Victory Monday! Catching Up With Kieran Over Coffee About Cronulla

[00:00:00] Hello, hello, hello. Welcome to SharkCast Podcast, dedicated to the greatest sportsmen

[00:00:35] in the world. The mighty Cronulla Southland Sharks. Always touch the wrong side.

[00:00:40] Kieran, oh it's all happening. Gary Dover is calling me. Hey Gary I can't talk, I'm doing

[00:00:45] a podcast. I'll put you on speaker. Say hello to SharkCast World.

[00:00:49] Hello SharkCast World, I'm so sorry for interrupting the podcast recording.

[00:00:54] We literally just hit record like we're live. Say hello to Kieran.

[00:00:57] Hello Kieran, how's your coffee?

[00:01:00] Mate my coffee is outstanding, thank you for asking.

[00:01:03] I just held up a microphone, Gary to you, which you couldn't hear. This is going awesome.

[00:01:10] How are you Gary?

[00:01:11] I'm great this morning actually, thank you for asking.

[00:01:14] Alright, up up Cronulla, can I call you back?

[00:01:16] You can, whenever you're free I'll speak to you soon.

[00:01:18] Ok keep the club running alright?

[00:01:19] Absolutely, bye.

[00:01:20] Ok bye. Well that was unplanned everyone. Welcome to SharkCast Podcast, dedicated

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[00:01:50] didn't get through a few episodes during the week, but that's how things

[00:01:53] go sometimes and we're back here for a catch-up with Kieran, a bit of a

[00:01:57] review of the game from yesterday as well. Good morning my friend, how are you?

[00:02:01] I'm good mate, I'm good. We made it through yesterday, there were some times

[00:02:04] when I was looking at the window and just looking at that rain thinking

[00:02:08] how is this all going to play out driving past Shark Park in the morning.

[00:02:11] I think I drove past probably around midday and the golf course across

[00:02:16] the road was not looking too healthy and I thought this doesn't look too

[00:02:20] good and I saw the videos and photos that were going around on social

[00:02:23] media so actually at the ground it wasn't too bad was it? You really

[00:02:26] wouldn't know that there was any rain before and during the game it

[00:02:29] didn't really rain until we had to walk out then it just started bucketing down.

[00:02:32] Yeah, without sort of putting shade on anyone I thought it was a bit

[00:02:38] dramatic the whole we're under flood like they were under flood in the

[00:02:41] morning they got it sorted no one was really put out and we went on with

[00:02:45] a competent win against the Dragons. We only got wet as you said when we

[00:02:50] walked out which was very Shark Park but a fun time up in the upper

[00:02:56] area. I'm T3T, you myself T.Mortimer from Fins Up podcasts the lining. We stayed nice and dry but

[00:03:04] we were a little bit nervous watching that game nervous only because we

[00:03:06] didn't want to lose that derby I never really thought we're gonna

[00:03:09] lose it but always good to be ahead of them rather than behind but behind

[00:03:15] for about 10 minutes into the first half start of the second so never

[00:03:19] really troubled us though I didn't think it was one of those games

[00:03:22] that Shane Flanagan loves he brought us down to that gutter street fight level

[00:03:28] we were always gonna win the street fight but that's what it became the

[00:03:33] referee just couldn't stop waving his hand. I thought it was a pretty good

[00:03:37] warm-up for the weeks coming ahead which we'll get into. What were your

[00:03:41] thoughts on the game Kieran? It was like you said a classic Shane Flanagan

[00:03:46] style game right stop starts in lots of the eagle you know Kyle was into

[00:03:51] Nico early on one of those kicks and pushing and shoving and they really

[00:03:55] set sewer after Nico in that first little bit too. It was that first half

[00:03:59] was just kind of yeah it was a bit tough to watch because there was so

[00:04:03] many penalties and you know six against and a lot of them seemed to

[00:04:06] happen to the back end of the tackle count too which just just

[00:04:09] absolutely killed us. The Dragons didn't throw a whole lot at the

[00:04:12] Sharks obviously they got those two tries on the same corner but other

[00:04:17] than that it's pretty drab sort of game and it really did remind me of watching

[00:04:22] those Sharks teams in the early 2010s where you know that the Sharks would

[00:04:26] win maybe 14 to 12 or something like that and that's the style of game

[00:04:29] that Shane tried to get the Dragons to play and just didn't have the

[00:04:32] car already get it done versus our guys. Yeah it wasn't a memorable

[00:04:35] derby by any means not a classic I don't really know what I'll take away

[00:04:39] from it to be honest aside from maybe Flanagan's return to Shark Park

[00:04:43] but not much else really happened I mean there's stuff to take away for

[00:04:47] the next week for the Sharks but as far as looking back in time in years to

[00:04:50] come it was a rainy derby. Yeah and I mean it was a sellout officially but I

[00:04:56] think it was just over 9,000 fans actually turned up so yeah there's a

[00:05:00] little bit of a weird atmosphere I mean there was use the backline guy

[00:05:04] in the upper AT stand who just did not stop yelling all game but other

[00:05:07] than that was a kind of a weird vibe but it wasn't really rocking like

[00:05:11] some of those Derbies usually do yeah it did seem to be a little less

[00:05:15] Dragons fans than normal I don't know if that's just because of where they're

[00:05:19] currently sitting at the moment or maybe the weather but it just seemed to

[00:05:23] be kind of a little bit more flat but again the weather really did play a

[00:05:27] role I think in the whole atmosphere and things like that I guess my

[00:05:30] takeaway from this game looking back will be kind of the use of Siffer off

[00:05:36] the bench he played a little bit longer as a one stint opposed to the

[00:05:40] two stints that he normally does but other than that there was

[00:05:44] something really interesting besides actually Tommy getting a try for the

[00:05:47] third week in a row which is absolutely impossible and I wonder what the odds

[00:05:51] would have been if you backed Kofusi and Hazelton to get two tries for us

[00:05:55] I think you probably know what the odds were I don't know actually

[00:05:59] because they were the two guys but I thought a middle was gonna go over

[00:06:02] I went KM McKinnis against my it would have been around 40 bucks at

[00:06:08] least easily and again that was Kofusi's first try for the Sharks

[00:06:12] Well if you went first and last well that's gangbusters

[00:06:16] Yeah mate, maybe we should actually put some more thought into this and maybe

[00:06:20] we won't have to work anymore we could just be successful punters

[00:06:23] As opposed to us in the ET stand a minute out from them running out trying to get internet going

[00:06:27] oh I want to put money on this guy

[00:06:30] Yeah and again I wish that the internet didn't work because none of my bets hit

[00:06:34] and I don't think I've hit a bet all season so if anyone ever wants to

[00:06:36] get some gambling advice I'm definitely not your man

[00:06:39] Yeah we're just mucking around we don't like gambling at all

[00:06:41] gambling is bad for you

[00:06:43] Sharks winning 20 points to 10

[00:06:45] Let's look at some of these stats Kieran

[00:06:48] I thought we completed pretty good in a game that was slippery and

[00:06:53] a little bit muddy and that kind of stuff

[00:06:55] 40 from 47 so that's not too bad

[00:06:58] had 7 line breaks to 3

[00:07:00] we missed 29 tackles to their 43

[00:07:03] we had 8 penalties to their 6

[00:07:06] so a bunch of restarts in there as well of course

[00:07:09] which I think we had more of than what they did giving away

[00:07:13] Let's talk about the ref I never talk about refs on this show but

[00:07:16] I thought it was just way too stop start for a muddy wet wintery match and

[00:07:23] some of the 6 agains I would probably dispute looking at the replay also watching live

[00:07:29] some of them fair enough

[00:07:31] but there were ones where for both teams the player would just sort of slip

[00:07:34] or the attacking player would slip or he would stumble getting up and he'd just wave his hand

[00:07:39] I mean they scored off the back of some of those

[00:07:42] I just didn't think we were that undisciplined yesterday looking at what went down

[00:07:47] I don't know what other people think about that but

[00:07:50] I thought that kind of had an impact on the game

[00:07:52] I'll tell you what I'm over as well Kieran

[00:07:53] I know they can come in handy

[00:07:55] The captain's challenge man what's going on there

[00:07:58] That is my most hated rule besides the try situation

[00:08:02] When they score a try and you gotta wait for try confirmed

[00:08:04] those two things absolutely do my head in

[00:08:06] To your point earlier about the refereeing there were some really weird ones

[00:08:10] like Wilton when he came through and it looked like his shins grazed

[00:08:14] the shoulder of Jack Bird and they got a penalty for high contact

[00:08:18] where on the replay when I watched it it looked like it didn't even connect

[00:08:21] and again I don't have to say how that's a penalty

[00:08:24] The other one I thought was a bit strange was the hero getting the ball knocked out

[00:08:28] the ball bounces backwards picked up by a shark and that's a knock-on

[00:08:31] So there was just some really weird ones

[00:08:32] and again it would have been nice to have a challenge to use on that one

[00:08:35] Obviously we wasted that one on the siffer no try

[00:08:39] Again maybe that should have been sent up in the first instance

[00:08:42] but yeah to your point it was just such a stop-start game

[00:08:46] drab conditions two teams that really just wanted to wrestle

[00:08:50] and not play exciting football

[00:08:53] and I thought there'd be more points scored even with the weather

[00:08:55] Yeah

[00:08:56] There was a game a few years ago versus the Dragons down in Wollongong

[00:08:59] and that was kind of Nico's little statement game

[00:09:01] Yeah

[00:09:02] And it was wet and the Sharks just threw it around

[00:09:04] and blew the Dragons off the park and kind of set up that year

[00:09:07] and I thought we might be in for one of those sort of afternoons

[00:09:09] but I think that was their grand final right

[00:09:12] like they were super up for it the Dragons

[00:09:14] It was a really tough game of football

[00:09:16] and yeah it's good that that's done

[00:09:18] and now we get to the fun block of the season

[00:09:20] Yeah it's going to be good

[00:09:21] Just on that last point I'm all for coaches challenges

[00:09:25] I know you got to set your tech up a little bit differently

[00:09:28] Give the coach one each

[00:09:29] They've got a TV in front of them

[00:09:30] They can make a call within 20 seconds

[00:09:33] The players, sorry

[00:09:34] They're too influenced by the heat of the moment

[00:09:37] of what's going on in the field

[00:09:38] and distracted and it's just

[00:09:41] I'm not a fan of that

[00:09:42] Anyway we move on

[00:09:43] That's an interesting conversation

[00:09:44] Who were your standouts yesterday?

[00:09:46] I really liked Atkinson

[00:09:48] I thought some of his defence was just unreal

[00:09:52] Some of those last-ditch efforts

[00:09:53] where it looked like a Dragon was about to go through the line

[00:09:55] and he would just hold on or get the guy to the ground

[00:09:58] I thought was unreal

[00:09:59] And the other guy who I thought was really good

[00:10:02] was both of the setters actually

[00:10:03] Jesse and Kayleigh were unreal

[00:10:06] I saw something that McGuire has reached out to Rabian

[00:10:09] and said that he's a chance for Origen

[00:10:11] and Jesse played like he wanted to make that team

[00:10:14] because some of his carries are out of trouble

[00:10:16] We weren't getting that same sort of impact

[00:10:18] that we normally get from Catoa

[00:10:19] and Ronnie coming in about back end

[00:10:21] and there was a couple of sets there

[00:10:22] where Rabian just took the ball

[00:10:24] just to give it to me

[00:10:25] and really got that quick play of the ball

[00:10:27] and that Blake was able to run

[00:10:29] So I think those three were probably my three two ones

[00:10:33] Alright we are back

[00:10:35] We have had technical difficulties

[00:10:37] I blame Gary Dover for calling in

[00:10:40] No, just the weather has affected this broadcast

[00:10:43] but we are back as far as I know

[00:10:46] Kieran, I don't know what we were talking about

[00:10:47] Something to do with the Sharks being awesome

[00:10:49] Being first

[00:10:51] Overall a strong performance from the Sharks

[00:10:53] I thought it was a competent performance

[00:10:55] but I could see why Fitzie would be unhappy

[00:10:56] with some of what went on

[00:10:59] He was right behind us as per usual

[00:11:01] Didn't look overly happy about a lot of things

[00:11:04] and I think that they can correct a lot of things

[00:11:06] I think we might have been talking about Dan Atkinson

[00:11:09] He was super strong in defence as we were discussing

[00:11:13] I love his running game too

[00:11:14] I think that it's going to get better each week

[00:11:17] with him man

[00:11:18] And I do think Trindle's the answer

[00:11:20] but these fellas are pretty good in between

[00:11:23] His style of play I think also really lends itself

[00:11:26] to being a fullback as well

[00:11:28] He has that real bouncy style

[00:11:30] It's kind of like at times where you do have a second fullback

[00:11:33] that is completely different in a style to Will Kennedy

[00:11:36] So again, Nico's had a lot of success

[00:11:39] with Matt Moylan in the past in attack

[00:11:42] So again, it's a bit of work for Nico

[00:11:44] to get used to a completely different style of number six

[00:11:47] but it seems to be working at the moment

[00:11:49] And again, it's just good to have that back up

[00:11:51] It's good to have that depth

[00:11:53] You've still got Dykes as well

[00:11:54] He's in the lower grades plugging away

[00:11:55] trying to get match fitness back under his belt

[00:11:57] So yeah, it's exciting times

[00:12:00] One of my work buddies

[00:12:01] a few of us actually were talking on our group channel

[00:12:04] and you know, it works like you tend to razz each other

[00:12:07] And my thing is the boys know that I'm somewhat close

[00:12:11] to the club with the podcast

[00:12:13] And I have come into this habit over the last

[00:12:15] sort of four or five years of telling everyone

[00:12:17] how nice certain players are

[00:12:20] So for example, I'd be like, oh, you know

[00:12:22] Chad's just the nicest guy, you know

[00:12:23] and whoever, super nice guy

[00:12:26] And so now whenever I start talking about a sharks player

[00:12:30] they always say, oh, nice guy

[00:12:32] You know, I'm like, yeah

[00:12:33] actually they're all quite nice at the moment

[00:12:34] Yesterday I was talking about

[00:12:37] I think it was Kyle Eero

[00:12:38] and I went, I'm super happy with how he's going

[00:12:41] yada, yada, yada

[00:12:42] The razzing started like, oh, is he a nice guy?

[00:12:44] And I said, I don't know, I've never met him

[00:12:46] but someone then said to me

[00:12:47] is there anyone in your team who you don't like

[00:12:50] from a playing point of view

[00:12:52] And I said, in the top 21, 22 players

[00:12:57] there's no one that really makes me nervous

[00:12:59] when they play

[00:13:00] You know, you probably need to get down

[00:13:01] to like a Mwini Hirati

[00:13:03] but as we always say, man of the match

[00:13:05] in his last game

[00:13:06] So I'm not gonna bag him out either

[00:13:08] The talent and depth is unbelievable

[00:13:12] because you keep Royce Hunt out of the team

[00:13:15] He's a first grader

[00:13:16] So where we're at now is super healthy

[00:13:19] Trindle on the bench, so to speak

[00:13:22] Atkinson comes in, does a job

[00:13:24] I imagine when Trindle's ready

[00:13:26] they switch, hopefully Trindle does the job

[00:13:28] You mentioned Remian playing rep footy

[00:13:30] So we're gonna need some troops

[00:13:33] And I just love where we're at, Kieran

[00:13:35] Like I love the depth of this team

[00:13:37] Hazelton and Caffuzzi are now our starters

[00:13:40] We would never have picked that

[00:13:41] at the start of the year

[00:13:42] Yeah, I definitely would not have picked Hazelton

[00:13:45] to be a starter

[00:13:46] When I looked at our Ross Stein

[00:13:48] If I was to say, pick where I think

[00:13:51] that we would have been

[00:13:53] with the injuries that we had in the middle part

[00:13:55] of the start of the season

[00:13:57] It's so far removed right now where we are

[00:14:00] because two first graders

[00:14:03] that are starting front row was in reserve grade

[00:14:05] And there's guys on the bench

[00:14:07] like Hamla Njuele and Toby Rudolph

[00:14:10] It's just a really deep roster at the moment

[00:14:13] There is a couple of spots

[00:14:14] where we're a little bit vulnerable

[00:14:15] I think if there's another injury

[00:14:17] maybe to the halves

[00:14:18] we could be in trouble there

[00:14:20] And I do have questions around the edges

[00:14:25] with the back row

[00:14:26] We saw Ferns do a job there for us

[00:14:29] earlier in the season

[00:14:30] But after that, it's a little bit of a drop off

[00:14:33] in terms of experience and things like that

[00:14:35] But the roster

[00:14:36] But I'm just talking like top 21, 22

[00:14:41] Like there's no one in that team

[00:14:42] every week that they pick

[00:14:44] The full selection where you go, whoa

[00:14:47] If Billy's starting for us every week

[00:14:48] for the next 10, 15 games

[00:14:50] you might go, OK, let's see where he's at

[00:14:53] If Mawini comes in and has to play 10 games

[00:14:55] OK, let's see where he's at

[00:14:57] Not ideal

[00:14:58] But the team that fits his name

[00:15:01] from 1 to 22 every week

[00:15:03] There's no one

[00:15:04] But then you look at a team like Souths

[00:15:06] Just picking on someone

[00:15:07] Souths coming last, easy to pick on

[00:15:09] They bring in their subs

[00:15:10] Ooh, you know

[00:15:12] They're not guys you want playing first grade

[00:15:14] at this point in their career

[00:15:16] Whether it's youth, whether it's whatever else

[00:15:18] Pick another team

[00:15:19] Like we're in a good spot

[00:15:21] Yeah, and I talk about this

[00:15:23] It feels like almost every week

[00:15:24] But it's the time that they've spent together

[00:15:27] And we're only bringing in one or two outsiders, right?

[00:15:30] So the squad has that nucleus

[00:15:32] where they've been together for a real long time

[00:15:35] They've worked together

[00:15:36] They understand each other

[00:15:37] Guys like Rameon and Katoa

[00:15:38] have partnered with each other

[00:15:40] for five, six, seven seasons now

[00:15:42] when you go back to the 20s

[00:15:44] So there's a real comfort in that squad

[00:15:47] And it's that next man up mentality, right?

[00:15:49] Where anyone that we bring into this culture

[00:15:52] They're stepping up

[00:15:53] And to your point where you say the top 21

[00:15:55] I would pretty much I'd say the top 27

[00:15:58] There was really probably only about three guys

[00:16:00] in that top 30 at the moment I'd say

[00:16:03] Like a Jade and Beryl

[00:16:04] who we haven't seen in first grade

[00:16:08] Stilentini is that how you say his name correctly

[00:16:10] The young fellow, the young winger

[00:16:11] And probably Michael Gabriel

[00:16:12] Just because again, they're their age

[00:16:14] But everyone else in that squad is super solid

[00:16:18] There are good players that are missing out every week

[00:16:19] And when we were talking with Terry yesterday

[00:16:21] We were sort of saying like when Fennil Blake gets here

[00:16:24] You know, who do you drop out of that 17?

[00:16:26] Because like that 17 that played yesterday

[00:16:29] He's probably one of our better 17s

[00:16:31] If you put Trindal in there for Atkinson, right?

[00:16:33] So there's gonna be some good players missing out

[00:16:36] Assuming that we can keep a guy like Jack Williams

[00:16:38] Who I hope that we do

[00:16:39] Left-sided defense

[00:16:40] Let's talk about it

[00:16:41] Ronnie and Iro

[00:16:43] I thought they were both at fault at times for the two tries

[00:16:47] What were your thoughts, had you seen it?

[00:16:49] It's not something that we've seen a lot of

[00:16:51] I think this season

[00:16:52] And again, it's hard to be critical when you think

[00:16:56] Well, there was only 10 points that were scored against us, right?

[00:16:59] It's not a lot in the whole context

[00:17:00] And when you go back the last two weeks before that

[00:17:02] There was only six points in two games scored against us, right?

[00:17:05] So I don't think it's a huge issue

[00:17:08] But again, it was something that

[00:17:11] The Dragons obviously looked at and obviously went at

[00:17:15] The fact that they were able to pull it off twice

[00:17:17] Is kind of never a good thing

[00:17:18] When it happens once, you kind of say, all right, that

[00:17:20] You kind of cop that

[00:17:21] But when they go back and run almost the same play

[00:17:24] You kind of just go, geez, that's kind of frustrating

[00:17:27] It wasn't Ronnie's best game of the season

[00:17:31] Ronnie's been unreal for us this whole year

[00:17:33] He's one of my favorite players

[00:17:35] He did seem to get caught up a little bit in that personal battle

[00:17:38] Which he's kind of referenced in the past that he's trying to avoid

[00:17:41] So I don't know if that affected his performance at all

[00:17:43] But still a strong game from him

[00:17:46] But yeah, it was

[00:17:49] That same the same

[00:17:50] Basically the same play run and scored twice on

[00:17:53] Is always a frustrating experience

[00:17:55] And I can imagine that's probably why Fitzie was a bit annoyed as well

[00:17:58] I think we need to see the Mulatalo jam in further down the field

[00:18:03] Like you can do it in your own line

[00:18:05] But you better get it right

[00:18:06] Because if you don't, that's what happens

[00:18:07] A lot of space

[00:18:08] He perfected it everywhere else

[00:18:09] Everywhere else he was great with the jam in

[00:18:12] But that those two times

[00:18:14] I thought the second try was a little bit at fault as well

[00:18:17] But they're going great

[00:18:19] I'm not going to hang them out

[00:18:20] Like it was just a small criticism of a game that was pretty good

[00:18:24] They weren't lights out

[00:18:25] They played it probably

[00:18:27] What would you say?

[00:18:27] Like maybe 75%

[00:18:29] Yeah, and it was one of those things where I'd say that it was just

[00:18:32] It was it was a downward game

[00:18:35] It was the condition to lend itself to it

[00:18:37] It was a physical game

[00:18:39] Lots of niggle

[00:18:40] And I saw Ken McInnis was talking about it

[00:18:43] I think in a press conference

[00:18:44] And he was saying it was a really tough and physical game

[00:18:47] And he actually enjoyed it

[00:18:48] Because they found a different way to win

[00:18:50] Compared to the last few weeks

[00:18:51] Where they've been kind of blowing teams off the park

[00:18:54] So that it wasn't an easy game for the sharks

[00:18:57] It was probably just a good warm up

[00:18:59] What's ahead the next couple of weeks

[00:19:01] Let's talk about that press conference

[00:19:02] In the next couple of weeks

[00:19:04] Fitzie shot it down

[00:19:07] He shot it down man

[00:19:09] The journalist

[00:19:10] Hey, I'm not bagging journalists on this show

[00:19:13] Did you notice one journalist in that press conference for both teams

[00:19:16] Really took over the press conference

[00:19:20] I don't know who it was

[00:19:20] I didn't recognize the voice

[00:19:22] And I get the feeling he wasn't a regular view of rugby league

[00:19:25] With some of those questions

[00:19:27] I'll just leave it at that

[00:19:28] Go look for yourself

[00:19:29] Hopefully he's not a friend of the show or anything

[00:19:31] But he was asked about

[00:19:33] Fitzgibbon was asked about the upcoming three to four weeks

[00:19:36] And he said straight away

[00:19:38] It's one game

[00:19:39] We're playing Melbourne

[00:19:40] He said we're not playing three or four games

[00:19:42] We're playing Melbourne

[00:19:43] That's all we're focused on

[00:19:45] He said he understood the narrative

[00:19:47] That this is where we're at

[00:19:49] Top of the table

[00:19:50] Beating everything except for one team

[00:19:52] We've been it before

[00:19:53] We've fallen against other teams

[00:19:55] I love the way he handled it

[00:19:57] And he's right

[00:19:57] He said, to paraphrase

[00:20:00] Our season won't be defined by the next three weeks

[00:20:02] And he's 100% right

[00:20:04] Like, OK, if we lose the next three games

[00:20:06] By 30 points in each game

[00:20:08] Not great

[00:20:09] If we win by 30 in each

[00:20:11] Amazing

[00:20:12] But what does it mean?

[00:20:13] It means six competition points

[00:20:15] Or no competition points

[00:20:16] Or two competition points

[00:20:17] We're one third of the way through the season

[00:20:19] It's a long, massive season

[00:20:21] This isn't the NFL

[00:20:23] This is like almost 30 weeks

[00:20:25] So I'm with him

[00:20:26] And I want everyone just to calm the farm

[00:20:28] A little bit about this blocker

[00:20:30] Usually we do blocks

[00:20:33] I don't think this is a block, man

[00:20:34] I think it's one game at a time

[00:20:35] Yeah

[00:20:36] The way he answered that question was unreal, I thought

[00:20:38] Because again, he really did break it down

[00:20:40] And he sort of said

[00:20:41] You can't judge our Premiership credentials

[00:20:43] After round 12

[00:20:44] Or something along those lines, right?

[00:20:46] Because again

[00:20:46] There are so many more twists and turns

[00:20:48] Throughout the season

[00:20:49] You just saw the Broncos just lost Reynolds

[00:20:52] That's a huge blow to their Premiership chances

[00:20:54] And I think

[00:20:56] How long has he gone for?

[00:20:58] I think I read 12 weeks minimum

[00:21:00] So there's a chance

[00:21:01] I think they said he could be back around round 24 or so

[00:21:05] But that's going to be a big test for them, right?

[00:21:07] And I think that you can almost put a line through them

[00:21:10] Based on that

[00:21:11] But I think the thing with this block

[00:21:13] That we've got coming up

[00:21:14] Is from a fan's perspective

[00:21:17] There's a bit of unrest in the fan base

[00:21:19] Because we really want to beat these teams

[00:21:21] Like the Broncos and the Swarm and Panthers

[00:21:24] But I think what I've message

[00:21:27] That I would say to everybody is

[00:21:29] They don't have to go five from five

[00:21:31] And let's say they go up against the Storm this weekend

[00:21:33] And they don't get the job done

[00:21:35] Like it's okay

[00:21:35] They will come back

[00:21:36] Like there's still many more games in this block of teams

[00:21:40] That we're going to face, right?

[00:21:41] So I just don't want people to

[00:21:44] Put everything on this Storm game

[00:21:46] Because I'm actually confident on this Storm game

[00:21:48] I think that they can put a really good performance in

[00:21:51] And try and right some wrongs

[00:21:52] We haven't had a great record down in Canberra

[00:21:54] And we don't have a great record down in Melbourne, right?

[00:21:56] But we just, we went to Canberra a few weeks ago

[00:21:59] We got the job done

[00:22:00] So I'm actually of the belief that they can

[00:22:02] Put in a strong performance down there

[00:22:04] But if they don't, it's okay

[00:22:06] There will be lessons that will be learnt

[00:22:08] And it's not a sprint

[00:22:10] It's a marathon this season

[00:22:12] And I'm seeing improvement from the Sharks week on week

[00:22:14] And game on game

[00:22:16] So I mean, I'm actually really excited about this block

[00:22:20] Coming up because usually I would get nervous

[00:22:22] And you know, we've talked in the past

[00:22:23] About going down to this Melbourne game

[00:22:26] I've always sort of said, jeez, that's a game

[00:22:27] I just don't want to go down to

[00:22:28] Because it's a long trip home

[00:22:30] And it's not usually a happy hunting place

[00:22:32] But I think these guys are up for it

[00:22:34] I think the players are almost sick of this narrative too

[00:22:36] Because they get hammered with this question

[00:22:38] All the time, right?

[00:22:39] And they're fit

[00:22:41] They've got a good roster at the moment

[00:22:42] I reckon they're going to go down there

[00:22:44] And really try and give it to the Storm

[00:22:46] So two things

[00:22:47] Next year we're locked in for Melbourne

[00:22:50] If it's a Melbourne game, we're locked in

[00:22:52] You and I and whoever else wants to come down

[00:22:54] Too late to organise it this year

[00:22:55] I blame you for that

[00:22:57] As much as you and I saying

[00:22:58] Look, don't worry if we don't win this one

[00:22:59] I think in my heart of hearts we actually can win

[00:23:02] And I think we're either going to win or go close

[00:23:04] They're down a troop or two

[00:23:06] Which is fantastic

[00:23:08] Let's not lie about that

[00:23:09] It's fantastic

[00:23:11] We're pretty healthy

[00:23:12] We're on a good run

[00:23:14] We're confident

[00:23:15] And we've got something to prove

[00:23:16] And I think when we have something to prove lately

[00:23:20] It kind of pans out

[00:23:21] I think we're a massive chance

[00:23:22] Massive

[00:23:24] And the thing that gets me is

[00:23:25] The narrative is always changing

[00:23:27] And they couldn't beat top eight teams

[00:23:30] And then they start beating top eight teams

[00:23:32] And then it's like, well, they can't beat

[00:23:33] These certain three or four teams

[00:23:35] And that's totally true, I get it

[00:23:37] But then it'll be

[00:23:38] Well, Pappenhouse didn't play

[00:23:40] So when you actually go back and look at some of these things

[00:23:43] The narrative is changing all the time

[00:23:45] We're going to play the Broncos

[00:23:47] After Origin, there's going to be no Reynolds

[00:23:49] So again, how's that going to look?

[00:23:51] I think we're playing the Panthers

[00:23:52] We've been playing the Panthers for a couple of weeks too

[00:23:54] So I just wanted to get to see these games

[00:23:57] I think if people are looking into it that deep

[00:24:00] They need to kind of step back

[00:24:02] Like, it doesn't matter about all those little asterixes

[00:24:06] Unless you're really offended by what people say

[00:24:09] We're playing at Shark Park against the Panthers

[00:24:11] That's a rarity

[00:24:13] Yeah

[00:24:14] If we were going to Penrith

[00:24:15] I'd say not impossible

[00:24:17] Yeah

[00:24:18] Down at Shark Park

[00:24:19] We're on, baby

[00:24:20] Let's go

[00:24:21] I think you can look back at the 2016 season

[00:24:23] And say, well, the Storm didn't have Billy Slater

[00:24:25] In the Grand Final, right?

[00:24:26] Like these asterix things just drive me crazy

[00:24:29] But again, this is a team that's playing good football

[00:24:32] I truly believe they've worked on a lot of the issues

[00:24:34] That they had coming into this season

[00:24:36] And I'm seeing improvement all the time

[00:24:38] And I think that they want to test like this

[00:24:40] And I think after the last couple of weeks

[00:24:42] Of two easier wins and our tough local derby

[00:24:46] I think that they're really keen for this game

[00:24:47] To go down to Melbourne and really put up an effort

[00:24:50] Look, I'll be super disappointed

[00:24:52] If they don't put in a good showing

[00:24:53] But there's nothing that is making me feel like

[00:24:56] That's going to happen at the moment

[00:24:57] So I'm backing them and I'm really excited for it

[00:25:00] It's the first time in a long time

[00:25:01] I'm looking forward to Sharks versus Melbourne

[00:25:04] Yeah, and I think that it's going to be

[00:25:05] A pretty big build-up this week

[00:25:06] Like the press will be all over it

[00:25:08] It's game of the round obviously

[00:25:09] Top of the table

[00:25:10] And unfortunately for Sharks fans and the club

[00:25:14] It is a bit of a question mark

[00:25:16] But as Fitzie says, it's one game

[00:25:17] And I'm with him

[00:25:18] It's one game

[00:25:19] Win-lose-draw, life will go on

[00:25:22] Now Kieran, we've got a shorter episode for obvious reasons

[00:25:24] But we can't let you go without

[00:25:26] A random Shark of the Week

[00:25:28] I'm very nervous about this one

[00:25:29] And the emphasis on this word is random, okay?

[00:25:33] Okay

[00:25:34] So for those who haven't seen this before

[00:25:36] I'm going to pick Kieran's brain

[00:25:38] About a random Shark of the Week

[00:25:40] Some hints, some suggestions

[00:25:42] He'll get a few goes and we'll go from there

[00:25:44] Yeah, I'm really nervous about this

[00:25:46] Because I am going to get my pants pulled down

[00:25:48] One of these days

[00:25:49] And I just hope it's not today

[00:25:51] I've been doing absolutely no study for this

[00:25:53] You know, I probably should

[00:25:54] But I find myself at weird times

[00:25:56] Catching thoughts of random Sharks in my head

[00:25:59] Because of what you've done to me with this segment

[00:26:01] So thank you for that

[00:26:02] Born 1972

[00:26:06] That's older than you and I

[00:26:07] 1972

[00:26:09] Junior club

[00:26:11] Paddington-Wallara Tigers

[00:26:14] I'm racking my brain here already

[00:26:17] My sweet spot is really that mid 2000s

[00:26:19] So I'm thinking this is a 90s guy

[00:26:21] It's not all about you, Kieran

[00:26:23] Debut game

[00:26:24] Played for the Sydney Roosters

[00:26:26] Against Cronulla

[00:26:27] Last match of his career

[00:26:29] Played for Cronulla

[00:26:30] Against the Sydney Roosters

[00:26:32] He played 50 NRL games

[00:26:35] He played for a number of clubs

[00:26:38] I'll say he played for four clubs

[00:26:39] Let's not be silly

[00:26:40] He played for four clubs

[00:26:41] 50 NRL games

[00:26:43] First game was for the Roosters against Cronulla

[00:26:46] Last game was for Cronulla

[00:26:48] Against the Roosters

[00:26:49] OK, we've got all that

[00:26:50] Yeah

[00:26:51] I...

[00:26:52] This is a tough one

[00:26:54] There are no years he's throwing me here

[00:26:56] Let's give you some

[00:26:57] We'll get there

[00:26:59] When he played for the Roosters

[00:27:01] His coach was Mark Murray

[00:27:04] Mark Murray

[00:27:05] You've heard of Mark Murray

[00:27:06] He was the coach

[00:27:08] When he played for the Dragons

[00:27:11] When he played for the Dragons

[00:27:13] His coach was

[00:27:15] I believe I'm correctly saying David Waite

[00:27:19] Oh, jeez

[00:27:21] He played for the Rabbit-os

[00:27:23] In the Super League year

[00:27:25] And in 1999

[00:27:28] But he's a shark

[00:27:30] He's a random shark

[00:27:31] He played three games for the Sharks

[00:27:36] In a pretty good era

[00:27:38] I think he's a 2001 sharky

[00:27:40] Is that... Am I in the right spot there?

[00:27:42] That's one of the two years he played for us, yeah

[00:27:46] I'm going to be perfectly honest with you

[00:27:48] And I'm the biggest shark fan in the world

[00:27:50] No one's bigger

[00:27:52] Eh

[00:27:53] Eh

[00:27:56] Three games

[00:27:58] And he was at this for two years

[00:28:01] Mm-hmm

[00:28:02] End of his career

[00:28:03] Oh, yeah, I guess he was a forward

[00:28:07] That would be incorrect

[00:28:09] He's somewhere between one and seven

[00:28:12] Don't you start Googling stuff

[00:28:14] Don't you start Googling stuff

[00:28:16] That's not part of the deal

[00:28:17] Come on, man

[00:28:18] That's what my glasses are for that

[00:28:19] I'm far remember the Sharks roster in 2001

[00:28:23] In our back line

[00:28:24] So there was

[00:28:26] Might have you stumped, huh?

[00:28:26] I think he might have me stumped here

[00:28:28] Because Jason Ferris

[00:28:31] No

[00:28:32] One game in 2002 and 2001

[00:28:35] One game in 2002 and 2001

[00:28:40] Mm-hmm

[00:28:41] Can I have a position?

[00:28:43] He was a half of sort

[00:28:46] Oh

[00:28:48] Yeah, geez

[00:28:50] Again, this has really got me

[00:28:52] Three games for the Sharks

[00:28:53] Three games for the Sharks

[00:28:55] One in 2002 and 2001

[00:28:58] When was his last game?

[00:29:01] I was going to say Paul Green

[00:29:02] But it's definitely not him

[00:29:04] Uh, I'm trying to think who

[00:29:06] He played three games for the Sharks in total

[00:29:08] Stop giving me silly answers

[00:29:09] I know, I know, I know

[00:29:10] But it's just like

[00:29:12] I'm definitely racking the brain on Rooster to Shark

[00:29:15] And that's the hard one for me

[00:29:18] Rooster, Dragon, Rabbit, Oshark

[00:29:20] Yeah, in the back line too

[00:29:23] So mate, you've got me today

[00:29:26] In the halves

[00:29:27] You've absolutely got me

[00:29:29] He was a 5'8'

[00:29:30] A 5'8'

[00:29:32] Who I cannot remember

[00:29:33] Geez

[00:29:35] But he played three games in the John Langeira

[00:29:37] So we should respect this gentleman

[00:29:39] It was a great time to be a Sharks fan

[00:29:41] I had a little bit going on in the year 2001

[00:29:44] So I wasn't really watching a lot

[00:29:47] I was very into my wrestling back then

[00:29:50] And now I think I'm going to have to raise the right white flag here mate

[00:29:53] Because I've got absolutely no idea on this one

[00:29:56] What if I give you initials?

[00:29:57] Yep

[00:29:58] Will that help?

[00:29:58] Give me initials

[00:30:01] S for Sam

[00:30:02] M for Mother

[00:30:07] Mate, there's someone listening to this

[00:30:08] There's absolutely screaming at their phone or their laptop right now saying the answer

[00:30:12] Oh yeah

[00:30:13] Because it's not coming to me

[00:30:14] Our friend Craig would be on this

[00:30:16] There's a really good game show on Channel 7 in the afternoons

[00:30:18] I like watching

[00:30:19] You're really just like deflecting

[00:30:21] You're like Shane Flanagan

[00:30:25] No, I don't have it

[00:30:27] You've done me

[00:30:28] I'll give you his first name

[00:30:31] Scott

[00:30:34] And don't say the first thing comes to your mind

[00:30:35] Because it's wrong obviously

[00:30:39] That's 10 years later

[00:30:39] Scott

[00:30:41] Yeah, no, still not coming

[00:30:43] I don't remember any Scots playing for us

[00:30:44] Besides obviously there's a few there

[00:30:46] Random Shark of the Week

[00:30:48] First one to get you

[00:30:50] After three episodes

[00:30:52] The Random Shark of the Week this week was

[00:30:55] Scott Murray

[00:30:57] I have zero memory of Scott Murray mate

[00:31:00] I cannot remember

[00:31:01] If you're watching Scott

[00:31:03] We love you man

[00:31:04] Apologies Scott

[00:31:05] Look

[00:31:06] Three games for the Mighty Sharkies

[00:31:07] I actually don't think I've ever heard of Scott Murray

[00:31:10] You've got me on my dark spirit mate

[00:31:12] My sweet spot the mid 2000s

[00:31:15] And all week I was thinking that you were gonna throw at me

[00:31:19] Toshio

[00:31:20] Toshio Lozano

[00:31:22] Is that his name?

[00:31:23] I love Toshio

[00:31:24] He played one game for us

[00:31:25] Or Vince Mellors was the other one that was in my head

[00:31:27] That I thought I was gonna get today

[00:31:29] But

[00:31:30] Try Scoring Machine

[00:31:31] You've absolutely got me a beauty with that one

[00:31:32] Because

[00:31:33] I'm glad

[00:31:34] I thought we'd go years

[00:31:35] And research him

[00:31:36] I thought we'd go years without doing this

[00:31:38] Nah

[00:31:38] Scott Murray

[00:31:39] That's my weakness and I didn't want to reveal it

[00:31:42] That probably

[00:31:43] Anything before 2002

[00:31:46] Is really where you'll get me

[00:31:48] But after 2002 I've got a pretty good memory

[00:31:50] But

[00:31:51] There was a few years there

[00:31:52] Especially around like 09

[00:31:54] Where we just

[00:31:55] Were using some absolutely random players

[00:31:57] That played that one game

[00:31:58] Like

[00:31:59] Michael Wayman's brother played for us for one game

[00:32:02] I couldn't keep just giving you

[00:32:04] You know the same

[00:32:05] Peak era for you

[00:32:06] I will get back there

[00:32:08] And no I can't go to like

[00:32:09] The 70s or whatever

[00:32:10] You get me a beauty there

[00:32:11] But I thought

[00:32:13] You know this is still in the time frame

[00:32:14] This is in the time frame

[00:32:15] I should have known

[00:32:16] I don't know

[00:32:17] I don't know Scott's work unfortunately

[00:32:18] I don't remember him at all

[00:32:20] And this is not a slide on Scott

[00:32:21] Because obviously he played first grade

[00:32:22] Which is so hard to do

[00:32:23] But yeah

[00:32:24] I was having a complete blank

[00:32:26] On his career

[00:32:27] Unfortunately for me

[00:32:28] Because

[00:32:29] You know I'm only three weeks into this segment

[00:32:31] And I've absolutely let myself and my family down

[00:32:33] So

[00:32:33] I'm gonna need to have a good hard look at myself

[00:32:35] Jump on the internet

[00:32:37] And start researching a little bit

[00:32:38] Doing my homework because

[00:32:40] I'm sure there's a few more curly ones out there for me

[00:32:42] But that was a

[00:32:43] That was a real rib tickler

[00:32:45] Plenty more to come

[00:32:46] Kieran it's been a

[00:32:47] It's been an experience

[00:32:48] It's been a journey

[00:32:49] It's been a journey

[00:32:50] But we got there

[00:32:50] It's been a journey

[00:32:52] Hopefully

[00:32:52] Hopefully everyone's hearing this in one package

[00:32:55] And if they're viewing little things

[00:32:56] Hopefully

[00:32:57] We might just get a few clips out of this

[00:32:59] I don't know if we'll get the whole thing up there

[00:33:00] But

[00:33:01] We'll put the audio up on the YouTube

[00:33:03] Anyway

[00:33:04] Thanks for your time buddy

[00:33:04] Thanks for carrying this episode like you do

[00:33:07] We'll talk to you soon

[00:33:09] Enjoy your week

[00:33:10] Your pre-Melbourne week

[00:33:12] Exciting

[00:33:14] And everyone else thanks for listening

[00:33:15] And apologies about the absence

[00:33:18] Not sure how the week's gonna pan out

[00:33:20] I am struggling

[00:33:21] But that's okay

[00:33:22] Everything's cool

[00:33:23] Enjoy your week

[00:33:24] We'll talk to you as soon as we can

[00:33:25] Let's play the song Kieran

[00:33:27] Because we beat those dirty dragons

[00:33:30] I don't know if we talked enough about beating the dirty dragons

[00:33:32] But we did

[00:33:33] It's always glorious

[00:33:35] We respect Shane Flanagan but

[00:33:37] Don't go opening your mouth boy

[00:33:38] When you can't

[00:33:39] You know

[00:33:39] You can't finish that one

[00:33:40] Marko and you count on this Shane

[00:33:41] We might see you later in the year

[00:33:43] Yeah we'll see you

[00:33:44] We'll see you down in Wollongong

[00:33:45] Cogra or wherever the hell it is

[00:33:47] You choose to play

[00:33:48] This is Shark House Pod

[00:33:49] And we love you

[00:33:51] We'll talk to you soon

[00:33:52] Up Up Cranulla

[00:33:53] Let's go

[00:34:11] Up Up Cranulla

[00:34:15] Name of the sharks big U

[00:34:18] Sharks Sharks forever

[00:34:22] Go out and play without fear

[00:34:26] Now's the time to see good football

[00:34:29] For the sharks are here

[00:34:41] Sharks forever

[00:35:18] We love the sharks big U

[00:35:21] Sharks forever