and auction also and I thought I have to have that come

[00:43:45] it was really really awesome of that premiership side to send even though it was newcastle base they

[00:43:51] sent it there was no hassles everyone signed it unfortunately in January young white and make it

[00:43:58] and it's a real now it was devastating you know it was really sad day but so I've got a little

[00:44:06] plaque on the frame yeah it's a canal shark's 2016 premiers and I've got my name and curse to say

[00:44:14] for me it's it's not just a grand final when it was the fact that they tried to help out

[00:44:20] you know my goddaughter unfortunately didn't make it but yeah so it's by hanging that proud

[00:44:27] in the house you know I could absolutely that was one of those crystal-wising moments where I

[00:44:33] knew I was going for the right club so so I just had to share that because it's a beautiful

[00:44:38] base that's beautiful and I think that you've you've spoken about something that a lot of the

[00:44:45] clubs do do and I know I can only speak for kerala because I am somewhat involved down there

[00:44:51] and and they do everything they can you know I mean make it a lot of requests and

[00:44:57] the more important once and I say that you can use your imagination on the more important ones

[00:45:03] they go to the top of the list and they get things done and so back community and I think

[00:45:09] Craig Fitzgibbon who's been in charge for three years now and I'm not suggesting anyone else

[00:45:14] to the club didn't bring community into it because they have but Craig Fitzgibbon is really big on

[00:45:19] local community and and sharks communities so that's worldwide and you know I think that you'll see

[00:45:26] when we go to Las Vegas next year you're going to see people from all around the world in the black

[00:45:32] there is going to be a strong contingent from here from Australia obviously but I know American

[00:45:39] fans who are going to go and they're looking forward to it I know a lot of European fans are going

[00:45:44] to go to the game it's a worldwide fandom and I'm not suggesting it's you know up there with the

[00:45:51] LA like is or whatever but for people to assume that we're a subtle and shy are only kind of

[00:46:01] I can tell you that you know we're hurting I think over 40 countries and that's not just like one

[00:46:07] person in each country there's a lot of people listening in 40 different countries so our show every week and

[00:46:12] we have people traveling around the world to shark park which is completely you know as you saw last

[00:46:17] week it's quite the spectacle to go from you know say someone travel from London and they come to

[00:46:22] shark park for this time first time it's quite a quite a throwback you know so the club's doing great

[00:46:27] things whenever they can I've got personal friends who work with the club in fact someone just

[00:46:32] this week is doing a favor for me community based the past on to someone else to make their day so

[00:46:38] I'm glad you told that story mentioned I'm very very sorry about how you got thought thank you

[00:46:44] that's the very kind of you to say and yeah it is a worldwide thing and what was the question

[00:46:48] before you wanted me to sort of give you my thoughts on the current squad yeah it's going yeah

[00:46:52] the coach and I kind of think well I'm as a fan on I'm happy I'm glad to see you know some

[00:47:02] amazing performances and you know you get the whole like although a fact track will last year

[00:47:06] they're about out and straight finals and stuff look 250's credit I give in nothing like an absolute

[00:47:12] past mark he's you know what's he's third or fourth unit coaching and he's got a good squad and

[00:47:17] you know they're doing well and like you know you could critique them saying I should it on

[00:47:21] that the reality is is that they've made finals every year he's coached there it's good chance

[00:47:30] they'll be a top four finish again this year and yeah you know the sembler of great squad

[00:47:35] and some great juniors and like young you know Dan Akinson like that combination with him and

[00:47:42] Brailleen and Arves beat the storm maybe the nights and you know absolutely put a clinic on the

[00:47:51] season back on track and now they won the first normal whatever rounds and now in first and this

[00:47:55] is not blah blah blah but the fact is I'm ultimately happy with how they're going like and it's

[00:48:01] nice to see there seems to be a good you know chemistry amongst the playing group they genuinely

[00:48:07] want to beat every other and you could critique the whole oh you know the handling errors are

[00:48:14] killinists and they give way to many penalties or I don't yeah look that's frustrating to watch

[00:48:18] at the same time there's been more good than bad and yeah I think yeah they're going well and

[00:48:25] I'm hoping what I would like to see is I hope that they would win a finals match and if they do

[00:48:31] that then I give 50 an absolute tick and if they go any further than that how yeah do I think

[00:48:36] they'll win the comp probably not you know like panorists and put a 40 odd clinic on us and we

[00:48:42] know we can beat the storm but on their day if they rock up and just put in an admirable form

[00:48:48] so I'd be happy with that so yeah I think they're on the up check and you know there's a certain

[00:48:52] forward from the warriors coming over next year that I think will be very impactful but the

[00:48:57] sharks have got a huge forward you know hammer and you L.A. Roy's hunt you know Toby like to to

[00:49:03] pull her and like there is some massive forwards in that squad and we've got one of the best

[00:49:08] backlines in the comp I reckon and I think yeah like I discover like Cal Ero like wow

[00:49:14] like yeah so overall the squad is very solid and we also need to see Nico when he comes back

[00:49:21] off his injury and you know Braden's playing again this week so you know I'd try to get that

[00:49:26] I'd like to see him or settle halves bearing because I know it was very interesting stuff but

[00:49:30] I think Acca's probably the solution at 5-8 but you know people will have different opinion that's

[00:49:37] fine but alright then an Acca behind to come back would be awesome. The strength of what you're talking

[00:49:42] is recruitment, player depth and then also the ability to change on the run so I think the game

[00:49:50] against Melbourne this year was one of my favorite sort of coaching moments in my time of

[00:49:56] watching the game I think that the best the best one was probably when Cooper Crunk won the

[00:50:01] Grand Final with the roosters with no arm that was an amazing coaching feat but I think the way

[00:50:07] we beat Melbourne because also the blueprint for the Titans and Night Scams to an extent but that

[00:50:14] Melbourne game when they had probably 24 hours to get ready or less that was unbelievable that

[00:50:22] performance and also the coaching effort and that's why I kind of a lot of faith in what Craig

[00:50:27] Fitzgibbon is doing to be top four without Nico Heinz for half the season with Trindle coming

[00:50:32] out of the team a lot of injuries throughout the year we barely had like a Rudolph and

[00:50:38] how many of you are out in theory our best props they've barely been on this field together so

[00:50:45] Fitzgibbon to keep it together and when more than you lose top four still and looking

[00:50:50] you know looking like they'll get there I think that's an incredible effort now that we do need to

[00:50:54] win a final game I'm with you that like no matter what this circumstances at some point this year

[00:50:59] we got a win a final game and I kind of think we will I mean the game last week you're at

[00:51:04] that was like a final game I know the quality wasn't as good but it was obviously very dramatic

[00:51:10] and to win that one I was pretty happy yeah I thought at the start of this year the game

[00:51:16] against the warriors over there I know the warriors come out firing on thing and oh they're going

[00:51:20] to put a clinical in this year but you know they showed resolve their showed resilience and

[00:51:26] they're way back to win well like 46 points I think it was and I didn't see that last year as

[00:51:32] much as I did in the Warriors game and the sharks have had yeah like there there've always been

[00:51:37] known to be a gritty team but to have that resolve and to have that mindset so you know what

[00:51:43] no we're not done we're not gonna be last year we're we're we're in this grind and on my air

[00:51:49] and that resilience has grown and very satisfying to watch that and yeah you see that

[00:51:55] victory against Melbourne I was up at Magic Ground when they beat the troops you know

[00:52:00] I decode someone in the crowd defense is optional here but the sharks just kept going and

[00:52:04] the goosebumps on five so that was one of the greatest love at Miss years I've been able to go to

[00:52:09] yeah and so obviously the roosters are amazing attacking attacking team this year but coming off

[00:52:14] those rounds up to that game they were in like record breaking kind of place so for us to score

[00:52:21] 36 points their 30 was unbelievable you've mentioned the Warriors game mentioned the Melbourne game

[00:52:27] we beat Brisbane at Sun Corp on over as been like great but we never wind up there so they've

[00:52:31] done all these things they had their second biggest away wind against the Titans they've come

[00:52:36] from behind they've won in golden point they've done all these things this year the only thing

[00:52:40] haven't been able to do is sort of like knock off your West Tigers at like a beat parrot parrot

[00:52:46] like I understand when questions coming about those kind of games but as far as the big stuff goes

[00:52:52] like that kind of answered every every question aside from of course the penner is the buckle I'm not

[00:52:59] quite sure what happened there but that's a pretty good season so far we've a long way to go

[00:53:05] 100% and you know we've got a local diabetes week so they say that all previous

[00:53:11] form goes out the window and you know there was only 10 point buffer last time we played the

[00:53:16] drags and they're on fire like that penney hunt Lamax combination is it's pretty lethal

[00:53:21] so you know they're going to go down there and do their best I'm hoping it's going to be

[00:53:27] well you could game it always is I'm thinking is my tip for the year my prediction

[00:53:32] the fourth place play off will come down and ask play mainly in the last round I reckon

[00:53:36] the winner of that gets fourth there's hope you wouldn't say that match I mean we do have

[00:53:40] good recent form there but overall obviously it's a it's a nightmare of a place for us to go

[00:53:45] not many of a team to play but if it's given throws it out the window he's a relative in

[00:53:50] new coach to new history so I'm not only worried about that kind of thing but I don't really want

[00:53:55] just on my own kind of health I don't want to come down to that now it'll be very frustrating to

[00:54:00] I'm backing is in but you know Tom Turbo on a good day oh yeah I'm doing like I've done

[00:54:08] if you've let a predictors and stuff and I'm a huge fan I just super coach and listen and

[00:54:12] put on a huge regular fan sharks come fifth they'll play 6 to 7th or 8th so I think it's fifth place

[00:54:17] eighth is eighth so I know that they don't have that added security but if safe they come fourth

[00:54:24] and have to play the roosters and falls 40 you know it's say they win and then they're going to be

[00:54:29] absolutely gasped to follow in week whereas if they come in a fifth they might have to play like

[00:54:34] I don't know a dragons or a dogs or something like that all you know like it's such a tight

[00:54:40] comfort possibly but you could also make arguments that are what we better to finish

[00:54:46] if you've played a lower eight I don't know there's an argument there and a debate to be had

[00:54:51] I am not on the side with that I want to finish fourth or more a fourth or higher I should say

[00:54:59] sorry I want to finish between 104 and I want to get that second chance second chance is key now I know

[00:55:08] in 2022 against the cowboys we had the second chance against south but we were so injured and gased

[00:55:18] in the extra time of the week before we were never going to win that game against south I just think and

[00:55:24] we saw you as a roosters last year we got knocked out so we need the second bite and I think it would

[00:55:30] be kind of okay for us to go to Melbourne for example and give it a good shake and we've done

[00:55:36] up before doesn't mean we can necessarily do it again but I think we can go close if not do it

[00:55:41] then you get the week off Mitch and you won't week away from a grand final at worst you come back

[00:55:46] Sydney probably play it all the other on statement more park and you're playing the winner of the

[00:55:53] lower top eight week too so that's why I'm kind of not on board with coming fifth I can

[00:56:02] completely see your point but that's my stance on that one at the moment. It's looking at the

[00:56:07] rest of the season it's not going to be easy everyone's saying the shark's going easy running this

[00:56:14] you can make arguments but the fact is they're still there so we've got obviously the dragons

[00:56:20] this week the warriors the week after could chance for a bit and but it's Sean Johnson's last

[00:56:25] ever game yes so that'll be up for it and the week after that we have menly so

[00:56:30] you know it's not an easy run I don't mind having that kind of running because it's not it's

[00:56:34] not like lethal and brutal but it's not easy as well like we've had easy runs in and we've seen how

[00:56:38] that goes so it's not it's sort of an indif it's an in between which is fine. If you look at

[00:56:44] panoreth for example they've got an easy running I know they're like the best team out there but

[00:56:47] they've got an easy run in the storm have a pretty easy run into again quality team doesn't really

[00:56:53] matter to them so I think we're going to earn wherever we finish I think we'll beat the warriors

[00:56:58] I'm hopeful of being the dragons manly will just come down to how bad we want how bad we need it we might

[00:57:04] even need it by that point we might rest players depending on the situations we have the

[00:57:09] capability of winning all three games I think when it comes to the manly game if for some

[00:57:13] reason we've locked up a top four spot they might rest a bunch of guys having said that

[00:57:19] Nicko will be kind of ready to go so you might want to play him it depends he feel about that

[00:57:24] the other thing is Mitch we can actually finish higher than fourth it's not unrealistic for us to

[00:57:28] finish third for example so this number of ways it can go down that's right now panoreth in the

[00:57:35] storm rest players then you know there was a chance dropped on I think it was James Graham's

[00:57:42] podcast of month or two ago that he's expecting a lot of the storm players to be rested when they

[00:57:47] got up to Townsville and like you know with panoreth obviously Clarice being jed and he's going to be

[00:57:53] rested but you know they might think the same I've got a top four spot we don't need to

[00:57:58] put on all of their players all at once and and the oven's done that last year's one game before

[00:58:03] finals you know the panoreth be great so it has come on like it's so yeah totally possible

[00:58:09] and it makes me so I don't have to say what's going to happen all I know is I'll be rooting

[00:58:15] as hard as I can and I absolutely think that there will be a finals victory and if anything

[00:58:24] extra happens then that's awesome yeah I think that we've shown we can go on a bit of a roll like we

[00:58:30] won from was it rounds I don't know four to eleven I think we won every game like we want

[00:58:36] a bit of a stretch there so we're currently on a three game winning streak as well oh maybe it's

[00:58:41] four games but we know how to put them in a row so I think that you know obviously the media is

[00:58:49] very much not having us in the top so three contenders they even have the dogs ahead of us as

[00:58:55] far as like you know vibe and and and story they've almost we're almost like an afterthought

[00:59:00] in the top four discussion and I don't care about that because that's great to be under the radar

[00:59:05] but I've got a lot of faith in the coach a lot of faith in the players that we have out there

[00:59:09] they're not perfect but they give every in their gut and as long as they do that I think

[00:59:15] they're in every game man like they just have to start well we when you're knocking off Melbourne

[00:59:21] in Melbourne with no players then if all your players are there and you're in the right mindset

[00:59:25] you can do it again you know the panorof thing I think's a bit of a it's definitely not a

[00:59:30] who do but I think panorof we need to overcome at some point just to sort of prove to ourselves

[00:59:34] we can do it and that's not an impossibility this year they've come down a little bit

[00:59:38] they're still amazing they'll come down a little bit so it's as a fan as you said it's very interesting

[00:59:43] we don't know where we're going to finish down a who we're going to play don't know where we're

[00:59:46] going to play so it's pretty wide open at the moment and that's not the worst place to be

[00:59:52] 100% and I was just thinking like talking about the shark you got me thinking how actually

[00:59:57] we've become a shark Eastman let's go so young kid grew up in Newcastle and you know the

[01:00:02] nights one team town and so I was about seven or eight when they won the grand final and

[01:00:08] it was during the era of super league and you know you can choose us to who to watch what to do

[01:00:12] and so I will do a good night still a good for the mountains like who to walk over and dad

[01:00:17] dad was a massive chooks fan my mom was parrero and Melbourne hadn't really manifested much

[01:00:23] yet and my brother was sort of on the precipice of you know picking a team for himself

[01:00:28] he old and brother and we had like a country rugby league like seeing at school and a few of the

[01:00:34] country players come out and I met David Peachian so it's just talking to him and so he said

[01:00:40] was born and double like I was and so I just got to watch him and so we had talentity

[01:00:48] was I mean that guy cuts a team up like no one else or they were the same it's ridiculous

[01:00:52] one of the best of all time I'm of the best and just seems like a genuinely well I remember

[01:00:57] I think it was someone from the dog side school against him and he shook their hand and always

[01:01:01] tried to recreate like that whole good sportsman and just seemed like a genuinely nice boy yeah

[01:01:06] he's from double on from double and he's awesome and let's see how much I'll fit and seeing

[01:01:11] you know they obviously lost the grain of 400 and that time too is like the fire out but yeah

[01:01:16] yeah and ever since then in this year so far and then you learn a play is like you know Jason

[01:01:21] Stevens on the footage as I'll disguise awesome and you know you look at your brick and

[01:01:26] all these you look at your jackbirds and you're always to like watching a young poor galleer

[01:01:30] around the park too and yeah the rest is history and with the club that have had amazing

[01:01:36] players during its time and I just made sense like Newcastle just didn't feel right for me

[01:01:42] and yeah I don't know that's how I become a shark to you know just made sense

[01:01:46] so because of David Peach he primarily yeah it was the best of them as sure that's so cool

[01:01:52] and it shows it shows the impact the players can have I mentioned my earlbs down on the ground

[01:01:57] on the weekend and he's he's a fan because of me but he's not like a die hard yet he doesn't

[01:02:04] watch the whole game on TV because they're treated as a young fellow but you know if you're

[01:02:09] asking now he's a shark span but he had this experience on the weekend where the membership

[01:02:13] they'll add us onto the field for the warm up you get the high five the players

[01:02:19] and he got that closeness to them that kind of special treatment and I'm only saying that

[01:02:24] because you kind of got that from David Peach he and I don't get me wrong David Peach he is nice

[01:02:28] to everyone he's just a nice human he's got that infectious kind of personality but you had

[01:02:34] that experience with him which not a lot of people have and that turned you you know my son

[01:02:41] high five to be Rudolph camera kinnis comes to his school he has that connection and that's

[01:02:46] kind of what it's about it's almost going back to our podcast story about why we do things

[01:02:50] while we talk while we create it's the same thing it's that personal connection be it like I

[01:02:54] like this current's good now like we all we've all got a source spot for Niko like yep the

[01:02:59] work he does off field and seems like a genuinely kind of guy and like what a talent but I really

[01:03:05] like with this squad I really resonate with Ronnie like you know it's such good work off the

[01:03:09] field but on the field he's a man as you'd love to get in people's faces and I love that

[01:03:13] of that in talent you know he's a specialist in the air and like so I'm really enjoying watching

[01:03:18] what Ronnie's been able to do this year and young kaleerah what it yeah what a find and for him to be

[01:03:24] like a stats based lord like in super coach like he's he's they call it base stats like tackle

[01:03:31] but you're tackles and the work he does off the ball as well like it's impressive and not you

[01:03:38] know say he's superior to other sharkies when I was one of them that I mean we saw on the weekend

[01:03:43] Mitch and I am a huge and as I'm sure you asked you for telecuthing but we saw the difference in

[01:03:50] fence with telecuthing there and with hero there and there's no shaming saying that they're two

[01:03:55] different bodies like they moved differently a telecuthing had a great game but he had two defensive

[01:04:00] lapses and one costus the other one almost costus and he's done a long one like obviously in

[01:04:06] defensive laps there's more than one guy at fault but would love to have played you know fantasy

[01:04:11] rugby league on my PlayStation with kaleerah there and see what he would have done. What do you

[01:04:20] want me signed him up for a few years just on Ronaldo doesn't lot of charity work off the field

[01:04:26] that you know about and then you don't know about and so do a lot of the guys and the

[01:04:30] annual girls as well do it at the moment under 50 and again it's not a slight on John Morris or

[01:04:37] Shane Flanagan or anyone else at the moment under Craig Fitzgibbon he has I would say almost

[01:04:42] the perfect combination in players who have got a lot of talent someone will add to you like

[01:04:49] off the field certainly not saints but when it comes to the community stuff man they're all in

[01:04:56] like they're all in. I dig that and what we're talking sharkies I mean how about the women 4

[01:05:01] from 4 and I'm really going all seven I really I was asked my friend who met me there came

[01:05:09] he said who's your favorite women's play and I said it's got to be Captain Olson Tiana like

[01:05:14] what a talent plus like her analysis on Fox League she's got a really good 40 brain so

[01:05:21] yeah she saw it as a defense in the sentence there and I know she's played it with a wing too but

[01:05:27] not really enjoying what the women's are doing and I've been finding myself more invested

[01:05:31] from doing the the Bundy mixer as well and for those who run away it's kind of like a super coach

[01:05:37] you pick the best three male and female plays or you think will score the highest and basically

[01:05:42] it's making me watch more and really enjoying what they've put up you know they beat last

[01:05:47] years premiums and 4 before they're firing and then you know it's nothing but exciting so

[01:05:53] good on it like I'm really enjoying the 40 this year and that club is absolutely

[01:05:59] killing it and off the field on the field and yeah I mean the NRLW story is almost the biggest

[01:06:05] story it's not as high profile the moment but it'll get there particularly if they can

[01:06:11] second year which is a lot of pressure but they're 4 and no which is a great start the crowds

[01:06:16] getting bigger I work on it at Fox the ratings are huge and especially comparatively to other

[01:06:22] sports that we in other stations cover the NRLW is flying it'll only get bigger and better

[01:06:29] and the quality is not surprisingly really really good and with the shark's team you know last

[01:06:34] year they kind of had a lot of expectations on them I think from the fan point of view we waited

[01:06:39] long for a team we finally got one it was a really good roster it didn't quite click there were

[01:06:45] injuries etc but this year even with injuries you can tell they've bonded off the field as

[01:06:54] as colleagues as players as friends and on the field that's clicking as well with that second year

[01:06:59] experience and they're a great team to watch they show a lot of heart they realistically could have

[01:07:06] a bunch of those four games but they they dug in and as you say with a great captain

[01:07:13] on the field but also a bunch you know it's on a guard as a superstar on the field there's a whole

[01:07:18] list of them and again he talking about people who do great work in the community which people

[01:07:24] hear about and some you don't hear about just for different reasons but that you have a club

[01:07:29] is getting pretty good at them I'm not meant to it's you know we get I told you we get mail on the

[01:07:34] cast and and I'd say probably 75% is positive 25% is not which is fine but sometimes after a

[01:07:42] mind people that I co-vlost two games in a row or we've lost our playmaker but you know we're still

[01:07:49] on the top four we're still competing the inner of diabetes going well like just if whatever

[01:07:55] different circumstances you have throughout the year after a mind people that we're actually doing

[01:07:59] what better than most teams you know we've been chosen to get a vagus we we have sponsorship we

[01:08:05] have money for not the first time but we're at the financial the most successful we've been

[01:08:10] the bean we're secure of the fields all that kind of stuff points to a really successful time now

[01:08:17] I understand people want the W's I want the W's you want the W's they're mostly coming I

[01:08:22] understand people get frustrated when they don't I'm happy to read out the mail and it is not

[01:08:27] happy but I think sometimes people are so in society as well just so kind of after that quick

[01:08:33] fix they're after the short attention span we lost with their thought we must be going crap

[01:08:38] it's not always the case and I think that I was a really good example this year of an overall

[01:08:43] successful season but still not coming by then forth about fourth is still great we're not always

[01:08:50] in the headlines we're not necessarily selling out every game etc etc but it's still a successful

[01:08:54] season and especially compared to other clubs so I think that sometimes is fans and we do it

[01:09:02] I do it you do it we kind of lose our proverbial every now and then but at the moment man

[01:09:08] I personally don't have a lot of complain about no and you talk about you know that whole proverb

[01:09:14] blind side in this and gets you off it's just passion you know you love your club as much as we do

[01:09:19] absolutely but yeah you're right like there's no you know there's no off-field issues or there's no

[01:09:27] I'm been there was the one with Kindel that you know it's been dealt with of course

[01:09:30] but it's not a pattern is what you say no yeah it's not consistent like it doesn't seem to be like

[01:09:35] you know you could look at so the eels or the or the rabbits like you know getting rid of their

[01:09:41] coaches all this there's trouble with you know some players not having to train the same as others or

[01:09:46] whatever it is like the results on the field speak for themselves yeah yeah I mean Paris

[01:09:52] Runner possibly Runner for a spoon yeah I honestly I think yeah it's also something else right like

[01:10:00] they're clearing out getting into coach it's something has gone on there we've got a coach

[01:10:04] signed until I'm making this up but it's something like 2027 28 we've got a half back sign until

[01:10:11] 2021 it's stability you know yeah and it's great you two best things that you need is a coach

[01:10:17] and a half back and we've got them and they're pretty good ones at the moment they're not perfect

[01:10:20] they're still a long way to go in the youngest careers so yeah this stability there though which is great

[01:10:27] yeah another thing you're well talking about like legacy and the longevity of the club

[01:10:32] I mean 50s dad was a shark scoges too like it he was pretty cool like a lot of people

[01:10:37] I know your show would know that but a lot of people may not be aware that yeah second generation

[01:10:42] head coach is pretty good and even now he made his his market the roosters obviously incredible career

[01:10:47] playing career 50 he did his time and just like Jason Rolls he did his time like as an assistant coach for

[01:10:54] a long period and I do wish Rolls the older best in there and they hope you guys well and

[01:10:58] I think you are on the uptick and that's why I'm a fan of well I'll continue to be a fan as long as

[01:11:04] I don't know how I do I like sharks just yeah they get community they're playing good for Roll

[01:11:09] they seem like a good group and yeah I'll get nothing bit respectful the way they go on at the moment

[01:11:14] When I heard that Fitzgibbon was coming the first thing I thought about it wasn't that he had this

[01:11:19] great reputation that he was a great player it was the fact that he's dad coached and he coached when

[01:11:23] I started getting into the team and that was a very big pivotal change for me in my life I started

[01:11:28] taking a pretty little more seriously going to the games etc when his dad was coach and

[01:11:33] he had not had any access to Craig in the first two seasons but the start of this season I got

[01:11:41] about an hour with him and there's an interview and you're talking about interviews before

[01:11:44] Craig Fitzgibbon's one of my favorite interviews because it took so long to get to him

[01:11:48] and when I got to him he was just a legend but we spoke for half an hour on air then half an hour off

[01:11:53] and he completely gets what we're doing he's so passionate and I asked him straight up I said

[01:11:58] I want to talk about your childhood stuff I don't want to talk about losing finals or whatever

[01:12:02] I want to talk about you and your dad and being a ballboy and I know that doesn't necessarily

[01:12:07] we need premierships but that is such a great thing to have a guy come to your club who's

[01:12:13] dad coached there but also Craig is obviously very qualified to be in his role he got the role

[01:12:19] because he's a great coach not because he's dad was there but the big connection is just huge again

[01:12:24] we're talking about connection and telling stories like Craig Fitzgibbon cares a lot about this club

[01:12:30] and it's because he gets paid a lot it's because he puts in a lot of time but he also has that

[01:12:35] history with the club and yeah there was a big chunk of him being a rooster he was also a dirty dragon

[01:12:40] for couple years as a child as a teen who's all around the sharks club and then he comes back I don't know

[01:12:47] 30 years later whatever it is 40 years later 30 years later and he's enchanted the club I love that

[01:12:53] stuff match I love it let's go down legacy and premiership renewal over and I hope so

[01:12:59] oh you never know they might surprise us all and go straight to the big dance

[01:13:03] have you all fun? good fun I could talk this for days with you

[01:13:07] me too man and I hope we get a chance to make some time in future but yeah this has been awesome

[01:13:13] channel really enjoyed this thank you match me too and now we've done across

[01:13:18] collaboration sort of things so I'll yeah shout out to where do we find your podcast we know

[01:13:23] where to find your music or put links to that but where do we come from where do we come from

[01:13:27] you know we're on app all around Spotify where I'm pretty much every podcast happened this year

[01:13:32] we've started putting things on YouTube so things like this the audio will be on the YouTube but

[01:13:36] we also do video pods when we can when when we when we have that time and that that technology

[01:13:43] like today we haven't done that but there's also a lot more video content this year so yeah

[01:13:49] definitely on YouTube and it's all just at shark cast part if you look up shark cast part of your

[01:13:53] mind is and also on all the socials at shark cast part will definitely find your on all the

[01:13:58] socials as well so we'd love to have you and your listeners join our world it's a lot of fun

[01:14:03] I have to ask you one thing before you go tell me about favorite music bands artists tell me about

[01:14:09] music um it's hard to know things down to one favorite but one consistent band of always enjoyed

[01:14:16] of the food fighters uh that girl the block is just a living legend and I'm just ready to

[01:14:22] biography the story teller which is unreal and some of the stories that go ahead is amazing locally

[01:14:27] my two favorite Australian bands uh the jizzabills and who's sicker which are a newcastle two

[01:14:34] feasts okay and the jizzabills are a new town based so you know yeah all they were used to be

[01:14:39] I mean highly managed to listen solo stuff now she's a lead singer but they were at they started

[01:14:44] there seeing in Sydney and I've been lucky enough to have Haley and Heather from the jizzabills

[01:14:49] on my show and like the reason I say that is because their story is awesome and the music

[01:14:53] is great and yeah the cool Sunday afternoon chill vibes some of it's electronic or some

[01:14:59] of it's classic piano some of it's rock and but music or every similar earl like me being a

[01:15:06] newy boy this is the fan name is it to be the lyrics of great that very chill vibes and you know

[01:15:12] people either food is the food so yeah you know you know I connect again food fighters you know I

[01:15:19] really like them I see the most times when they come out but my connection is within the vines

[01:15:24] I don't I'm old enough as a young person to have gone and seen the vines are the one they're

[01:15:28] only two are here as at the first be there under age change my life so they grow a lot of

[01:15:35] the busico I don't know I'm gonna go check them out jizzabills one of my best friends cousin is Sam

[01:15:41] from the jizzabills. I was at one of their first shows it was that spectrum in Darlinghurst

[01:15:51] they were first on and at that point early on they blew my mind and I've followed the career

[01:15:56] ever since because of that connection and I know Sam on a hey how you doing basis and Heather as well

[01:16:03] so absolutely love those guys I'm so glad to get him a shout out awesome yeah Heather was going

[01:16:08] off it was just got her on just after she released the first like because she's classically trained

[01:16:13] and has spent a lot of time playing piano and she released the solo piano album that she recorded

[01:16:19] and then if your lens up in I think it was either Norway or Finland putster perspective on a

[01:16:25] classical piano album and for the most part yeah like it's really enjoy what they've been able to do

[01:16:31] so far and shout out to them they're incredibly talented and hailys solo careers is going

[01:16:38] to be gangbusters as well so good time to be in the oldy music scene being you know a consumer

[01:16:43] or okay playing as well so yeah yeah hey thanks for having me Mitch a really im glad we

[01:16:50] connected today and it's been a long time coming I really apologize about the weight but I've had

[01:16:53] a ball man so thank you so much life happens mate that's all good and yeah thank you and

[01:16:58] he's still listening to this whether a shark's cast fan or a lots of Mitch fan thanks for

[01:17:03] your hand no catches on the next one